[Archived] Season Tickets 2012/13

[Roversider]

For those who don't go ( the vast majority anyway) its about putting love of Rovers on hold, not about abandoning them. its done in the hope of bringing back the real Rovers before its too late. Its an act of loyalty in fact.

I don't disagree with your sentiments but it is a matter of opinion as to whether those who stop attending will return. History and experience show that the vast majority do not come back. It is, in my opinion, wishful thinking on your part but I do hope you are right.

[thenodrog]

I'm not up to speed. Why is Roversmum getting so much stick?

Surely the only people who support Kean are Agnew, Venkys and Mrs Kean?

Some were quick to spot the wood from the trees, some a little later, some were very reluctant, some were dazzled by celebrity status... and some still haven't .... mind you most of the latter have ###### off in shame thank goodness.

[PAFELL]

I'm not up to speed. Why is Roversmum getting so much stick?

Surely the only people who support Kean are Agnew, Venkys and Mrs Kean?

I think it is because she gave support to venkys or kean at one stage. I think she went over to Pune with other supporters. But roversmum does not deserve the stick that has come her way. After all many were willing to give venkys and kean a chance at the beginning. Many lived in hope they would get their act together. But it never happened.

It is venkys and kean who screwed up the chance supporters gave them - not the supporters.

The time is long overdue imo, people should lay off giving roversmum this undeserved stick.

[jim mk2]

For those who don't go ( the vast majority anyway) its about putting love of Rovers on hold, not about abandoning them. its done in the hope of bringing back the real Rovers before its too late. Its an act of loyalty in fact.

You know as well as I do from the experience post 1960 that the stay-aways won't return. In my view I'd rather see people showing their loyalty by continuing to attend and busting their lungs shouting for Venk'ys and Kean to go like the end of last season which certainly united the fans in one voice against these despicable people. I know protesting hasn't had any effect so far but staying away in some sort of silent protest is unlikely to work either as there will always about 5,000 diehards on Ewood.

The Walker era saw our average crowds go from about 10,000 to the mid- 20,000s. Staying away and encouraging others to do so will see crowds return to the 10,000 level or less of the 1980s and likely to stay there.

[47er]

You know as well as I do from the experience post 1960 that the stay-aways won't return. In my view I'd rather see people showing their loyalty by continuing to attend and busting their lungs shouting for Venk'ys and Kean to go like the end of last season which certainly united the fans in one voice against these despicable people. I know protesting hasn't had any effect so far but staying away in some sort of silent protest is unlikely to work either as there will always about 5,000 diehards on Ewood.

The Walker era saw our average crowds go from about 10,000 to the mid- 20,000s. Staying away and encouraging others to do so will see crowds return to the 10,000 level or less of the 1980s and likely to stay there.

Jim----you're wasting your time. Many people who have no intention presently of boycotting will end up doing so following 2 or 3 trips to "the Ewood experience".

If you love Rovers------stay away. Channel your love for them through other outlets. This time will pass.

[jim mk2]

If you love Rovers------stay away. Channel your love for them through other outlets. This time will pass.

I know this time will eventually pass and the cancer will have left the club but I'm worried about the empty shell that will be left behind. Staying away is just going to make it worse in my view and show the outside world that fans do not care.

[Mattyblue]

You forget 47er that most fans arent like us.

They don't spend their days on brfcs, Twitter, sportingintelligence.com.

They won't actively be boycotting with a view to returning, they'll just drift away and never come back.

[47er]

I know this time will eventually pass and the cancer will have left the club but I'm worried about the empty shell that will be left behind. Staying away is just going to make it worse in my view and show the outside world that fans do not care.

We have thousands of fans who care so much they can't go.

Stuff what the world thinks

[47er]

You forget 47er that most fans arent like us.

They don't spend their days on brfcs, Twitter, sportingintelligence.com.

They won't actively be boycotting with a view to returning, they'll just drift away and never come back.

I don't see how anything can prevent what's going to happen. You haven't got a solution have you?

They'll come back if we reform and give them something to support. Starts with the exit of Kean and Venkys--- the sooner it happens the sooner the healing process begins.

The more people who attend, the longer they'll be around.

Sorry, that's my view and I won't change on it. However I will shut up and give others a chance!

[thenodrog]

You know as well as I do from the experience post 1960 that the stay-aways won't return. In my view I'd rather see people showing their loyalty by continuing to attend and busting their lungs shouting for Venk'ys and Kean to go like the end of last season which certainly united the fans in one voice against these despicable people. I know protesting hasn't had any effect so far but staying away in some sort of silent protest is unlikely to work either as there will always about 5,000 diehards on Ewood.

The Walker era saw our average crowds go from about 10,000 to the mid- 20,000s. Staying away and encouraging others to do so will see crowds return to the 10,000 level or less of the 1980s and likely to stay there.

I think it will be worse should we sink to Div 1. Remember the economics and demographics of the town are massively different than in the 80's.

However imo the biggest worry is impending bankruptcy when and if the requirements for wages etc are not met. As far as players wages even with a gearing to Championship levels (if they exist in all contracts) I think BRFC ST revenue is a drop in the ocean. Lets be honest 10,000 more empty seats @£200 each is still only 2m!

btw Does anybody know if we still have the parachute payments are untouched or whether they have been used for other purposes? If so and if the Slumdogs aren't willing to subsidise the club (as seems to be a stupid but obligatory requirement from football club owners these days) then the buffers are fast approaching.

A minor point should the unthinkable happen and the shutters come down ST's will of course be invalid with no hope of a refund. Their only use will be to show to the turnstiles at the likes of Bury (i think) to gain a discount from normal admission prices. I'd imagine one or two other local clubs would do likewise.

[jim mk2]

The more people who attend, the longer they'll be around.

I think the more people who attend and continue to protest, the more likely the owners will leave. The protests at the end of last season were stirring and showed genuine passion for the club - to my mind for those protesters simply to melt away will be a sign the fans have given up and the owners and Kean have won.

Of course I still contend the protests do not go far enough and to be really effective and gain national and worldwide attention would involve (according to some) "illegal activities". All I would say is that if thousands took part police and stewards would be unable to act. These "illegal activities" were very effective 40 years ago and can be so again.

[stuwilky]

A minor point should the unthinkable happen and the shutters come down ST's will of course be invalid with no hope of a refund. Their only use will be to show to the turnstiles at the likes of Bury (i think) to gain a discount from normal admission prices. I'd imagine one or two other local clubs would do likewise.

Should that happen those paying on a credit card with have redress under S.75 of the CCA. The rest of us are knackered. Including those paying by DD, who may well have to keep paying........

[Kelbo]

Should that happen those paying on a credit card with have redress under S.75 of the CCA. The rest of us are knackered. Including those paying by DD, who may well have to keep paying........

You can cancel a direct debit at any time!!

[Roversider]

A minor point should the unthinkable happen and the shutters come down ST's will of course be invalid with no hope of a refund. Their only use will be to show to the turnstiles at the likes of Bury (i think) to gain a discount from normal admission prices. I'd imagine one or two other local clubs would do likewise.

Whether a season ticket is still valid is down to any Administrator. The chances of the club folding mid-season are very small. It's true that at other clubs eg Bradford long-term deals spanning several seasons were reneged on.

As has already been said credit card protection covers those who bought that way and direct debits can be stopped (contrary to popular belief) as in this case the vendor would have broken their side of the contract.

So the risk of losing your money on a season ticket is a very low one and so it's a spurious argument to use to discourage a purchase.

[davulsukur]

You can cancel a direct debit at any time!!

Don't think you would wanna just cancel the DD. I would imagine that you would land yourself in trouble if you did, i would check the small print in the season ticket terms and conditions.

[Rover_Shaun]

I think the more people who attend and continue to protest, the more likely the owners will leave. The protests at the end of last season were stirring and showed genuine passion for the club -

Fat lot of good that did Jim

Remind be again what has gone on since the Wigan game to rectify the situation?

Kean back slapper and Venky yes man running Ewood

Kean still in charge

Shebby Singh riding in on his white charger to re-sign Grabbia and Dailly to save us all

[Kelbo]

Don't think you would wanna just cancel the DD. I would imagine that you would land yourself in trouble if you did, i would check the small print in the season ticket terms and conditions.

Small print or not, a direct debit is an agreement with the bank to release funds from your account, you can I assure you cancel at any time, there may be recourse if the contract with Rovers says otherwise but they would lose in court as they have broken the contract in so much as, they would not be able to fulfil their obligations under the said terms.

[Exiled in Toronto]

Fully agree Tom. Last Saturday I took my 8 month old granddaughter swimming and her shrieking, laughing, general delight and happiness gave me far more enjoyment than I had at any game at Ewood last season. And I didn't have feelings of anger and misgivings to contend with. So for me it's a season ticket for Darwen baths.

Mrs Scholes must have retired then, because I don't remember any fun there!

[Exiled in Toronto]

I think the more people who attend and continue to protest, the more likely the owners will leave. The protests at the end of last season were stirring and showed genuine passion for the club - to my mind for those protesters simply to melt away will be a sign the fans have given up and the owners and Kean have won.

Of course I still contend the protests do not go far enough and to be really effective and gain national and worldwide attention would involve (according to some) "illegal activities". All I would say is that if thousands took part police and stewards would be unable to act. These "illegal activities" were very effective 40 years ago and can be so again.

I completely agree. Not attending might be a personal choice on how to spend one's time and money but it also completely removes the fans in question from the battlefield.

Ghandi's passive protesting wasn't going shopping with his wife.

The ground-wide "We want Venky's out" and the chicken did more for the cause than everything else put together imo.

[Kelbo]

Fat lot of good that did Jim

Remind be again what has gone on since the Wigan game to rectify the situation?

Kean back slapper and Venky yes man running Ewood

Kean still in charge

Shebby Singh riding in on his white charger to re-sign Grabbia and Dailly to save us all

Surely you mean his Elephant!!

[davulsukur]

Small print or not, a direct debit is an agreement with the bank to release funds from your account, you can I assure you cancel at any time, there may be recourse if the contract with Rovers says otherwise but they would lose in court as they have broken the contract in so much as, they would not be able to fulfil their obligations under the said terms.

My bad, i should of read the post a bit further up about the club going under. Apologies.

[PAFELL]

I think the more people who attend and continue to protest, the more likely the owners will leave. The protests at the end of last season were stirring and showed genuine passion for the club - to my mind for those protesters simply to melt away will be a sign the fans have given up and the owners and Kean have won.

Of course I still contend the protests do not go far enough and to be really effective and gain national and worldwide attention would involve (according to some) "illegal activities". All I would say is that if thousands took part police and stewards would be unable to act. These "illegal activities" were very effective 40 years ago and can be so again.

The first person the Police would come for is somebody like you. Putting on a public forum what can easily be considered an encouragement to commit illegal acts, is a crime in itself.

The protests have already highlighted the situation world wide. Meetings have been held with the prem. Now wednesday the football league. The media have taken the situation up as have the MP's. The protests have moved others to take interest in the situation. But it has not moved venkys or Kean.

From what I can see, protest or not, attend matches or not. highlighting the situation in the media or not, does not seem to affect venkys at all. It may make them feel uncomfortable - but they have not gone or even changed the way they do things. They know they could sell the club, yet still not done so.

The only thing I think will work is legal action of some sort. But for that to happen, evidence is needed of illegal activity. Which I believe will be found. They will not walk away from the club they will be dragged out by court action. But to me going for venkys is not enough. I want every single person or organisation who have allowed the situation to happen to be punished. But by legal methords.

[Athlete]

The first person the Police would come for is somebody like you. Putting on a public forum what can easily be considered an encouragement to commit illegal acts, is a crime in itself.

The protests have already highlighted the situation world wide. Meetings have been held with the prem. Now wednesday the football league. The media have taken the situation up as have the MP's. The protests have moved others to take interest in the situation. But it has not moved venkys or Kean.

From what I can see, protest or not, attend matches or not. highlighting the situation in the media or not, does not seem to affect venkys at all. It may make them feel uncomfortable - but they have not gone or even changed the way they do things. They know they could sell the club, yet still not done so.

The only thing I think will work is legal action of some sort. But for that to happen, evidence is needed of illegal activity. Which I believe will be found. They will not walk away from the club they will be dragged out by court action. But to me going for venkys is not enough. I want every single person or organisation who have allowed the situation to happen to be punished. But by legal methords.

agree no amount of protests , fly overs , marches, meetings , etc means anything to them they are a few thousand mile away not giving a flying F*** if they own the club 100% they can legally do what they want with it ( thats the situation we are in ) something needs to be found that something untoward has happened which 99% of people certainly suspect even fans of other clubs to make them force a sale or relenquish the club along with Charlatan Coco

[arbitro]

Mrs Scholes must have retired then, because I don't remember any fun there!

Memories of Darwen schooldays with the mention of Mrs Scholey. She frightened more Darwen school children than the whole of the teachers together. With her tyrannical ways though it was literally sink or swim John!

[47er]

Memories of Darwen schooldays with the mention of Mrs Scholey. She frightened more Darwen school children than the whole of the teachers together. With her tyrannical ways though it was literally sink or swim John!

Wow------I haven't heard that name for a while!