[Archived] Season Tickets 2012/13

[jim mk2]

Why didn't the interviewer challenge Agnew over the "non-renewers" ? Any decent journalist would be able to destroy the spin of the likes of Agnew because he does not have the intellectual capacity to counter it. Another opportunity missed by the local media.

[JAL]

The strategy Agnew laid out on Radio Lancashire tonight that 80% would return if they started well, 10% have already been lost and 10% will renew no matter what totally puzzled me. If they start well the season ticket prices will be higher, won't that put supporters off? Why discard the 10% who have been loyal for years and years before this invasion and why take the 10% for granted. It really was as if the supporters don't really matter to them, sad to hear but totally expected.

If Agnew along with Shaw had a plan to bring many a Preston North End supporter to the Rovers and merge or marry the two, now that would be an ingenious plan, but he hasnt, has he, he s just screwing for all its worth right now with no forward plan whatsoever...... the barstewards.

[roverandout]

not missed, they just didnt want to rock the boat, pandering to their 'employers' of the very highest order

[JAL]

I'll be at many away games with my " Kean and Venyks Out" t-shirt......home games not a chance until those chicken fools and rent boy Coco have gone. Not a penny more in Venkys grabbing mitts.

How do we the Rovers supporters face the Burnley game with our very own fifth columnists sitting in OUR dugout and in the directors seats my how the Rovers fan (everyone of us) is up against it in this game.

We live on the slimmest of hopes that the players can do it for us, but the scottish useless one has selected them .......oh dear!

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

The strategy Agnew laid out on Radio Lancashire tonight that 80% would return if they started well, 10% have already been lost and 10% will renew no matter what totally puzzled me. If they start well the season ticket prices will be higher, won't that put supporters off? Why discard the 10% who have been loyal for years and years before this invasion and why take the 10% for granted. It really was as if the supporters don't really matter to them, sad to hear but totally expected.

So they are writing off a large number of supporters - as their insist on persisting with Kean - our chances of a good start are clearly diminished.

[had.e.nuff]

Do we take it from the statement that 10% will renew come what may,that this is how many season tickets they have sold 10% of about 16,000 is only 1600

[Exiled_Rover]

It's clear from Agnew's interview this evening that the club are labelling the 'non-renewers' as fickle glory hunters.

With him saying "if we start well they will come back" shows how they've dressed up the non renewals to the owners.

Winning or not I won't be back til Kean goes.

What glory have Rovers had in the last decade?

[Ben-2000]

Well, i'm in Mr Agnew's 10% blind loyalty club... however despite always admitting I would always renew no matter what, I did have one or two niggling doubts over the last couple of months... but I have stuck with my original decision and will be there next season.

His refusal to acknowledge Kean's part in people not renewing is either delusional or a case of trying to deflect the attention away fom him (I strongly suspect the latter). The fact that all I read on messageboards, Facebook etc is that he is the main reason for people staying away, together with the fact that (as it stands) I am the only one out of a group of 4 of us who stand together that has renewed tells it's own story. Basically, depressing.

[OJRovers]

What glory have Rovers had in the last decade?

Exactly

I bet that Agnew and co have 'mis-laid' the renewal stats from last time we went down. Under proper management there wasn't a massive drop off even with relegation.

[Tom10K]

To be fair last time we were relegated the average attendance dropped from 25773 to 19253 and crowds only really picked back up when Souness took over. More worrying is that we have already dropped from 25000 to 22551 when comparing the last two seasons, it seems we have already lost 3000 supporters before being relegated.

[Tom]

As much as I want to make a stand I can see me wobbling come August.

I don't know if I can just cut that part of my life out, tomorrow we move to Cherry Tree, a ten minute walk from Ewood making it harder than ever.

All this would be academic for me if they just got rid of Kean

[JAL]

As much as I want to make a stand I can see me wobbling come August.

I don't know if I can just cut that part of my life out, tomorrow we move to Cherry Tree, a ten minute walk from Ewood making it harder than ever.

All this would be academic for me if they just got rid of Kean

Stand firm and be strong Tom

[Tom]

Stand firm and be strong Tom

I know what you mean but it's a balancing act isn't it?

Is it for 'the greater good' or am I biting my nose off to spite my face?

Anyone got any more cliches I could borrow?

[DE.]

It doesn't really matter what you choose, Tom, the club is falling into the abyss either way. Do whatever makes you feel happy.

[den]

Can only speak for myself Tom, but I'm not trying to prove a point to the Raos or trying to drive Kean out. I simply wont have anything to do with the way they're running the club into the ground. To my mind, putting your attendance in as well as putting your cash in is supporting them. That's just a fact. Not renewing is easy under these circumstances. There's no way on earth that I'll be seen at Ewood while that **** is stood on the touchline.

I hate the guy.

[gumboots]

Exactly what i said to a wavring colleague yesterday - just cose your eyes and thik of kean standing on the touchline, licking his lips, looking clueless. Not renewing suddenly gets a lot easier.

[Steve Moss]

Exactly what i said to a wavering colleague yesterday - just cose your eyes and thik of kean standing on the touchline, licking his lips, looking clueless. Not renewing suddenly gets a lot easier.

Wisdom.

[arbitro]

Exactly what i said to a wavring colleague yesterday - just cose your eyes and thik of kean standing on the touchline, licking his lips, looking clueless. Not renewing suddenly gets a lot easier.

Absolutely right for me. Hate is a strong word but it is the only word I can use to describe my feelings towards the imposter. And that goes for the other four season ticket holding members of my family who feel exactly the same way. Agnews comments added fuel to my fire yesterday and my determination not to go was strengthened tenfold.

NEVER forget and certainly NEVER forgive.

[Ewood Spark]

Well, i'm in Mr Agnew's 10% blind loyalty club... however despite always admitting I would always renew no matter what, I did have one or two niggling doubts over the last couple of months... but I have stuck with my original decision and will be there next season.

His refusal to acknowledge Kean's part in people not renewing is either delusional or a case of trying to deflect the attention away fom him (I strongly suspect the latter). The fact that all I read on messageboards, Facebook etc is that he is the main reason for people staying away, together with the fact that (as it stands) I am the only one out of a group of 4 of us who stand together that has renewed tells it's own story. Basically, depressing.

Ben, the fact is that if Kean had been successful nobody on here would have noticed his "personality traits". Look at managers like Alex Ferguson or even Kenny Dalgleish .... not endearing characters by any stretch of the imagination .... but as long as they are winning games their personalities don't come into it. Because of the poor results some non-renewers have translated Kean's lack of tactical acumen, stubbornness and positivity into descriptions such as 'scum', 'lying' or even 'evil' !! Would they have noticed these 'character defects' if we had finished top half of the table last season? If other non-renewers don't fall into this bracket .... and are staying away for purely 'football reasons' .... then perhaps Agnew was right and a winning start to the new campaign will sway those fans.

[Mattyblue]

Really ES? We lose thousands of ST holders, but win a few games and they are begging to be allowed to buy one? That didn't happen with a happy ship in the PL, it sure as hell won't happen now.

As for Kean, he never was going to do well because he's a managerial incompetent, but he's a calculating individual who has manipulated his way to a position of quite unbelievable strength at Ewood Park.

You can't honestly tell me that a viscous despising of that man doesn't exist around the town, and it sure as hell isn't because he isn't much cop as a manager, we've had plenty of those.

[Majiball]

I know what you mean but it's a balancing act isn't it?

Is it for 'the greater good' or am I biting my nose off to spite my face?

Anyone got any more cliches I could borrow?

Sheep follow.

[Ewood Spark]

N

Really ES? We lose thousands of ST holders, but win a few games and they are begging to be allowed to buy one? That didn't happen with a happy ship in the PL, it sure as hell won't happen now.

I did say SOME may be swayed by the football argument.

N

As for Kean, he never was going to do well because he's a managerial incompetent, but he's a calculating individual who has manipulated his way to a position of quite unbelievable strength at Ewood Park.

You can't honestly tell me that a viscous despising of that man doesn't exist around the town, and it sure as hell isn't because he isn't much cop as a manager, we've had plenty of those.

The point is I have no idea what Kean's personality is really like ... I have never even spoken to him. For all I know he may go home at night and strangle cats .... I just don't know. The only thing I can judge him on is his public persona. I don't see evil. In fact some of the traits he displays are just what you need for a top cat in an organisation ... positivity and a thick skin and an absolute determination to clamber to the top .... I have seen these traits displayed in my own organisation ... and it seems to work, even for people who arn't necessarily good at their jobs. If only Kean had the ability to win football matches (which deep down is the thing that irks most of his detractors) then he seems to have the personality to get to the very top.

[Mattyblue]

Of course the overrriding reason is his ###### poor record, that's why people are so very frustrated.

[Ewood Spark]

Of course the overrriding reason is his ###### poor record, that's why people are so very frustrated.

That is what I am getting at .... his personality issues are a 'straw man' argument ... it is all about success on the field. So if he does manage to win games early next season ... what then for the non-renewers?

[Mattyblue]

If they believe Kean is a poisonous figure, they will continue their stance. Otherwise they would be 'fickle', no?

As for strawmen, football is all about results, so to see a man who doesn't need to get them harp on about positivity, right directions whilst maneouviring his allies into positions of power after relegating the club- yep I can see why he would be unpopular.