[Archived] Season Tickets 2012/13

[ABBEY]

Hallelujah! A well respected member of this board recognising the point I was banging on about last year. The fact is the 'clever' stuff is taking place far away from Ewood. It is the footballing authorities, courts and Mumbai press that will force a change to the situation ... not swamping Ewood in an even deeper ocean of negativity.

3rd time of asking.

1.are you proud of your "mates'" acheivements thus far?

2. where you wrong or were the tremblers right in their/our predictions?

3.How many divisions do we need to slide before you became a non Venkyite?

[Paul]

You are running with the hare and hunting with the hounds Paul. By your own admission but for your devotion to Tom you would not have renewed, therefore your comments are a little hollow aren't they?

Not at all. I've put my son's pleasure ahead of my own views which have changed in recent weeks. Without Tom's influence I would probably stop and conceivably not go back. I can't really answer because there isn't a question.

The point is the attitude expressed towards renewers is such that it further increased my alienation from football in general (thanks Sky) and now Rovers. Each makes their decision but those who chose not to renew should not abuse renewers as it simply widens the enormous gulf created by the Raos.

The reality is nothing has changed, nothing will change and our one hope of illegal activity being shown, which would significantly help, grows less likely by the day. We are stuck with these owners until they chose to leave. Realistically no one will buy the club so when or how they leave remains a huge question

[broadsword]

This is nothing personal against Paul, but I sometimes read his posts and want to get the razor blades out.

I agree that the Raos have succeeded in turning fan against fan, and that's not nice to see.

I only hope that this nightmare is over soon, but conceivably we could have a decade of it in front of us.

[47er]

This is nothing personal against Paul, but I sometimes read his posts and want to get the razor blades out.

I agree that the Raos have succeeded in turning fan against fan, and that's not nice to see.

I only hope that this nightmare is over soon, but conceivably we could have a decade of it in front of us.

+1. How anyone cannot see that people can be Rovers till they die but not attend in protest at the owners who are ruining the Club is beyond me.

[m1st]

+1. How anyone cannot see that people can be Rovers till they die but not attend in protest at the owners who are ruining the Club is beyond me.

Hear, hear. I sang "RTID" many times at the games I attended last season but I won't be at any games this season; I'm Rovers till I die; just not "Venky's-owned, Kean-managed Rovers".

[Mattyblue]

The term 'tremblers', as you well know, was directed at match day protesters who ultimatly failed in their aims but where far from being a benign influence on the ensuing relagation fight.

So, if we'd have sang 'Rovers Rovers ra ra ra' till the bitter end, we'd have stayed up?

[rigger]

Great post.

The reference to "rovers till I die" sums up my feelings entirely. The indians don't care if I am at Ewood or not. The only people it will affect is the players. Who wants to play for a team with no fans?... Oh and the media will slate us, not because we are being run into the ground by fools, but because we have "cheap" fans who don't wanna watch second tier football.

I know the hurt it has caused after the last 18 months - it burns because it was so avoidable, and the circus just gets worse. But this is not a reason to pack it in. If you want to boycott the venkys pockets then go to some away games. The players (whoever they might be) are still wearing that shirt that sends shivers down the spines of the young rovers - I will still enjoy getting behind them. It's almost escapism. If I sat at home, I'd be more stressed not giving my support.

I am more along the lines of "Rovers till they died", and fook what the media say.

[Stuart]

Hallelujah! A well respected member of this board recognising the point I was banging on about last year. The fact is the 'clever' stuff is taking place far away from Ewood. It is the footballing authorities, courts and Mumbai press that will force a change to the situation ... not swamping Ewood in an even deeper ocean of negativity.

I have to assume this is a joke post.

If there was no unrest at Ewood and everyone was happy, there would be no need for any 'clever' stuff.

People, like your good self, need to realise that we are all in this together, instead of pontificating at those on the ground from their Ivory Tower.

Those who renew are keeping the club ticking over whilst those who abstain make their statements by "staying away UNTIL the club is rid of Venkys and Kean". If supporters intend to "come back" then, without the renewers, there might be nothing to come back to.

[DE.]

Those who renew are keeping the club ticking over whilst those who abstain make their statements by "staying away UNTIL the club is rid of Venkys and Kean". If supporters intend to "come back" then, without the renewers, there might be nothing to come back to.

I see what you're saying Stuart, but I'm increasingly of the opinion that whatever is happening goes so far beyond normal parameters that no matter what decision people make re: season tickets it won't make a blind bit of difference to the ultimate fate of the club.

[K-Hod]

Great post.

The reference to "rovers till I die" sums up my feelings entirely. The indians don't care if I am at Ewood or not. The only people it will affect is the players. Who wants to play for a team with no fans?... Oh and the media will slate us, not because we are being run into the ground by fools, but because we have "cheap" fans who don't wanna watch second tier football.

I know the hurt it has caused after the last 18 months - it burns because it was so avoidable, and the circus just gets worse. But this is not a reason to pack it in. If you want to boycott the venkys pockets then go to some away games. The players (whoever they might be) are still wearing that shirt that sends shivers down the spines of the young rovers - I will still enjoy getting behind them. It's almost escapism. If I sat at home, I'd be more stressed not giving my support.

For some it's a case of Rovers 'til I die *terms and conditions apply*.....

[LDRover]

First 'official' protest was against Arsenal, a game we subsequently won. Protest before Swansea, game won, 24 hour protest before Fulham, game won.

I fail to see how the so called 'tremblers' were in any way to blame for performances leading to relegation especially when you consider these games saw us collect nearly a third of our total points tally.

It's also worth noting that the real 'Kean/Venkys abuse from the crowd was totally spontaneous and from 90% of those attending. Bolton, West Brom and Wigan spring to mind...no organised protest there.

[Rover_Shaun]

If you want to go then go but personally Venky's, Kean and our 'rubber dinghy men' squad can kiss my arse

[roverandout]

ewood spark is a grade A prick who has no other interest on here than to wind people up and play devil's advocate, i stopped bothering getting worked up over his posts months ago, he only ever seems to come on when there is nothing bad happening, when rovers win (rare i know) he is on here crowing to the 'tremblers' and when rovers lose, he is nowhere to be seen.

[ABBEY]

First 'official' protest was against Arsenal, a game we subsequently won. Protest before Swansea, game won, 24 hour protest before Fulham, game won.

I fail to see how the so called 'tremblers' were in any way to blame for performances leading to relegation especially when you consider these games saw us collect nearly a third of our total points tally.

It's also worth noting that the real 'Kean/Venkys abuse from the crowd was totally spontaneous and from 90% of those attending. Bolton, West Brom and Wigan spring to mind...no organised protest there.

spot on , he would rather blame the fans than blame the people he adores.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

This is going round in circles.

Some feel they are helping the greater good of the club by boycotting, cut off the finance at source.

Some feel they need to carry on attending to support the team, if not those running the club.

Either way, we can't lose track of who we are fighting.

I agree but this one will roll on right up to the start of the season.

The renewers are annoyed at the non-renewers because they don't want them to turn Ewood into a ghost town.

The non-renewers are annoyed at the renewers because they don't want them to blunt the impact of their financial protest.

There's been plenty of insults on both sides though, and jibes like trembling floaters (never had one of those before) show its hardly one-way.

[bob fleming]

trembling floaters (never had one of those before)

Never been to the Khyber?

[gumboots]

If you want to go then go but personally Venky's, Kean and our 'rubber dinghy men' squad can kiss my arse

personally i don't want any of them that close to me.

[thenodrog]

I only hope that this nightmare is over soon, but conceivably we could have a decade of it in front of us.

I don't think there is a cat in hells chance of that happening. imo the club is plunging head first into bankruptcy.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Do what YOU feel is neccessary to bring about a successful outcome to this awful situation we have at the club...its down to personal choice.

[broadsword]

I don't think there is a cat in hells chance of that happening. imo the club is plunging head first into bankruptcy.

Could well be. To be honest, I'd regard that as a merciful release, and I'm sure a few others would too.

Anything but this slow painful death.

[Ossydave]

Do what YOU feel is neccessary to bring about a successful outcome to this awful situation we have at the club...its down to personal choice.

And that ladies and gentlemen concludes the topic! Well said.

[Ewood Spark]

1) People keep on harping on about how 'this is not our Rovers any more' .... 'the cub has changed beyond recognition'. Well, during my 40 years of support there have been a couple of times when Rovers have undergone huge change. This period is one of them. The other one was when they knocked the old Blackburn End terrace down and started to break the transfer record every Thursday! That period bore absolutely no resemblance to the previous twenty years I had 'endured'. Despite the 'change' I didn't walk away then ... and I won't now.

How very noble of you not to walk away as Jack built the club up from second division also rans to premier league champions.

However the 'change' we are going through now isn't quite the same, as well you know.

Strange, I read it that ES didnt walk out when we were in the lower reaches of the league pre-Jack. Still I guess I read it with a more receptive mind.

Apologies for not getting back to you sooner on this Roversider ... been a busy boy at work today. Anyway, to be fair to BRFC95 his interpretation of my original point was pretty much 'on the money' ... BUT ... he seems to have completely missed the subtle parable embedded in it.

ps Message to Gordon if you are still up at this ungodly hour trawling through my history looking for 'contradictions'.... "Give it up son ... there is nothing there!"

[ABBEY]

No reply to mine then?

[Ewoodbhappy]

Ive not renewed but Will be attending as many away games as possible, to express my thoughts on Kean.

To stop all conspiracy theories Venkys simply need to sack Kean. That's what his record deserves.

If that happens I will be at Ewood next match. I'm sure lots of fans would do the same. Not being fickle in any way shape or form.

[Kettledrum]

I don't think there is a cat in hells chance of that happening. imo the club is plunging head first into bankruptcy.

cash flow problems could lead to administration could force a sale (like at Rangers). The longer this is delayed, the more money the owners can suck out of the club. Looking at the amounts quoted for the sale of Rangers, it's obvious that the value of Rovers is much less than when it was bought by the current owners.

Since the club is now worth much less, the owners can not make a profit through the sale of the club, so the way they could try and maximise their profits is by more asset stripping.

.... so why would you buy a season ticket to help the owners' cash flows and to prolong the period when they can take money out of the business?