[Archived] Season Tickets 2012/13

[K-Hod]

Good football is subjective. For me, winning football=good football.

Goals win matches, not pass completion rates. How you arrive at said goals is irrelevant.

[jim mk2]

When our win ratio was better at the end of the season with a more mixed game - yeh must admit to being confused to going back to totally long ball tactics the following season.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

But its great to see the sensible minority (or quiet majority) having their say now his previously very vocal critics are keeping their heads down or pretending they never give him much stick in the first place.

Though I can never remember giving Sam too much stick (though as I said higher up the thread - I was very disappointed he reverted to type in his second season when he had shown we could mix it up a little) - Sam will always look good compared to the person that followed him - so it really isn't a good comparison.

One thing that Sam has always done is divide opinion amongst the fan base of all the clubs he has managed.

Ok Jim - if you win more matches with a more mixed game - why revert to totally long ball (mostly from Robinson boot) when the win ratio using that method is less ?

[thenodrog]

Good football is subjective. For me, winning football=good football.

Goals win matches, not pass completion rates. How you arrive at said goals is irrelevant.

Not really. Sure the real buzz as you say is walking along Bolton Road at 5pm with 3 points in the bag. Achieving that with extravagent flowing football is the icing on the cake / the bubbles in the champagne.

[thenodrog]

Ok Jim - if you win more matches with a more mixed game - why revert to totally long ball (mostly from Robinson boot) when the win ratio using that method is less ?

Orders from on high of course. Rule 1....'Keep us safe from relegation. Rules 2-10 See rule 1.

Bear in mind also that some of the teams mid table and safe at the end of the season are on auto pilot till their holidays.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Orders from on high of course. Rule 1....'Keep us safe from relegation. Rules 2-10 See rule 1.

Bear in mind also that some of the teams mid table and safe at the end of the season are on auto pilot till their holidays.

Hang on - we were safe and in mid-table - so would the auto pilot not apply to us ? In the sequence we beat Burnley and Birmingham (both fighting relegation), drew with Chelsea and Man U - and also beat Arsenal.

Football is all about opinion - but for me we had become too predictable - when we mixed it up a little we caught teams off guard - and I don't see any reason why this wouldn't have worked at the start of the season.

I have a great deal of respect for what Sam did while at the club - and also what he has achieved elsewhere. But I was growing tired of constant long punts from Robinson - or every throw being a long throw from MGP - especially when the end of the previous season had given us a glimpse of what was possible with the players at his disposal, IMO without putting our league position at risk.

[thenodrog]

Hang on - we were safe and in mid-table - so would the auto pilot not apply to us ? In the sequence we beat Burnley and Birmingham (both fighting relegation), drew with Chelsea and Man U - and also beat Arsenal.

Football is all about opinion - but for me we had become too predictable - when we mixed it up a little we caught teams off guard - and I don't see any reason why this wouldn't have worked at the start of the season.

I have a great deal of respect for what Sam did while at the club - and also what he has achieved elsewhere. But I was growing tired of constant long punts from Robinson - or every throw being a long throw from MGP - especially when the end of the previous season had given us a glimpse of what was possible with the players at his disposal, IMO without putting our league position at risk.

Valid argument to a point but the key is in your final sentence.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

Valid argument to a point but the key is in your final sentence.

Strange that Hughes managed to get us playing decent football on a limited budget - and we seemed to be able to do this from the start of the season.

[blueboy3333]

Orders from on high of course. Rule 1....'Keep us safe from relegation. Rules 2-10 See rule 1.

Bear in mind also that some of the teams mid table and safe at the end of the season are on auto pilot till their holidays.

I didn't realise John Williams was dictating how Big Sam set up his teams. No wonder he wanted to go and manage in the Middle East.

+1

And for anyone who says his sides can't / don't play football, WHAM had the pundits drooling with their football in the 3-0 success against Fulham including Harry Redknapp.

Harry Redknapp used to 'drool' about Steve Kean, so perhaps his views can be discounted. I saw MOTD too and it just showed WHAM humping it to Carroll. Harry's 'drooling' might just be an age thing.

[Mike Graham]

Eh, I thought this was the Season Ticket thread?!

[den]

So one week Sam would tell 'em to hoof it and we win, the next week he would tell 'em to pass it and we win? You think football's that's easy? You think teams can turn the style on week in, week out? We couldn't do that when we gained promotion to the PL and we couldn't do that when we won the PL. Some times we hoofed it up to Shearer all day long, sometimes we passed it well.

Strange that Hughes managed to get us playing decent football on a limited budget - and we seemed to be able to do this from the start of the season.

The only time that Hughes had us playing decent footbll was when we had the likes of Bentley, RSC and Bellamy. Otherwise it was total crap. Your memories playing tricks on you there.

[blueboy3333]

So one week Sam would tell 'em to hoof it and we win, the next week he would tell 'em to pass it and we win? You think football's that's easy? You think teams can turn the style on week in, week out? We couldn't do that when we gained promotion to the PL and we couldn't do that when we won the PL. Some times we hoofed it up to Shearer all day long, sometimes we passed it well.

The only time that Hughes had us playing decent footbll was when we had the likes of Bentley, RSC and Bellamy. Otherwise it was total crap. Your memories playing tricks on you there.

FFS. That's probably why he bought them, so he could play good football!!!! Not the brightest then Den?

[thenodrog]

Strange that Hughes managed to get us playing decent football on a limited budget - and we seemed to be able to do this from the start of the season.

Not strange at all but the sole reason one of the big clubs came in took him. Rem what happened after that? We ended up with that numbskull 'passing football' manager Paul Ince and lost Friedel and Bentley straight away, RSC came over all injured so that he could follow Hughes and we ended up in deep relegation trouble inside 3 months.

Losing good managers to bigger clubs is the way of football. Allardyce was always successful with smaller clubs but cos of his dour reputation Allardyce represented damaged goods to big clubs. The man was tailor made for BRFC 2008. We were effectively beggars we could not be choosers.

Nevertheless I'd like nothing more than for Hughes to come back.... would you care to write to him and enquire as to his availability David?

[Gav]

Eh, I thought this was the Season Ticket thread?!

No no no, Its a willy waving competition PB

[Stuart]

I blame Abbey...

[philipl]

Far far more season ticket sales under Sam than under Kean.

[ABBEY]

I blame Abbey...

why

[Stuart]

This...

SERIOUS QUESTION,

WHY are all the sam lovers not flocking back to ewood? ###### football and winning is all you wanted ,right?

[den]

FFS. That's probably why he bought them, so he could play good football!!!! Not the brightest then Den?

Allardyce had a massively negative transfer budget blueboy and had to sell players. I'm sure if he could have bought Anelka, Djorkaeoff and Jay Jay Okacha, he would have done.

Not the brightest there blueboy.

[John]

Allardyce had a massively negative transfer budget blueboy and had to sell players. I'm sure if he could have bought Anelka, Djorkaeoff and Jay Jay Okacha, he would have done.

Not the brightest there blueboy.

Campo too who was an excellent midfield general - remember speaking to Salgado at a players bash who said Sam always wanted to bring in a top quality central midfielder but never had the funds to do so.

[Gav]

Campo too who was an excellent midfield general - remember speaking to Salgado at a players bash who said Sam always wanted to bring in a top quality central midfielder but never had the funds to do so.

He should have used the money he wasted on Kalinic....

[mhead]

Another messy thread?

What are Season-ticket sales for 2012/13........

[Gav]

Another messy thread?

What are Season-ticket sales for 2012/13........

8000 wasn't it?

[eire3382]

This is silly, when sam was manager yes not everyone liked his methods but it was effective. During his time in charge season ticket sales were doing well.

Since the fat bald stupid ugly freak has been in charge season ticket sales have dropped significantly. Until he is removed this will not change.

[John]

He should have used the money he wasted on Kalinic....

Sadly not every buy a managers makes work out, don't think any one has ever had a 100% record. Think Sam's attempts to get Guti showed he wanted a decent/established player in the middle - however the board at the time would not fund that deal.

We can debate all we want, Sam's results whilst manager here spoke for themselves.