[Archived] Supporters Trust do we really trust them?

[DE.]

Agree that there should only be one combined group... multiple splinter groups will just confuse people. I no longer have any idea who's who or what's going on.

On a seperate note, disappointed to see you've left the FF Tom. Thought you represented them very well.

[forumquizmaster]

Quote of the year matty. I doff my cap.

I'm looking at all this BRIST/BRAG/FF in the context of the British Army in India. The first are like the Officers who are educated enough to sit out of the firing line and manipulate the footsoldiers to do their bidding, there are the footsoldiers who couldn't run the proverbial in a brewery but are always up and at em alternating between scrapping at close quarters and dodging bullets..... and then there is the Concert Party.

BRFC are about to experience the late 60's and 70's all over again. No one could do anything about it then and no one can do anything about it now. Let it drop and let it go. Despite the fact that as supporters we don't want to pay the going rate to watch Premier League football and are only willing to pay non league admission prices we have been punching way above our weight for so long that the supporters have ridiculously come to expect our position in the Prem as a right. The many who booed a 3-0 victory over Wolves are getting their just rewards. Won't be long before they will be back to supporting one or other of the Mancs will it? Those who have lived long enough have seen it all before.

In a nutshell, this is the reality. And those of us who have attained a certain age have seen it all before. Uncle Jack's millions gave us a couple of decades in the sunshine, for which we will be forever thankful.

[Tom]

On a seperate note, disappointed to see you've left the FF Tom. Thought you represented them very well.

I had a brainwave, I would set up a new group as we need more groups.

You are all welcome to join the BRNP - Blackburn Rovers Neutral Party (not to be confused with the BNP) I'm also considering the name BRFS - Blackburn Rovers Fence Sitters. Together we can do something or other.

Disclaimer: The above is also made up and total nonsense, although we are short on fans groups.

Seriously though there's many great people in the FF doing what they believe for the betterment of the club, I have my own reasons for leaving but it's not right to discuss them, safe to say one of them was this mudslinging stuff that goes on between groups, I decided that's not something I wish to be a part of.

[stuwilky]

What on earth have we become?

Very disappointing to read all this mudslinging.

[K-Hod]

Why don't you all just join together to form one united organisation? Or will too many folk lose their fancy titles?

This sums the matter up for me.

[ABBEY]

WOW nuff said

[deftangel]

Agree that there should only be one combined group... multiple splinter groups will just confuse people. I no longer have any idea who's who or what's going on.

As far as I understood it, the Supporters Trust was to be that one group that everyone had at least said they were going to get behind. Given it's more formal capacity once established, that the genesis of it started in the summer and is something we've tried to do before (e.g. BRISA) it makes perfect sense and is needed now more than ever. It is disappointing to see attempts to see it undermined from people who said they would do otherwise.

[speeeeeeedie]

An apt name!

A year ago we had just the FF plugging away on getting the lager sorted, now we have at last count 4 groups?

It's like watching 4 bald blokes fight over a comb. I doubt the vast majority of the fanbase have the foggiest idea who you all are.

Why don't you all just join together to form one united organisation? Or will too many folk lose their fancy titles?

It reminds me of the Life of Brian bit when Brian introduces himself to the Judean People's Front. If I can find on YouTube I will post it.

All in, nothing will happen until Madame Venky decides.

[woodsybrfc]

I had a brainwave, I would set up a new group as we need more groups.

You are all welcome to join the BRNP - Blackburn Rovers Neutral Party (not to be confused with the BNP) I'm also considering the name BRFS - Blackburn Rovers Fence Sitters. Together we can do something or other.

Disclaimer: The above is also made up and total nonsense, although we are short on fans groups.

Seriously though there's many great people in the FF doing what they believe for the betterment of the club, I have my own reasons for leaving but it's not right to discuss them, safe to say one of them was this mudslinging stuff that goes on between groups, I decided that's not something I wish to be a part of.

maybe its time all groups united, as i see it the only winners in all of this are Venkys as there main intention was to turn fan against fan and its actually working in their favour. what it actually needs is all the community to get behind what all our goal really is and that is to SAVE OUR CLUB i believe if you take Rovers away from Blackburn then as a town it has got nothing to offer, high unemployment does very little to boost the towns image only thing we have to be proud of is brfc and what jack walker achieved now venkys have threatened the legacy that jack left behind for all of us so maybe we all need to get together and stand shoulder to shoulder and say this is enough we will not allow this to happen to our club any longer instead of fighting each other we all know who the enemy really is and thats VENKYS

[Alan75]

An apt name!

It's like watching 4 bald blokes fight over a comb. I doubt the vast majority of the fanbase have the foggiest idea who you all are.

Could you put me in contact with the comb, I want to be his agent.

[he6rt6gr6m]

As far as I understood it, the Supporters Trust was to be that one group that everyone had at least said they were going to get behind. Given it's more formal capacity once established, that the genesis of it started in the summer and is something we've tried to do before (e.g. BRISA) it makes perfect sense and is needed now more than ever. It is disappointing to see attempts to see it undermined from people who said they would do otherwise.

Setting this up has taken time. Time this club is running out of, and people have wanted something doing now, which is where BRAG comes in, in my opinion. And, for what it's worth, they've served their purpose well, bringing attention to the problem with their methods, which some agree with and some don't.

It is sad that this is the path one BRAG representative and another as-yet unnamed accomplice has decided to take. But when all is said and done, the Trust will be officially recognised by a tried and tested Government-backed entity, with strict guidelines to adhere to, and rules to abide by. Why try and derail that? It's almost as if certain people don't want this to succeed...

[perthblue02]

I had a brainwave, I would set up a new group as we need more groups.

You are all welcome to join the BRNP - Blackburn Rovers Neutral Party (not to be confused with the BNP) I'm also considering the name BRFS - Blackburn Rovers Fence Sitters. Together we can do something or other.

Disclaimer: The above is also made up and total nonsense, although we are short on fans groups.

Seriously though there's many great people in the FF doing what they believe for the betterment of the club, I have my own reasons for leaving but it's not right to discuss them, safe to say one of them was this mudslinging stuff that goes on between groups, I decided that's not something I wish to be a part of.

Agree with setting up a new group Tom, but you need to take Blackburn out of the name , why ? Blackburn is politically Blackburn with Darwen, Darwen has a tower, The top of the Darwen tower was recently replaced by WEC, Somebody who is proposing a domesday scenario rescue plan works for WEC, so going by the conspiracy theories any group with the name Blackburn are linked to a takeover by the people who made the tower top and want Rovers relegated , also make sure any members of the group have not been in the same place at the same time or linked by genealogy going back at least to the year 1290.

[woodsybrfc]

Agree with setting up a new group Tom, but you need to take Blackburn out of the name , why ? Blackburn is politically Blackburn with Darwen, Darwen has a tower, The top of the Darwen tower was recently replaced by WEC, Somebody who is proposing a domesday scenario rescue plan works for WEC, so going by the conspiracy theories any group with the name Blackburn are linked to a takeover by the people who made the tower top and want Rovers relegated , also make sure any members of the group have not been in the same place at the same time or linked by genealogy going back at least to the year 1290.

sorry but if you actually think that any rovers supporter wants the club relegated then im afraid you need to stop drinking that australian sheep dip fella, also may be a good idea to stop making personal attacks on a member of a group as in the end comments like yours will really be more damaging when groups really need to be united in the fight against the owners

[Devon Rover]

sorry but if you actually think that any rovers supporter wants the club relegated then im afraid you need to stop drinking that australian sheep dip fella, also may be a good idea to stop making personal attacks on a member of a group as in the end comments like yours will really be more damaging when groups really need to be united in the fight against the owners

Woodsy, I'm pretty sure the post you quoted was a nice bit of satire on the current witch-burning and soap-style drama that some of us are getting involved in!

[woodsybrfc]

Woodsy, I'm pretty sure the post you quoted was a nice bit of satire on the current witch-burning and soap-style drama that some of us are getting involved in!

just think people have actually lost their way, they need to get back in the right direction fighting each other is not the way forward after all isnt brfc the important issue here

[perthblue02]

sorry but if you actually think that any rovers supporter wants the club relegated then im afraid you need to stop drinking that australian sheep dip fella, also may be a good idea to stop making personal attacks on a member of a group as in the end comments like yours will really be more damaging when groups really need to be united in the fight against the owners

Woodsy, I'm pretty sure the post you quoted was a nice bit of satire on the current witch-burning and soap-style drama that some of us are getting involved in!

Woodsybrfc see Devon Rover post , it was not a personal attack on Tom , Unfortunately because of what's gone on over the last couple of weeks the fact that it could have been read as such is worrying.

Never drink the "beer" over here freezing cold lager YUK!

[deftangel]

Setting this up has taken time. Time this club is running out of, and people have wanted something doing now, which is where BRAG comes in, in my opinion. And, for what it's worth, they've served their purpose well, bringing attention to the problem with their methods, which some agree with and some don't.

It is sad that this is the path one BRAG representative and another as-yet unnamed accomplice has decided to take. But when all is said and done, the Trust will be officially recognised by a tried and tested Government-backed entity, with strict guidelines to adhere to, and rules to abide by. Why try and derail that? It's almost as if certain people don't want this to succeed...

I get that BRAG has largely come about because of some dissatisfaction with the Fans Forum approach to date and set up. And, that there has been a need to get people motivated and organised to do something now in the face of the onslaught of Venky's silence. Whilst I see why and how the Fans Forum operates and don't feel particularly inclined to criticise it too heavily to date, the inception of BRAG was a perfectly reasonable course of action for the guys behind it to take.

What I and I suspect many other Rovers fans take issue with is saying one thing with respect to calling for unity and for Rovers fans to unite behind one banner and then actually doing the complete opposite. Even if there was some spurious meeting, with nefarious intentions which was clearly not in the spirit of openness or the best interests of Rovers fans, the way to deal with it is not to leak e-mails and post threads that amount to a willful misrepresentation of what they contain.

If BRAG don't think setting up a government backed supporters trust is a good idea because it will be slow/unwilling to take the action they see as appropriate to deal with Venky's (and that's a charitable interpretation of why all this mud-slinging is going on) then fine. Leave it be and go do your own thing. I can at least have respect for your position then.

[yoda]

Posted Today, 01:24 PM

Mattyblue, on 24 February 2012 - 07:33 AM, said:

Why don't you all just join together to form one united organisation? Or will too many folk lose their fancy titles?

This sums the matter up for me.

+1

BRAVO

[Tom]

I know who I'd ask to do this, the man who's had his finger on the pulse from day one.

Balaji? Maybe Kamy?

[Hughesy]

Oooooh it's all a power struggle to be the fans leader/trust or whatever you want to call it.

FF members, where do I sign up to join??

[Majiball]

Balaji? Maybe Kamy?

Close, but not I'm not sure Kamy would want it. I'd go for the other half of the dynamic duo for that reason and even then he may not want it.

Oooooh it's all a power struggle to be the fans leader/trust or whatever you want to call it.

FF members, where do I sign up to join??

We could have a poll?????

[67splitscreen]

We could have a poll?????

No thanks have you seen hughsey dance.

[ABBEY]

Oooooh it's all a power struggle to be the fans leader/trust or whatever you want to call it.

FF members, where do I sign up to join??

When's Bollywood and ewood being revamped ? I remember you ejaculating in your mouse when the V's took over .... Ooops I meant bollyewood

[AllRoverAsia]

FF, BRAG, BRST, BRIST and doubtless others I'm not aware off - in danger of becoming a case of too many Chiefs and, ironically, not enough Indians.

We all have the same fundamental objective to take our Rovers back and my hope is that the various groups can unite and become a force to be reckoned with and have clout.

However with PL relegation becoming more of a propability by the day the worry is that the current pile of crap than own Rovers will bail out ASAP and sell to the first to offer anything reasonable, that is after selling as many player assets as possible and pocketing the cash. They will not care about who they sell to.

[Pedro]

Where and when are the finals of this popularity contest..and will the winner get a badge, set of keys or something of note to prove their almighty power?