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Many people feel the same 47er, if Venkys sack Kean I'll consider going back, until then I won't even entertain the idea.

For many, including myself, this will not be enough.

I am not prepared to put a single penny more into the club's coffers until we are rid of the most reprehensible owners of a football club that I have ever, ever known.

If I had already renewed, I would be looking at ways to cancel my agreement and recover any monies already taken. For those who have already paid-up in full, and are regretting their decision to renew, go and see one of the firms of solicitors offering free legal advice, as there will be a loophole somewhere in the 'contractual' terms and conditions knowing Rovers' present level of incompetence.

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Just to be blunt and to put the childish argument to bed.

Rovers have NOT sold 6000 tickets to date it is significantly less.

Source : BRFC Ticket Office AND close associate.

I am fairly convinced we have sold the 6000 mentioned.

Same source that gave me the heads up on the early bird.

Though I doubt many more will be sold on top of that after yesterday's antics.

Mattyblue, it is interesting what 1864roverite has to say and also Gav's insider knowledge on this - both way, way short of 6,000, possibly half of this at best.

It's difficult to know what you can rely on coming out of our club these days. In my opinion, it's possible that games are being played with the numbers and some, unwittingly, might be buying into them.

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My source doesn't work for the club.

He's usually bob on on this kind of thing- eg the early bird offer.

In any case, just ask around, plenty are not renewing, but are 1 in 3? Without a doubt.

Given 40% of people who voted in the poll on this very site said they renewed or bought a new ticket, it would seem that 6,000 is a perfectly believable figure. My guess would have been a bit less than that but certainly way above the more fanciful figures of 1,200 or 1,400. Whilst the club have never told us at the Fans Forum numbers of sales before they have finished, what they said last week, which was pretty much what went in the press release the day after would fit in closer with what Mattyblue says and our own members have said. They were pleasantly surprised at sales having feared the worst. Sales were not far behind the last time we did an early bird, when we were 7th in the table and when we had a good run of form whilst the sale was on.

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Please be aware folks - that trying to cancel now is a very tricky area. Rovers have received payment in full if you are on Direct Debit. You are repaying a finance company - Zebra finance, if I remember correctly. Be careful not to bugger up credit files etc!

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Christ. This is old news, and has been discussed on here before, but I just watched the 'Dunny delivers early bird season ticket' video on the rovers website. Was almost sick in my mouth. Cringeworthy doesn't begin to describe it.

The Rovers fan on there (who didn't even look suprised to see the cameras) is a vision of how the media expect us all to behave. Just blindly doing what he's told. Disgrace.

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The Rovers fan on there (who didn't even look suprised to see the cameras) is a vision of how the media expect us all to behave. Just blindly doing what he's told. Disgrace.

It's also how some of our own fans believe we should behave.

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I'm in the same boat as you, dave. Ive renewed for many reasons. Rovers have played a huge part in my life for 30 years. I cant imagine missing a game at Ewood out of choice!

I cannot imagine how I'd feel sat at home at 3pm on a Saturday, when Rovers are at home.

I've missed about home 5 games in almost 30 years (and they were due to weddings and holidays).

My Dad, is adamant he isnt renewing. I have tried to get him to change his mind (DONT LET VENKYS AND KEAN DEPRIVE YOU OF WATCHING YOUR CLUB).

Cost is irrelevant to him and he will not renew while Kean remains in-charge. He feels bad about it, but his anger at Venkys and Kean is too great. He says he wont give the owners another penny!

He wont abandon the club, completely. But he will pick and choose his games and take advantage of complimentary tickets, (for the 1st time since his playing days!) - something he hates doing!

There lies the problem...

It isn't our club anymore.

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If you paid by direct debit then you've got your 2 weeks 'cooling-off period' to cancel it.

Isnt it a 5 day cooling off period fro a credit agreement signed in your own home? Either way, Im well out of time!

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There lies the problem...

It isn't our club anymore.

I don't really follow the logic here.

"Don't let Venky's stop you watching your club!"

Because watching Rovers is such a joy now, isn't it?

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I'm in the same boat as you, dave. Ive renewed for many reasons. Rovers have played a huge part in my life for 30 years. I cant imagine missing a game at Ewood out of choice!

I cannot imagine how I'd feel sat at home at 3pm on a Saturday, when Rovers are at home.

I've missed about home 5 games in almost 30 years (and they were due to weddings and holidays).

My Dad, is adamant he isnt renewing. I have tried to get him to change his mind (DONT LET VENKYS AND KEAN DEPRIVE YOU OF WATCHING YOUR CLUB).

Cost is irrelevant to him and he will not renew while Kean remains in-charge. He feels bad about it, but his anger at Venkys and Kean is too great. He says he wont give the owners another penny!

He wont abandon the club, completely. But he will pick and choose his games and take advantage of complimentary tickets, (for the 1st time since his playing days!) - something he hates doing!

What an excellent post. Agree 100%. Ditto Ossy Dave's post.

Two years ago I was going with two friends. One dropped off at the end of last season and the other isn't renewing this season despite my efforts to persuade him otherwise. He says he will attend the occasional game this season on an ad hoc basis but my experience is that if you stop going for any other reason than you can't afford it then you quickly get out of the habit and find other things to do with your valuable free time.

It's a free country and I fully respect and understand people's decisions on this, in any other walk of life if you're unhappy with a product or services you simply stop using them. For me though, if you genuinely support a Club you do it for life, and I can't understand how anyone could even consider supporting or transferring their allegiances to another Club.

I've always suspected we would be relegated at some point, ever since the Trustees stopped putting money in, and I often thought that I probably wouldn't be able to stomach the mediocrity of Championship football or even lower after experiencing the dizzying heights of actually winning the Premiership. Now we're here however the thought of walking way and not renewing hasn't even entered my head, if anything the Club need the support of genuine fans more than ever before, especially while the Club is in such turmoil.

I understand the argument that by sticking with the Club you're simply putting money in Venky's pockets but I don't agree. I don't think the financial implications of fans renewing are that important to Venky's in the overall scheme of things. I do however feel that the more fans walk away from the Club, the less likely it is that we will ever find suitable alternative owners/investors.

So for those not renewing good luck, and hopefully see you again at some point. For those who have already renewed or are maybe thinking about it, don't let those who aren't renewing intimidate you into thinking you are somehow not a proper fan if you renew, or put you off, it's entirely your decision, and your decision to renew is in now way shape or form a vindication of Steve Kean or Venky's, it is an expression of support for Blackburn Rovers Football Club which has been around since 1875 and which will I'm sure still be in existence long after Kean and Venky's have gone.

:rover::tu:

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Could you not go down the false advertising route?

Steve Kean promised us that there was no chance we would get relegated

He's now promising there is no chance of administration and now that we've been relegated we'll be taking a step forward. Does anyone believe him?

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I don't think the financial implications of fans renewing are that important to Venky's in the overall scheme of things. I do however feel that the more fans walk away from the Club, the less likely it is that we will ever find suitable alternative owners/investors.

That is a fantastic point, one that has rarely been discussed, before.

There is a recent (ish) precident for losing fans, en masse and gaining new supporters (from 96- 2009) hopefully we can keep those fans / or atleast win those fans back.

I also agree that fans not attending could be lost forever, (once they get out of the habit/ find other things to do with their time). A huge worry! :(

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That is a fantastic point, one that has rarely been discussed, before.

There is a recent (ish) precident for losing fans, en masse and gaining new supporters (from 96- 2009) hopefully we can keep those fans / or atleast win those fans back.

I also agree that fans not attending could be lost forever, (once they get out of the habit/ find other things to do with their time). A huge worry! :(

I can only speak for the five members of my family who go together but the main problem for us is that it doesn't feel anything like 'our' club anymore. We used to look forward to going all week, loved the build up to games and the excited chatter as we travelled to Ewood and listened to Radio Rovers for team news. The walk to the gound confirmed that there were thousands of like minded Rovers fans who got the same 'buzz' as we did. After the game it didn't matter too much about the result, we would look forward to the next game and we could go through the match day experience again. We knew that there were good, honest people behind the scenes who had the best interests of Blackburn Rovers at heart. Our loyalty was to them too.

Sadly the feeling of being part of something special evaporated over the course of last season and the shenanigins over the last few days have really confirmed to us that we are right not to renew. Our collective shock and horror has galvanised us and our resilience will reamin until things change.

Blackburn Rovers are there now in name only to us and will remain so until there is a dramatic change. Only then will we return.

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I don't really follow the logic here.

"Don't let Venky's stop you watching your club!"

Because watching Rovers is such a joy now, isn't it?

Ey? Did you mean to quote me there? That is exactly the point I was making.

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He's now promising there is no chance of administration and now that we've been relegated we'll be taking a step forward. Does anyone believe him?

Appears the prem league believe him and the owners - which is even worse.

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I can only speak for the five members of my family who go together but the main problem for us is that it doesn't feel anything like 'our' club anymore. We used to look forward to going all week, loved the build up to games and the excited chatter as we travelled to Ewood and listened to Radio Rovers for team news. The walk to the gound confirmed that there were thousands of like minded Rovers fans who got the same 'buzz' as we did. After the game it didn't matter too much about the result, we would look forward to the next game and we could go through the match day experience again. We knew that there were good, honest people behind the scenes who had the best interests of Blackburn Rovers at heart. Our loyalty was to them too.

Sadly the feeling of being part of something special evaporated over the course of last season and the shenanigins over the last few days have really confirmed to us that we are right not to renew. Our collective shock and horror has galvanised us and our resilience will reamin until things change.

Blackburn Rovers are there now in name only to us and will remain so until there is a dramatic change. Only then will we return.

Pretty much summed up my thoughts and feelings although wasn't a ST holder (would miss too many games due to work.) Spot on in expressing how our club has been taken away from us.

Am I right in thinking that away game money still goes to the home team (even though buy from through the away team)? Am moving to Leeds in the summer, so should be a fair few away games within easy reach. Can then happily support the team though not the ***** of a manager, without giving the club money.

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I've always suspected we would be relegated at some point, ever since the Trustees stopped putting money in,

If I also believed that this was inevitable Simon, I would have renewed as well.

I understand the argument that by sticking with the Club you're simply putting money in Venky's pockets but I don't agree. I don't think the financial implications of fans renewing are that important to Venky's in the overall scheme of things. I do however feel that the more fans walk away from the Club, the less likely it is that we will ever find suitable alternative owners/investors.

Nothing to do with Money. I wouldn't support the actions of these idiots if it were free to get into the ground. It was obvious from the first few days/weeks to me - and some others, that these people would take the club into relegation territory. From the moment they said they could get us into the CL with £5m, a few loans and a few kids, - the sacking of Allardyce and replacing him with the marvellous Steve Kean - through to the dismantling of the clubs management structure - followed by the selling of players who's experience would have been fundamental to beating relegation, this day was bound to happen.

This wasn't inevitable, it was self inflicted and bordered on the criminal. It took them just 20 months to destroy what Jack Walker had spent years on, putting millions of his own cash and plenty of his own time into the club. He did that for the benefit of the club and it's fans. He wanted to build something lasting and something that the trustees should have taken more care of.

So I said that I was going to spend the summer watching and hoping that the Raos would change their ways. Since Monday night, the evidence points - not to changing their ways, - but rather to them cementing their ways. I wont support that in any way whatsoever. If they don't change then I'm gone - along with thousands of others. It's nothing to do with not wanting to line Venky's pockets.

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I know I keep posting the same kind of response on this thread but my reason for not renewing isn't fear of putting money in Venkys pockets as Rev has mentioned above. It is simply that I do not enjoy going at the moment. Why is that?

When we have struggled and even been relegated previously there has always been the feeling that the players, managers and owners were doing their best to achieve success for Rovers as a football club. Bad signings and bad decisions were made but that is football. You cursed them, went to the pub and moaned about them but lived with it in the hope it would improve. I still enjoyed matchdays and talking about Rovers even in defeat.

This season we have seen the side constructively ruined in order to cut costs and save the owners money. We have also seen replacements bought on the cheap. We have seen games where we have lost because we refuse to pick the best players, either due to contractual issues or Keans ego. We have seen games where stunningly bad tactical decisions have cost us (MGP at full back (twice !!) and the defend at all cost second half at Sunderland spring to mind). We have players that were fighting to survive in February and March spending the last two months going through the motions because, I believe, they know they are not playing with the best chance of getting results and can see that it would only lead to the inevitable (a bad attitude for rich footballers I admit).

However I can live with the above. I can still go and watch and support on a Saturday. I could still enjoy my matchdays and conversations with people about my club.

What I cannot bear is watching all of the above happening and yet having one man repeatedly lie and lie and lie to me everytime I see him open his mouth when I cam a paying customer of his. What I cannot stand is watching the above happening when I know that my thoughts and opinions of what i am watching will be patronised the minute when that one man opens his mouth. Venkeys are the problem. My head knows that. However it is my detest of Steve Kean that is stopping me at the moment buying a season ticket. I may waver when I feel calmer throughout the summer but at the moment unless Kean goes, I don't.

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