[Archived] Venkys, Kean, Stability and Progress?

[47er]

Incredible debate RE. Kean against Bruce on the previous pages. Really quite incredible.

The only "pros" that the profoundly puzzling venkymob see in Steve Kean are that he's an obedient, malleable, media-savvy, sorry lapdog of a man - who's lack of courage and shame makes he and the Indian imbeciles paralysing lack of interest and ambition for all things Rovers a perfect marriage. "brilliant" was that fool Venkatesh's immortal conclusion of Kean's abilities and you can see why, when they say "jump" and he simply responds "how high?"

Would Steve Bruce or any other manager you would actually recognise as a "manager" - and not a Glaswegian charlatan in an ill-fitting suit - stand for the penny-pinching, cost-cutting nonsensical risks implemented by the redoubtable Rao brothers and their appalling battle-axe of a sister? All this perhaps makes "Stevie" Kean good husband material, but he's a woefully inadequate manager and that's that.

It's just an absolute sickener what's happening to the club and that some supporters are freely endorsing it all after a couple of paper-over-the-cracks victories - against motley sides - whilst media muppets stupidly champion the "Kean for manager of the season" campaign, simply rubs salt in the wound. The man is a pudding who's shortage of ability along with pitiful player recruitment has seen him re-write the chronicles in BRFC blundering over and over again. Worst run without a win? Easy done! 11 months without a clean sheet? With aplomb! Bottom at Christmas? No problem! Yet folk are blowing smoke up his back passage simply because he skips merrily from debacle to catastrophe with all the wide-eyed innocence of Buster Keaton.

Its like Ewood Park has been invaded by an occupying enemy force this last year: Williams and Finn depart and all sorts of undesirables run amok. The club was a fiercely proud David amongst a sea of insipid, opulent Goliath's under their almost infallible guidance and the sooner this unbearable mob of chumps disperse the sooner we can get back to being the football club we were prior to their arrival. Sadly, one fears Blackcomedy Rovers has plenty more mileage and that Kean will snaffle up the end-of-season accolades at the expense of the club and its terminal decline, whilst continuing to waffle about positives and momentum - not realising that momentum is best gathered downhill - and that's just where this shallow, ill-considered vanity project is heading, faster than a turd down a Twyfords.

The whole sorry shower really are an absolute affront to this proud club.

Great post! Needed saying.

[Mattyblue]

He doesnt post much that Rolo, but when he does...

[DE.]

I'd like to reserve a +1 here for Rolo's post on the basis that system might one day come back.

[TBTF]

Couldn't agree more Rolo-have you taken advantage of the early bird then???? Or have you been consumed by the Muamba effect ?? Cos how many times will we be using that between now and relegation???

[Amo]

Incredible debate RE. Kean against Bruce on the previous pages. Really quite incredible.

The only "pros" that the profoundly puzzling venkymob see in Steve Kean are that he's an obedient, malleable, media-savvy, sorry lapdog of a man - who's lack of courage and shame makes he and the Indian imbeciles paralysing lack of interest and ambition for all things Rovers a perfect marriage. "brilliant" was that fool Venkatesh's immortal conclusion of Kean's abilities and you can see why, when they say "jump" and he simply responds "how high?"

Would Steve Bruce or any other manager you would actually recognise as a "manager" - and not a Glaswegian charlatan in an ill-fitting suit - stand for the penny-pinching, cost-cutting nonsensical risks implemented by the redoubtable Rao brothers and their appalling battle-axe of a sister? All this perhaps makes "Stevie" Kean good husband material, but he's a woefully inadequate manager and that's that.

It's just an absolute sickener what's happening to the club and that some supporters are freely endorsing it all after a couple of paper-over-the-cracks victories - against motley sides - whilst media muppets stupidly champion the "Kean for manager of the season" campaign, simply rubs salt in the wound. The man is a pudding who's shortage of ability along with pitiful player recruitment has seen him re-write the chronicles in BRFC blundering over and over again. Worst run without a win? Easy done! 11 months without a clean sheet? With aplomb! Bottom at Christmas? No problem! Yet folk are blowing smoke up his back passage simply because he skips merrily from debacle to catastrophe with all the wide-eyed innocence of Buster Keaton.

Its like Ewood Park has been invaded by an occupying enemy force this last year: Williams and Finn depart and all sorts of undesirables run amok. The club was a fiercely proud David amongst a sea of insipid, opulent Goliath's under their almost infallible guidance and the sooner this unbearable mob of chumps disperse the sooner we can get back to being the football club we were prior to their arrival. Sadly, one fears Blackcomedy Rovers has plenty more mileage and that Kean will snaffle up the end-of-season accolades at the expense of the club and its terminal decline, whilst continuing to waffle about positives and momentum - not realising that momentum is best gathered downhill - and that's just where this shallow, ill-considered vanity project is heading, faster than a turd down a Twyfords.

The whole sorry shower really are an absolute affront to this proud club.

Take a bow, son.

[Fife Rover]

This is the best comment. Nothing more to be said.

Aleluya!!! and +1

Incredible debate RE. Kean against Bruce on the previous pages. Really quite incredible.

The only "pros" that the profoundly puzzling venkymob see in Steve Kean are that he's an obedient, malleable, media-savvy, sorry lapdog of a man - who's lack of courage and shame makes he and the Indian imbeciles paralysing lack of interest and ambition for all things Rovers a perfect marriage. "brilliant" was that fool Venkatesh's immortal conclusion of Kean's abilities and you can see why, when they say "jump" and he simply responds "how high?"

Would Steve Bruce or any other manager you would actually recognise as a "manager" - and not a Glaswegian charlatan in an ill-fitting suit - stand for the penny-pinching, cost-cutting nonsensical risks implemented by the redoubtable Rao brothers and their appalling battle-axe of a sister? All this perhaps makes "Stevie" Kean good husband material, but he's a woefully inadequate manager and that's that.

It's just an absolute sickener what's happening to the club and that some supporters are freely endorsing it all after a couple of paper-over-the-cracks victories - against motley sides - whilst media muppets stupidly champion the "Kean for manager of the season" campaign, simply rubs salt in the wound. The man is a pudding who's shortage of ability along with pitiful player recruitment has seen him re-write the chronicles in BRFC blundering over and over again. Worst run without a win? Easy done! 11 months without a clean sheet? With aplomb! Bottom at Christmas? No problem! Yet folk are blowing smoke up his back passage simply because he skips merrily from debacle to catastrophe with all the wide-eyed innocence of Buster Keaton.

Its like Ewood Park has been invaded by an occupying enemy force this last year: Williams and Finn depart and all sorts of undesirables run amok. The club was a fiercely proud David amongst a sea of insipid, opulent Goliath's under their almost infallible guidance and the sooner this unbearable mob of chumps disperse the sooner we can get back to being the football club we were prior to their arrival. Sadly, one fears Blackcomedy Rovers has plenty more mileage and that Kean will snaffle up the end-of-season accolades at the expense of the club and its terminal decline, whilst continuing to waffle about positives and momentum - not realising that momentum is best gathered downhill - and that's just where this shallow, ill-considered vanity project is heading, faster than a turd down a Twyfords.

The whole sorry shower really are an absolute affront to this proud club.

Wunderbar! Great stuff and +1

[purplegrover]

Incredible debate RE. Kean against Bruce on the previous pages. Really quite incredible.

The only "pros" that the profoundly puzzling venkymob see in Steve Kean are that he's an obedient, malleable, media-savvy, sorry lapdog of a man - who's lack of courage and shame makes he and the Indian imbeciles paralysing lack of interest and ambition for all things Rovers a perfect marriage. "brilliant" was that fool Venkatesh's immortal conclusion of Kean's abilities and you can see why, when they say "jump" and he simply responds "how high?"

Would Steve Bruce or any other manager you would actually recognise as a "manager" - and not a Glaswegian charlatan in an ill-fitting suit - stand for the penny-pinching, cost-cutting nonsensical risks implemented by the redoubtable Rao brothers and their appalling battle-axe of a sister? All this perhaps makes "Stevie" Kean good husband material, but he's a woefully inadequate manager and that's that.

It's just an absolute sickener what's happening to the club and that some supporters are freely endorsing it all after a couple of paper-over-the-cracks victories - against motley sides - whilst media muppets stupidly champion the "Kean for manager of the season" campaign, simply rubs salt in the wound. The man is a pudding who's shortage of ability along with pitiful player recruitment has seen him re-write the chronicles in BRFC blundering over and over again. Worst run without a win? Easy done! 11 months without a clean sheet? With aplomb! Bottom at Christmas? No problem! Yet folk are blowing smoke up his back passage simply because he skips merrily from debacle to catastrophe with all the wide-eyed innocence of Buster Keaton.

Its like Ewood Park has been invaded by an occupying enemy force this last year: Williams and Finn depart and all sorts of undesirables run amok. The club was a fiercely proud David amongst a sea of insipid, opulent Goliath's under their almost infallible guidance and the sooner this unbearable mob of chumps disperse the sooner we can get back to being the football club we were prior to their arrival. Sadly, one fears Blackcomedy Rovers has plenty more mileage and that Kean will snaffle up the end-of-season accolades at the expense of the club and its terminal decline, whilst continuing to waffle about positives and momentum - not realising that momentum is best gathered downhill - and that's just where this shallow, ill-considered vanity project is heading, faster than a turd down a Twyfords.

The whole sorry shower really are an absolute affront to this proud club.

Cracker of a post mate.

The rest of this thread was like watching one of those never ending tennis matches between two grunting east europeans...both of whom have a point, but where no resolution is possible.

The only thing I would say Rolo, and sorry to repeat what has been said on other threads, is that while Keans execrable record and disastrous lies, deceit and toadying speak for themselves, I'm not entirely sure he can be blamed completely for the pitiful player recruitment - I suspect that (as you have said) he is told to jump - and responds 'how high ?'. The very presence of Myles Anderson is good evidence that the signings are directed from somewhere else.

[Steve Moss]

Incredible debate RE. Kean against Bruce on the previous pages. Really quite incredible.

The only "pros" that the profoundly puzzling venkymob see in Steve Kean are that he's an obedient, malleable, media-savvy, sorry lapdog of a man - who's lack of courage and shame makes he and the Indian imbeciles paralysing lack of interest and ambition for all things Rovers a perfect marriage. "brilliant" was that fool Venkatesh's immortal conclusion of Kean's abilities and you can see why, when they say "jump" and he simply responds "how high?"

Would Steve Bruce or any other manager you would actually recognise as a "manager" - and not a Glaswegian charlatan in an ill-fitting suit - stand for the penny-pinching, cost-cutting nonsensical risks implemented by the redoubtable Rao brothers and their appalling battle-axe of a sister? All this perhaps makes "Stevie" Kean good husband material, but he's a woefully inadequate manager and that's that.

It's just an absolute sickener what's happening to the club and that some supporters are freely endorsing it all after a couple of paper-over-the-cracks victories - against motley sides - whilst media muppets stupidly champion the "Kean for manager of the season" campaign, simply rubs salt in the wound. The man is a pudding who's shortage of ability along with pitiful player recruitment has seen him re-write the chronicles in BRFC blundering over and over again. Worst run without a win? Easy done! 11 months without a clean sheet? With aplomb! Bottom at Christmas? No problem! Yet folk are blowing smoke up his back passage simply because he skips merrily from debacle to catastrophe with all the wide-eyed innocence of Buster Keaton.

Its like Ewood Park has been invaded by an occupying enemy force this last year: Williams and Finn depart and all sorts of undesirables run amok. The club was a fiercely proud David amongst a sea of insipid, opulent Goliath's under their almost infallible guidance and the sooner this unbearable mob of chumps disperse the sooner we can get back to being the football club we were prior to their arrival. Sadly, one fears Blackcomedy Rovers has plenty more mileage and that Kean will snaffle up the end-of-season accolades at the expense of the club and its terminal decline, whilst continuing to waffle about positives and momentum - not realising that momentum is best gathered downhill - and that's just where this shallow, ill-considered vanity project is heading, faster than a turd down a Twyfords.

The whole sorry shower really are an absolute affront to this proud club.

+1.

This post is an outstanding example of why the +1 system should be brought back. Perhaps limiting each poster to one +1 and one -1 per day?

[TBTF]

Cracker of a post mate.

The rest of this thread was like watching one of those never ending tennis matches between two grunting east europeans...both of whom have a point, but where no resolution is possible.

The only thing I would say Rolo, and sorry to repeat what has been said on other threads, is that while Keans execrable record and disastrous lies, deceit and toadying speak for themselves, I'm not entirely sure he can be blamed completely for the pitiful player recruitment - I suspect that (as you have said) he is told to jump - and responds 'how high ?'. The very presence of Myles Anderson is good evidence that the signings are directed from somewhere else.

Agree P G -what in gods name does our erstwhile sporting director bring to the party? In fact who is this faceless wonder going by the name of Simon Hunt? We have bought utter crap in the main-Yak excluded -and the dilution in our squad is ridiculous for a team supposedly fighting for its Premiership life.So you do have to accept that Keans task in achieving with this bunch of no marks is'nt an easy one.Which is why any self respecting manager would have chucked in the towel yonks ago, thus bringing us back to the Rolo post which has the job sussed all ends up.

[den]

The only thing I would say Rolo, and sorry to repeat what has been said on other threads, is that while Keans execrable record and disastrous lies, deceit and toadying speak for themselves, I'm not entirely sure he can be blamed completely for the pitiful player recruitment - I suspect that (as you have said) he is told to jump - and responds 'how high ?'. The very presence of Myles Anderson is good evidence that the signings are directed from somewhere else.

Kean was manager when Myles was signed - wasn't he? Who says he didn't go along with it?

Kean's the manager and he either puts his name to these signings, or he walks away. He can't argue that he didn't go along with this.

[DE.]

Exactly, Den. Kean may not decide who comes in, but it wasn't Venky's calling Goodwillie 'the Scottish Wayne Rooney' or Riberio 'the Brazilian Denis Irwin' ... with quotes like that Kean has to take any stick that comes his way regarding transfers. As long as he happily works within the current system he is as much to blame as anybody else.

[K-Hod]

Exactly, Den. Kean may not decide who comes in, but it wasn't Venky's calling Goodwillie 'the Scottish Wayne Rooney' or Riberio 'the Brazilian Denis Irwin' ... with quotes like that Kean has to take any stick that comes his way regarding transfers. As long as he happily works within the current system he is as much to blame as anybody else.

It's arguably the most frustrating thing of all that he's made all these daft comments and suggestions, and the media's selective memory allows them to go unnoticed and unchallenged.

Meanwhile the fans have treated him disgustingly obviously.

[A cup of beans]

there were no 'venkys chants' at the burnley youth, wolves, or bolton games either.

been nothing in the home games for months.

wondering what the reasons are. surely venky's havent been forgiven!

The pressure is off venkys, with nothing in the press. Isnt it about time the chants returned ?

[pick32]

The chants stopped the results picked up, think we should leave the lynch mob until after the season is over.

[A cup of beans]

The chants stopped the results picked up, think we should leave the lynch mob until after the season is over.

So we only chanted abuse at kean and venkys when we were losing ?

whilst we remain silent, and nothing gets in the uk/ indian press.. they are getting an easy ride.

[Mattyblue]

I'd be happy singing it all game long, but for now it's all about survival.

Venky's won't hear about chants in any case, who's going to tell them? Agnew, Hunt... Kean?!

We need a rethink in the summer, I'd say we need more stuff like the Economic Times of India article, but that achieved bugger all.

[lsp82]

I've decided to email and tweet every know media journalist in the country with a list of questions that need to be asked about Venkys and Coco Kean. (Know it won't do much good but i need to get them off my chest!) Anyone wants to add any feel free to put them on here.

[BPF]

The chants stopped the results picked up, think we should leave the lynch mob until after the season is over.

Football fans (Maybe Rovers fans in particular) are the most fickle people in the world.

[gumboots]

Football fans (Maybe Rovers fans in particular) are the most fickle people in the world.

I don't think it's that. It's just that it looks even worse to the media if we boo when we're winning. Think about their comments about protests earlier in the season. Besides which, the team seems to appreciate our leaving protests aside at the moment. It's hard to motivate yourself to chant against absentee owners anyway when you know they don't listen and aren't affected, and what's the point in booing Kean? It's water off a duck's back to him and the media love portraying us as the villains so any boos would be used against us. They've got us all ends up and we simply can't win. We boo and they say we are bad fans. We stop the booing and we're all behind Kean even though I don't know anyone who actually is. Our only chance is to get over the line and stay up and then hope against hope that something changes, that we find a way of showing what this lot are really like or that they get bored with their toy and get rid of us to someone who is better suited. Since i can't really see that happening we really are screwed, and so have sunk into a kind of temporary apathy where we don't know what to do next. doesn't mean we're fickle - most of us would say goodbye to Kean at the drop of a hat and to Venkys even sooner if there was better coming in, but one thing this whole fiasco has taught us is to be very careful what you wish for.

[Amo]

...Wrong thread.

[blue_n_white99]

Incredible debate RE. Kean against Bruce on the previous pages. Really quite incredible.

The only "pros" that the profoundly puzzling venkymob see in Steve Kean are that he's an obedient, malleable, media-savvy, sorry lapdog of a man - who's lack of courage and shame makes he and the Indian imbeciles paralysing lack of interest and ambition for all things Rovers a perfect marriage. "brilliant" was that fool Venkatesh's immortal conclusion of Kean's abilities and you can see why, when they say "jump" and he simply responds "how high?"

Would Steve Bruce or any other manager you would actually recognise as a "manager" - and not a Glaswegian charlatan in an ill-fitting suit - stand for the penny-pinching, cost-cutting nonsensical risks implemented by the redoubtable Rao brothers and their appalling battle-axe of a sister? All this perhaps makes "Stevie" Kean good husband material, but he's a woefully inadequate manager and that's that.

It's just an absolute sickener what's happening to the club and that some supporters are freely endorsing it all after a couple of paper-over-the-cracks victories - against motley sides - whilst media muppets stupidly champion the "Kean for manager of the season" campaign, simply rubs salt in the wound. The man is a pudding who's shortage of ability along with pitiful player recruitment has seen him re-write the chronicles in BRFC blundering over and over again. Worst run without a win? Easy done! 11 months without a clean sheet? With aplomb! Bottom at Christmas? No problem! Yet folk are blowing smoke up his back passage simply because he skips merrily from debacle to catastrophe with all the wide-eyed innocence of Buster Keaton.

Its like Ewood Park has been invaded by an occupying enemy force this last year: Williams and Finn depart and all sorts of undesirables run amok. The club was a fiercely proud David amongst a sea of insipid, opulent Goliath's under their almost infallible guidance and the sooner this unbearable mob of chumps disperse the sooner we can get back to being the football club we were prior to their arrival. Sadly, one fears Blackcomedy Rovers has plenty more mileage and that Kean will snaffle up the end-of-season accolades at the expense of the club and its terminal decline, whilst continuing to waffle about positives and momentum - not realising that momentum is best gathered downhill - and that's just where this shallow, ill-considered vanity project is heading, faster than a turd down a Twyfords.

The whole sorry shower really are an absolute affront to this proud club.

+1

[47er]

The chants stopped the results picked up, think we should leave the lynch mob until after the season is over.

Cause and effect eh? I scratched my nose the other day and the rain stopped!

Its a proven fact!

[A cup of beans]

I'd be happy singing it all game long, but for now it's all about survival.

Venky's won't hear about chants in any case, who's going to tell them? Agnew, Hunt... Kean?!

We need a rethink in the summer, I'd say we need more stuff like the Economic Times of India article, but that achieved bugger all.

Surely, we can still have sustained segments of 'venky's out' chats throughout a game, whilst still passionately supporting the team ?

Monday night would be an opportune time. The game is shown live worldwide and no doubt our wonderful owners will be hosting a lavish party.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Cause and effect eh? I scratched my nose the other day and the rain stopped!

Its a proven fact!

Then you stood up - and the Sun came out

(only joking)

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Interesting that on the day that Olsson (Martin) is rumoured to want to leave (hardly a ringing endorsement of Kean or the Venky's) Jones comes out in support of Kean.