[Archived] Fabrice Muamba

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Spot on JBN.

It's looking likely the lad will survive and that's great news for him and his family...life goes on.

[Rover_Shaun]

I watched MOTD2 not knowing any results or any news. I turned on just as they were showing a minutes applause for Muamba. I had to check BBC text because I thought it was because he had died. Total over-reaction. I wish the lad a speedy recovery but what makes him any different to Joe Public??

[Amo]

I watched MOTD2 not knowing any results or any news. I turned on just as they were showing a minutes applause for Muamba. I had to check BBC text because I thought it was because he had died. Total over-reaction. I wish the lad a speedy recovery but what makes him any different to Joe Public??

The minute's applause is the dumbest thing to happen to the game. Full stop.

[A cup of beans]

The minute's applause is the dumbest thing to happen to the game. Full stop.

why do you feel that.

IMO It shows respect and is more appropriate in a lot of cases than the minutes silence.

Its been happening in Italy for decades.

[braddock]

The minute's applause is the dumbest thing to happen to the game. Full stop.

Unusual opinion.

I can understand people thinking it's not the best use of it when aimed towards a man who is alive, but still it does no harm.

But minutes applause as a concept the dumbest thing to happen to the game?

What are your thoughts on the minutes silence?

[True Blue & White]

"Bolton Chairman Phil Gartside has visited the hospital everyday"

I wonder if any of the Venky's mob would do the same if it happened to one of our boys?

[braddock]

"Bolton Chairman Phil Gartside has visited the hospital everyday"

I wonder if any of the Venky's mob would do the same if it happened to one of our boys?

[Amo]

"Bolton Chairman Phil Gartside has visited the hospital everyday"

I wonder if any of the Venky's mob would do the same if it happened to one of our boys?

Probably send a complimentary bucket of wings.

[A cup of beans]

"Bolton Chairman Phil Gartside has visited the hospital everyday"

I wonder if any of the Venky's mob would do the same if it happened to one of our boys?

pointscoring in the worst possible taste.

[DE.]

It irritates me a little to hear SSN keep referring to Muamba's incident on saturday as "tragic", it makes it sound like he died.

Unfortunate? Sure. Frightening? Yes. Tragic? It's a very sensational word to use and I think if you didn't know he was alive you'd assume otherwise if somebody used that word.

[Audax]

Tobin also revealed, before arriving at the London Chest Hospital, doctors tried to revive Muamba unsuccessfully for 48 minutes.

The 23-year-old Muamba's heart started beating again after a further 15 shocks.

"In effect, he was dead in that time," Dr Tobin said.

http://www.soccerway.com/news/2012/March/21/muamba-was-dead-for-almost-an-hour-says-doctor/

Haven't read all of the thread yet, this I had not heard.

[Audax]

HCM stands for Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. The heart is essentially a big bag made of muscle pumping blood around the body by contracting. In HCM there is a thickening of the muscle. As the muscle increases in size it can make the volume of the chambers in the heart smaller and can cause obstruction. The heart is controlled by an electric current and the muscle, under normal circumstances, acts as a copper wire would and transmits the current around the heart. When the heart muscle enlarges the paths that these currents take become skewed. This increases the chance that the main chambers of the heart (the ventricles) will go out of sync. This is most likely to happen during exercise when the heart is working at full throttle.

The above is what happened to Fabrice. His hearts rhythm will have gone haywire and caused him to suffer a cardiac arrest. He probably went into a rhythm called VT which thankfully is shockable meaning the paramedics were able to attempt to resus him using the defibrillator.

As one poster correctly said above the time his brain spent without oxygen will determine the speediness or extent of his recovery. After 6 minutes of no oxygen irreversible damage slowly begins to occur. Although some reports say that his heart was not beating for 2 hours that is without assistance. Drs will have cooled his body down and kept him asleep over the last couple of days so as to decrease the workload on his heart.

Reports over the last few minutes of him saying words are indeed promising but it could still be a long road to recovery from here.

Really hope he pulls through and its been touching to see the football community rally around at a time like this. Get well soon Fabrice!

Thanks for the answer, this is kind of like the article I read minus the talk about copper and electricity but I am sure you are correct.

[USABlue]

Or did you make the post in the Bolton thread ?

Don't think so, others are gone, maybe I did not hit reply, oh wait yes I read my post. Anyway does not matter. Just another reason I spend less and less time here. How are you my old friend anyway, been some time, I member when we conversed back and forth a bit and the chat at match days. Hope you are well and life is good.

[SouthAussieRover]

Don't think so, others are gone, maybe I did not hit reply, oh wait yes I read my post. Anyway does not matter. Just another reason I spend less and less time here. How are you my old friend anyway, been some time, I member when we conversed back and forth a bit and the chat at match days. Hope you are well and life is good.

I'm good thanks as I hope you are too.

I've been well and truly naffed off with the happenings at our club. However when Yak's header flew in the net on Tuesday I discovered it still meant a lot to me.

[True Blue & White]

Now it looks like he's going to be alright can I just say how annoying I'm finding the comments from his wife. In every statement she's made she starts it with "I'd like to thank God for answering our prayers" and has not yet once thanked or mentioned the doctors at the hopital or physios at the game who treated him (and in reality the actual ones who saved his life).

I've got no issue with people wanting to believe in magical sky fairies and that they can communicate with them telepathically, but after thanking the flying spaghetti monster you could at least mention the hospital and it's staff for praise.

Besides, if she's so conviced God is responsible for Muamba's thankful recovery, then surely he's also to blame for giving the poor lad a heart defect in the first place?

EDit: Cardiac specialists wondering if the religious might give them a little credit for Muamba survival

[Tom]

I'm sure she has thanked them in private, I'm also sure they aren't in their job for public praise.

[braddock]

I did let out a sigh when she said 'everybody pray, religious or not, every prayer is making him slightly better', or something along those lines. I didn't pray for him, but if he doesn't make it back to the first team I'm half expecting to have to shoulder half the blame.

[Dan]

Good to hear he is making a good recovery

[Stuart]

Now it looks like he's going to be alright can I just say how annoying I'm finding the comments from his wife. In every statement she's made she starts it with "I'd like to thank God for answering our prayers" and has not yet once thanked or mentioned the doctors at the hopital or physios at the game who treated him (and in reality the actual ones who saved his life).

I've got no issue with people wanting to believe in magical sky fairies and that they can communicate with them telepathically, but after thanking the flying spaghetti monster you could at least mention the hospital and it's staff for praise.

Besides, if she's so conviced God is responsible for Muamba's thankful recovery, then surely he's also to blame for giving the poor lad a heart defect in the first place?

EDit: Cardiac specialists wondering if the religious might give them a little credit for Muamba survival

I actually find that post very insulting.

[Amo]

Now it looks like he's going to be alright can I just say how annoying I'm finding the comments from his wife. In every statement she's made she starts it with "I'd like to thank God for answering our prayers" and has not yet once thanked or mentioned the doctors at the hopital or physios at the game who treated him (and in reality the actual ones who saved his life).

I've got no issue with people wanting to believe in magical sky fairies and that they can communicate with them telepathically, but after thanking the flying spaghetti monster you could at least mention the hospital and it's staff for praise.

Besides, if she's so conviced God is responsible for Muamba's thankful recovery, then surely he's also to blame for giving the poor lad a heart defect in the first place?

EDit: Cardiac specialists wondering if the religious might give them a little credit for Muamba survival

U mad, bro?

[imy9]

I actually find that post very insulting.

I agree.

[dubdubdub]

Now it looks like he's going to be alright can I just say how annoying I'm finding the comments from his wife. In every statement she's made she starts it with "I'd like to thank God for answering our prayers" and has not yet once thanked or mentioned the doctors at the hopital or physios at the game who treated him (and in reality the actual ones who saved his life).

I've got no issue with people wanting to believe in magical sky fairies and that they can communicate with them telepathically, but after thanking the flying spaghetti monster you could at least mention the hospital and it's staff for praise.

Besides, if she's so conviced God is responsible for Muamba's thankful recovery, then surely he's also to blame for giving the poor lad a heart defect in the first place?

EDit: Cardiac specialists wondering if the religious might give them a little credit for Muamba survival

I'm not religious in the slightest but if religion helps him to recover and for them to get through it then so be it.

I saw a statement earlier that did thank all the medics from Bolton and Spurs as well as the doctors at the hospital. Was from his fiance and father.

[braddock]

To be insulted by that post is hilarious though. Why be insulted when you know you're right, whatever you believe?

[imy9]

Now it looks like he's going to be alright can I just say how annoying I'm finding the comments from his wife. In every statement she's made she starts it with "I'd like to thank God for answering our prayers" and has not yet once thanked or mentioned the doctors at the hopital or physios at the game who treated him (and in reality the actual ones who saved his life).

I've got no issue with people wanting to believe in magical sky fairies and that they can communicate with them telepathically, but after thanking the flying spaghetti monster you could at least mention the hospital and it's staff for praise.

Besides, if she's so conviced God is responsible for Muamba's thankful recovery, then surely he's also to blame for giving the poor lad a heart defect in the first place?

EDit: Cardiac specialists wondering if the religious might give them a little credit for Muamba survival

From the bbc website:

fiance Shauna Magunda and father Marcel Muamba also added in the statement: "We would like to firstly thank God for answering our prayers.

"Thank you to everyone for the love, prayers and support over the past few days. In particular we owe an enormous gratitude to the Bolton and Spurs medical teams for their quick reaction on Saturday, and the fantastic team here at The London Chest Hospital."

Get your facts right.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

I think that the term prayer/pray doesn't have to necessarily mean the physical act of praying itself, its just an extension of 'hoping' that he'll be ok. I'm not religious at all and respect those who are, but I still dont quite get on board with the notion of thanking God for Muamba pulling through this terrifying ordeal when surely, if God is all powerful, it must have been the same God who gave him the cardiac arrest in the first place??? I have no intention of offending anybody, I just cannot understand how this works. Why can't God heal amputees?

Anyway, fantastic to hear that he's making such a quick recovery. Under different circumstances I'd genuinely hope Bolton stay up just for Fab.