[Archived] Simon-Contractual issues

[Amo]

Well, either there's a contract dispute or Kean's overlooking a very talented player. And if his attitude stinks, why's he even on the bench? Put him in the ressies instead of taking up a space.

Don't know where the criticism comes from. In the few chances he's had, he's looked a useful player on the ball, can draw fouls and has an eye for goal.

[hesfromburn]

He looked good in his first few cameo apperances up until I cant remember which game it was he last started but he started that game and the game completly passed him by and he wasnt putting himself about enough and Kean rightly took him off but since then he hasnt got a sniff, took a while for him to get back on the bench.

Maybe he had an attitude about being taken off so early? (only saying that as there has been paset reports of him when at other clubs with an attitude problem.) But even so having a bad game in his first start surley he should still be given the substitute chances to try prove himself and force his way back into the team, but with Marcus being able to jump into the team so quickly ahead of him it brings up questions.

[Shabani]

Why he was bought in the first place is beyond me

We needed a Right back, a left back, a centre midfielder, another striker, and another centre back and yet he brought in another attacking midfielder.

Absolute madness for a club with very little money

[LeChuck]

Why he was bought in the first place is beyond me

We needed a Right back, a left back, a centre midfielder, another striker, and another centre back and yet he brought in another attacking midfielder.

Absolute madness for a club with very little money

Not sure that's quite fair. We have struggled on the right side of midfield this year, we've tried several different players over the course of the season. I think Pedersen has probably had the longer sustained run there and it's not his best position.

Having said that, I said all summer that any money should have gone on replacing Jermaine Jones and then build from there. That gaping hole in central midfield has troubled us all season.

[alexanders]

Simon is a very technically gifter played - same as Rochina. None of them are fit for a relegation battle. The reason why Formica plays is probably his closing down which I have been very impressed by. Markus Olsson has lot of pace which Simon really doesnt have. He is a fancy-dan.

[LeChuck]

That doesn't really say anything.

Several first-teamers frozen out already this year due to contractual disputes. Vukcevic unable to even buy himself a sub appearance, despite having more pedigree than several other first-teamers. Doesn't sit right to me.

I see where you are coming from, but Roberts and Salgado were completely frozen from the first team and didn't keep secret the fact that appearance money was stopping them making the pitch. We're still not sure about Nelsen, he's barely kicked a ball for Spurs in over a month so it's entirely plausible that he just wasn't fit after his knee injury.

Vukcevic still makes the bench and we haven't heard a sniff of a credible story to back this up. Surely he or his agent would have moaned to the press by now if it were true?

It is very strange, I admit, but I tend to think it is footballing reasons that keep him away from playing. There were rumours that Kean had some players 'forced' upon him this summer - maybe Kean didn't even want Vukcevic here in the first place?

[Mercer]

I see where you are coming from, but Roberts and Salgado were completely frozen from the first team and didn't keep secret the fact that appearance money was stopping them making the pitch. We're still not sure about Nelsen, he's barely kicked a ball for Spurs in over a month so it's entirely plausible that he just wasn't fit after his knee injury.

Vukcevic still makes the bench and we haven't heard a sniff of a credible story to back this up. Surely he or his agent would have moaned to the press by now if it were true?

It is very strange, I admit, but I tend to think it is footballing reasons that keep him away from playing. There were rumours that Kean had some players 'forced' upon him this summer - maybe Kean didn't even want Vukcevic here in the first place?

Two full matches and a second half appearance as a sub !!! Get your facts right.

[LeChuck]

Two full matches and a second half appearance as a sub !!! Get your facts right.

Sorry, I was on about in the Premier League. I never doubted his ability match League One opposition - which is where his two starts came from.

[Kelbo]

I see where you are coming from, but Roberts and Salgado were completely frozen from the first team and didn't keep secret the fact that appearance money was stopping them making the pitch. We're still not sure about Nelsen, he's barely kicked a ball for Spurs in over a month so it's entirely plausible that he just wasn't fit after his knee injury.

Vukcevic still makes the bench and we haven't heard a sniff of a credible story to back this up. Surely he or his agent would have moaned to the press by now if it were true?

It is very strange, I admit, but I tend to think it is footballing reasons that keep him away from playing. There were rumours that Kean had some players 'forced' upon him this summer - maybe Kean didn't even want Vukcevic here in the first place?

Isn't it strange, Kean takes the credit for signing Yak, Jermaine Jones etc, yet all the bad signings, suggests he had players forced on him, what a guy Kean is, doesn't do anything wrong, Rovers lose and the Assistant gets the push, win and Kean gets the credit!! God he cant lose can he?

So who indeed pushed Slew, Ribiero, Anderson, Vukcevic, Orr etc on to Kean?

[Majiball]

Isn't it strange, Kean takes the credit for signing Yak, Jermaine Jones etc, yet all the bad signings, suggests he had players forced on him, what a guy Kean is, doesn't do anything wrong, Rovers lose and the Assistant gets the push, win and Kean gets the credit!! God he cant lose can he?

So who indeed pushed Slew, Ribiero, Anderson, Vukcevic, Orr etc on to Kean?

I thought strength was an attribute that all top managers had to have? Pushed on him my ass.

Kean cannot be sacked, it's most likely in his contract.

[LeChuck]

Isn't it strange, Kean takes the credit for signing Yak, Jermaine Jones etc, yet all the bad signings, suggests he had players forced on him, what a guy Kean is, doesn't do anything wrong, Rovers lose and the Assistant gets the push, win and Kean gets the credit!! God he cant lose can he?

So who indeed pushed Slew, Ribiero, Anderson, Vukcevic, Orr etc on to Kean?

Actually Kean admitted in a LET podcast that Jermaine Jones was signed by Jerome Anderson.

As for the rest...who knows? I'm 100% certain that Ribeiro was not Kean's choice. I don't think it's a coincidence that we have a 'fixer' in Brazil and end up signing an unknown Brazilian player. I imagine Orr was Kean's choice too.

[Majiball]

Actually Kean admitted in a LET podcast that Jermaine Jones was signed by Jerome Anderson.

As for the rest...who knows? I'm 100% certain that Ribeiro was not Kean's choice. I don't think it's a coincidence that we have a 'fixer' in Brazil and end up signing an unknown Brazilian player. I imagine Orr was Kean's choice too.

How long was Riberio on trial before we signed him? Kean had loads of time to voice concerns if he didn't rate him, and yet?

[John]

Think it should be fairly obvious by now that the Riberio signing, and a few others, were not made for football reasons.

Much like the managergial appointment.

[OJRovers]

Actually Kean admitted in a LET podcast that Jermaine Jones was signed by Jerome Anderson.

As for the rest...who knows? I'm 100% certain that Ribeiro was not Kean's choice. I don't think it's a coincidence that we have a 'fixer' in Brazil and end up signing an unknown Brazilian player. I imagine Orr was Kean's choice too.

Cryer has said on Twitter that Vukcevic was 'a surprise' to Kean when he signed. Could be a reason why Kean is not playing him. I certainly think that he deserves a chance, maybe instead of Formica on the right if Hoillet is to be used in the middle.

[alexanders]

Cryer has said on Twitter that Vukcevic was 'a surprise' to Kean when he signed. Could be a reason why Kean is not playing him. I certainly think that he deserves a chance, maybe instead of Formica on the right if Hoillet is to be used in the middle.

He doesnt have the same work rate as Formica. And that work rate is absolute crucial in the relegation battle.

He should play on tuesday though. He loves scoring against Sunderland !

[OJRovers]

He doesnt have the same work rate as Formica. And that work rate is absolute crucial in the relegation battle.

He should play on tuesday though. He loves scoring against Sunderland !

I thought he tracked back well against Spurs, we kept Bale/Lennon quiet for most of the game.

Not seen enough of him to really comment though.

[Kelbo]

How long was Riberio on trial before we signed him? Kean had loads of time to voice concerns if he didn't rate him, and yet?

Kean said he was the new Dennis Irwin

[LeChuck]

Kean said he was the new Dennis Irwin

This is why Kean will never receive any sympathy for the difficult circumstances he manages under.

He champions the bullshit that emanates from Venky's - from "I'm sure we'll be in the Champions League in a few years" to the ridiculous "new Irwin/Smalling/Rooney" remarks.

[Majiball]

Found this quote on the LT quite interewsting:

LIES LIES LIES !!!!

I have heard on good authority that both of these players are in "contractual dispute" with the club ...

They are owed "number of appearances" monies as part of their "Commercially Sensitive Contracts" - not so secret now eh Paul Hunt ...

Rovers refusing to play them as it triggers these payments now and they lose their leverage position of refusing to pay them the monies until end of season ...

KEAN - Formica is not fit enough to lace up Rubens boots !!! ...

KEAN did you know Vukevic was famous in Italy for his quote "I dont really like football - I just play for money" ...

HUNT OUT !!!

KEAN OUT !!!

VENKYS OUT !!!

[LeChuck]

KEAN - Formica is not fit enough to lace up Rubens boots !!! ...

KEAN did you know Vukevic was famous in Italy for his quote "I dont really like football - I just play for money" ...

These two comments make me think they are a know-nothing bellend with too much anger and too little info.

Formica is ten times the footballer that Rochina is.

As for the last comment...Benoit Assou-Ekotto openly says the very same thing, doesn't make him a bad footballer.

[braddock]

Found this quote on the LT quite interewsting:

LIES LIES LIES !!!!

I have heard on good authority that both of these players are in "contractual dispute" with the club ...

They are owed "number of appearances" monies as part of their "Commercially Sensitive Contracts" - not so secret now eh Paul Hunt ...

Rovers refusing to play them as it triggers these payments now and they lose their leverage position of refusing to pay them the monies until end of season ...

KEAN - Formica is not fit enough to lace up Rubens boots !!! ...

KEAN did you know Vukevic was famous in Italy for his quote "I dont really like football - I just play for money" ...

HUNT OUT !!!

KEAN OUT !!!

VENKYS OUT !!!

I didn't find it very interesting.

[Amo]

As for the last comment...Benoit Assou-Ekotto openly says the very same thing, doesn't make him a bad footballer.

I remember all the ex-pros giving him flak for that. I thought it was a refreshing piece of honesty.

[Al]

Formica is ten times the footballer that Rochina is.

No he isn't Rochina has all the talent. He just needs a proper coach and a plan to play to.

Not availible under Kean.

[LeChuck]

No he isn't Rochina has all the talent. He just needs a proper coach and a plan to play to.

Not availible under Kean.

If he didn't learn how to pass and play team football properly at Barca then I'm not sure what chance any other club has of teaching him it.

[den]

Technically Rochina is a far better player than Formica LeChuck.

As for Formica, I still don't see what he offers. A manager would have to ask if he's a defensively minded, a creator or a goalscorer - and he's none of those.

He moves well with the ball and sometimes looks like he's going to do something, but that's about it.