[Archived] Season Tickets 2012/13

[Ben-2000]

Well for those of you interested - ST's are available online and are still priced at last year's rates.

Not happy if they're sticking with that price after I bought the early bird in April!

[DE.]

As a recent defector to the non-renewers I'm pretty adverse to bringing principles or which side is right and which is wrong into it. To me its resolved into a simple case of can you put up with Venkean and what they're doing to our club anymore? Those who can fair enough, those who can't fair enough. The straw that broke my back was Kean's ridiculous "moving forwards" speech right after we got relegated. I expected an apology, and that infuriating nonsense made me want to...actually better not say it!

Agreed to an extent, though I cannot comprehend any reason for having a season ticket now. Having one is actively supporting the destruction of the club as far as I'm concerned - not passing judgement on anyone, but that's just the way I see it. Been a while since I've needed to make a decision about season tickets but I know enough people who do have that choice to make and to a man (and woman) they've said no more.

[Amo]

If the wum tries again he's gone

It looks like SamDingle...

....just got cained.

[Guest SuperAgentJB]

Again, you're not tackling my argument, you're trying to make it personal.

Give me a good, solid foundation for renewing this year other than "waaaa it's my choice, you dun understand!" So far you've said it gives you a chance to hurl abuse at the current incumbent. The people who don't give one brown nugget about the fans or their opinions.

Bad analogy. You see, the deaf man has no sense of sound on which to form an opinion of the Kaiser Chiefs and the quality of their music. I, however, have seen more than enough in the past year to know that renewing a season ticket at Ewood Park is a fool's errand. Unless, of course, you can prove otherwise?

Analogies have never been my strong point. Still, as you ask; the only reason to buy a season ticket for me is, it is part of my life. Always has been, always will be. Forgetting the argument of investing in the idiots or keeping local people in jobs..

You couldn't take me away from the place. So what if it seems masochistic to you, I would feel worse not being there.

This is highlights my point about your opinion on this subject. You don't have this connection to give up!

[47er]

Analogies have never been my strong point. Still, as you ask; the only reason to buy a season ticket for me is, it is part of my life. Always has been, always will be. Forgetting the argument of investing in the idiots or keeping local people in jobs..

You couldn't take me away from the place. So what if it seems masochistic to you, I would feel worse not being there.

This is highlights my point about your opinion on this subject. You don't have this connection to give up!

If you want to pay to watch untalented and appallingly managed players lose at Ewood every fortnight, no-one can stop you but we can criticize you for failing to see the bigger picture. It's a DISCUSSION board you see!

You can shout abuse at the manager and the owners (but don't take a banner in ----for safety reasons,and remember they own the ground.its private premises not yours. So, if you don't want to be searched on entry, that's tough).

However most have realized that you can shout all day at the likes of Kean, Agnew and Venkys but NO-ONE IS LISTENING.

[Rover_Shaun]

I have renewed for 25 years without a 2nd thought. Even in 99 when Kidd couldn't pick his nose I filled in my renewal the day it landed on my doorstep.

This year I didn't even open the envelope. It went from doormat to bin

[philipl]

Interesting they have gone back on sale at the early bird prices.

Mrs D had suggested a 40% price increase but obviously she has been faced down on this one.

[Rover_Shaun]

If only getting her to give Kean the bullet was as easy

[RibbleValleyRover]

Interesting they have gone back on sale at the early bird prices.

Looks like the club is worried, which they bloody well should be.

Is there any news on how many have been sold in total so far?

[philipl]

They are giving out refunds faster than they are selling new ones from what I hear.

After counting in cancelled direct debits the number is under 4,000 and going backwards.

[Rover_Shaun]

ST section of website shows no prices

[Veevs]

To take a slant on Rodgers words (and add an appropriate slant for our own situation) when he got the Liverpool job he said there are three types of fans..

1 - The ones who back the manager (club in our case) no matter

2 - the ones whoes respect you have to earn

3 - The ones who are always critics

As it stands even the type 1 fans are leaving in droves, surely this alone must be a sign that things are SO bad that something has to change.

As fans however we have to look at it both ways, there are always going to be fans who despite not liking what is going on will keep on going out of simple force of habit.. insulting them is not going to help matters it is put simply part of their nature and just a different way of living. So if they want to turn up to matches with attendances less than your average league 2 team why not let them.

Football is something we are all passionate about and I can understand both views in regards to season tickets but as Rovers fans we need to stick together and not mix up the one simple message, Venky/Kean/Agnew/JA out now, I am willing to bet there are less than 0.1% who want to still give them a go. So many are not renewing the argument is null and void anyway.

For me it is the club as a whole that worries me, not the opinion of a small majority of fans, in the next few months we are likely to loose fans from every corner of the world and that is a scary proposition as it took 15 years to build the worldwide fan base we have.

Remember one thing.. last week Villa changed their manager.. on Sat alone they sold 2k season tickets.. this is a club that retained its position in the league, have money to spend and a far bigger fan base... imagine the turnaround for us should the club be sold and a new manager put in, like in Norwich there is always a buzz because at the end of the day they KNOW that they have local home grown (but a little odd) owners and the buzz was bigger with Lambert aboard (the highest attendance records by far of the last 20 years and probably beyond happened last year).

[EWOODACE1]

i have had a ST for 20 years and have decided not to renew because i hated going for most of last season. not because of being relegated but because of everything else. when we where down under kidd i didnt even consider not renewing and i did and also enjoyed our time down there. i went to more away games than i ever have in the prem. but i cannot keep going whilst kean is in charge because all i feel is anger and watching inept tactics and knowing that nothing is ever going to done about it

not knowing what the hell is going on behind the scenes and why decisions (or lack of) are being made.

why a manager like this horrible man is held in such high regard when he has done so much to dicredit himself

now i am reading some of our fans are calling people who have not renewed. someone said its a measly £250. thats not the point. it wouldnt mattter how much our ST prices are, i would renew as i feel a lot of others would.

for the people who have renewed i would never call you for it even though things are bad so why would you call us. to say that we should go no matter what is happening is ridiculas. im sick of hearing that we will be here whilst they are here and we will be here afterwards. thats fine in your eyes but not in the majority which says a lot

if kean is sacked (which doesnt look likely) i will renew straight away even though i hate our owners ill be there as long as its a correct appointment and not some indian businessman who has done well turning a company around in india.

i hope we have our club back in the near future because it is killing me knowing i wont be there next season

[sambo]

I still haven't even be sent a renewal pack. Nor do I want one.

[Beta Ray Bill]

They are giving out refunds faster than they are selling new ones from what I hear.

After counting in cancelled direct debits the number is under 4,000 and going backwards.

If tickets weren't on sale (or noone knew they were), 1 refund will equate to being 'faster' than selling new ones.

Doesn't take an ITK to work that out.

[Kamy100]

This morning's LT is running the Season Ticket Farce as their backpage lead.

Basically saying that Rovers are the only club in the 4 divisions not selling season tickets at present, and the ticket office told them that tickets cannot be purchased at present and asked that they contact them again in a couple of weeks! It really is a farce, just another example of the meltdown at Ewood and why I genuinely fear for our future existence if this is allowed to continue for much longer, if they are mismanaging a relatively simple function such as season ticket sales, I shudder to think of what is happening to the vital business functions.

[OJRovers]

Shows how little they care about the fans.

Not that anyone wants to buy one now anyway.

[47er]

If tickets weren't on sale (or noone knew they were), 1 refund will equate to being 'faster' than selling new ones.

Doesn't take an ITK to work that out.

You don't have to be ITK to know that this isn't happening at any of the other 90+ clubs in England either.Therefore its worth pointing out.

[thenodrog]

This morning's LT is running the Season Ticket Farce as their backpage lead.

Basically saying that Rovers are the only club in the 4 divisions not selling season tickets at present, and the ticket office told them that tickets cannot be purchased at present and asked that they contact them again in a couple of weeks! It really is a farce, just another example of the meltdown at Ewood and why I genuinely fear for our future existence if this is allowed to continue for much longer, if they are mismanaging a relatively simple function such as season ticket sales, I shudder to think of what is happening to the vital business functions.

Are we being guilty of tunnel vision? Lets not continue to register shock and incredulity, lets not continually think of the entire slumdog regime as stupid and foolish, the fat controller certainly isn't so lets attempt to analyse...

For any other relegated clubs media income immediately takes on a two year shelf life and the supporters become No 1 priority as an income stream. We do know that they were very important to Willaims and the Trust. Obviously with the current regime the past actions and current indications of whoever is in charge (and none of us have any real idea who that might be) suggest confirm that retaining fans long term and the resultant ticket and merchandising income from them is quite clearly unimportant.

So what is? What outweighs ticket money especially now that the media revenue has taken a terminal hit?

All I can readily think of are...

1. Parachute payments.

2. Revenue from player trading.

3. Revenue from the sales of remaining assets.

4. Betting?

5. Laundering.

Whichever it is and unless someone can offer something else then if the fans are not regarded as important the overriding message is that this has become a short term business plan. What in business is known as a 'Stop loss' plan or on here a 'Gorge on what you can from the carcass and get tf out' policy.

Not often I stick hat pins into dolls to wish a slow and particularly unpleasant death on anybody but I might soon make half a dozen exceptions.

[bob fleming]

For any other relegated clubs media income immediately takes on a two year shelf life and the supporters become No 1 priority as an income stream. We do know that they were very important to Willaims and the Trust. Obviously with the current regime the past actions and current indications of whoever is in charge (and none of us have any real idea who that might be) suggest confirm that retaining fans long term and the resultant ticket and merchandising income from them is quite clearly unimportant.

So what is? What outweighs ticket money especially now that the media revenue has taken a terminal hit?

All I can readily think of are...

1. Parachute payments.

2. Revenue from player trading.

3. Revenue from the sales of remaining assets.

4. Betting?

5. Laundering.

Whichever it is and unless someone can offer something else then if the fans are not regarded as important the overriding message is that this has become a short term business plan. What in business is known as a 'Stop loss' plan or on here a 'Gorge on what you can from the carcass and get tf out' policy.

Brilliant summary Gordon.

Foe those arguing over the rights and wrongs of buying a season ticket the above sums it all up. They quite clearly don't give a damn either way about our support or money. Not one iota. You can't even buy one if you wanted to! There's clearly more money out there from "other" areas.

It's now blatantly obvious to even the most disinterested Premier League / FA / Football League chief that what is going on at Blackburn Rovers is totally underhand. Wherever they see fit to actually do anything about it time will tell. Maybe the Sports Minister will act if he can pull himself away from watching Greece v Czech Republic for five minutes.

Again we can only hope that progress is being made behind the scenes by Seneca and/or BRSIT.

[DE.]

This morning's LT is running the Season Ticket Farce as their backpage lead.

Basically saying that Rovers are the only club in the 4 divisions not selling season tickets at present, and the ticket office told them that tickets cannot be purchased at present and asked that they contact them again in a couple of weeks! It really is a farce, just another example of the meltdown at Ewood and why I genuinely fear for our future existence if this is allowed to continue for much longer, if they are mismanaging a relatively simple function such as season ticket sales, I shudder to think of what is happening to the vital business functions.

Surely more ammo for Glen etc to take to the prem/FA as proof that these idiots are not fit and proper people to be running a football club. They're neglecting it to the point of total meltdown - how can the football authorities just stand by and watch this happen?

[thenodrog]

Surely more ammo for Glen etc to take to the prem/FA as proof that these idiots are not fit and proper people to be running a football club. They're neglecting it to the point of total meltdown - how can the football authorities just stand by and watch this happen?

Small club and 220 miles of Mway. Same as just about everything else.

[DE.]

Small club and 220 miles of Mway. Same as just about everything else.

Normally I'd concur but what's happening at our club is unprecedented - there's never been anything like this before that I can remember. Even in the case of Portsmouth there was still an operational board and season tickets etc were still being processed accordingly.

Small northern club or not, there's no excuse for not stepping in at this point. Should Rovers go to the wall over this history won't look back kindly on the FA/Prem for letting it happen, and I imagine the quote of "Venky's have done nothing wrong" will come back to haunt them.

[Roversider]

This morning's LT is running the Season Ticket Farce as their backpage lead.

Basically saying that Rovers are the only club in the 4 divisions not selling season tickets at present, and the ticket office told them that tickets cannot be purchased at present and asked that they contact them again in a couple of weeks! It really is a farce, just another example of the meltdown at Ewood and why I genuinely fear for our future existence if this is allowed to continue for much longer, if they are mismanaging a relatively simple function such as season ticket sales, I shudder to think of what is happening to the vital business functions.

Thank heavens we have a General Manager who knows the town, is steeped in its traditions, has the full confidence of the Board, he's a member of the board, he is devoting himself to the club ............. oh, and he's disappeared at a critical time on his holidays. Now that brings a whole new meaning to the word 'ironic'. Perhaps the management of a ticketing operation is one of those things that Paul Agnew suggested was beyond his control, I'm not even certain he could control his bowels at the moment.

[mhead]

This kind of farce helps our case,rather than the 'chairs on the Titanic' movements of the last few weeks.

The Back Pages of the LT are very important,cos it shows the widespread concern.

IT MAY HAVE TO GET WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER !