[Archived] Season Tickets 2012/13

[Paul]

To go to away matches is a show of support for the club, to go to home matches is a show of support for the owners.

Which indicates in your case you no longer support the club?

I understand you stopped going away some years ago, no doubt with a few exceptions like many, and stopped going to Ewood last season in protest at the owners / manager

[Paul Mellelieu]

Theno's been looking for reasons to escape EP and hang around the golf club for years.

[Rover_Shaun]

I think many would start to wobble!

To quote a famous phrase "Not a chance. No"

[Miker]

Wigan Home 7/5/12 rather disproves that theory Miker.

Ah I didn't realise one instance was enough to disprove a theory about psychological effects.

[roverandout]

sorry miker, team's performances have been affected diddly squat by our support, we have given them all the support in the world but we still went down. Are you one of the deluded fans who thinks that if we all go 'rovers rovers ra ra ra' then everything should turn out all right? this is about the owners obvious disdain for the the supporters, all they had to do was the obvious thing and then fans would have come flocking back but they havent and until they do then things won't changes as far as the fans are concerned.

[Steve Moss]

I cannot for the life of me understand that one....the ones boycotting (myself included) are doing so mainly because golden balls is in charge and the venkys are still the boss of billy smarts...so why are ypu going to away games to watch the buffoon make a total knob of himself?...why are you not then going to ewood to get all angry with him?.....boycott the whole shananigans (sp)...those who have no life outside of football need to get back to area 51 and find themselves a "green" mate...

It makes sense.

Home attendance revenue goes into Venkys' pocket. Away game revenue does not.

So going to away games allows a supporter to cheer on the team while not enabling [supporting financially] Venkys' negative behaviors.

[Wiggy]

this is about the owners obvious disdain for the the supporters, all they had to do was the obvious thing and then fans would have come flocking back but they havent and until they do then things won't changes as far as the fans are concerned.

Absolutely correct. The Raos have stubbornly refused to listen to the supporters ( or anyone else who knows about English football and has no vested interest) regarding the out of depth, chancer who they employ as a so called manager.

If they treat their customers with such contempt why should they be surprised if those customers reciprocate?

[xtp]

Sadly to some, that is conditional. some should chant, "Rovers till I die, dependant on who the owner or the manager is." or "rovers till I die, subject to terms and conditions". Sad that people are allowing venkys and kean to dictate if they come to matches or not. Those chosing to boycott are allowing Venkys and Kean etc to win. Staying away will have no effect on venkys whatsoever - so pointless doing so. I do not understand why folk allow them to take away their enjoyment of attending a football match. But at the end of the day it is still their choice.

Whilst there is a team to support, whilst I am still physically able and financially able to do so. I will still come to what matches I am able to do. If I lived in the blackburn area, I would buy a season ticket. Attending a football match and supporting your club, is like a tradition.

I have no desire to repeat the same argument again and again, but surely its clear to anybody reading this thread that there are many people boycotting home games because they believe that doing so is in the best interest of the club.

You state that, 'staying away will have no effect on Venky's whatsoever', but that is your opinion and there are many who have very logical reasons for believing otherwise.

Why has Kean been so desperate to portray the protestors as the minority if fan opinion does not matter to Desai? An empty Ewood Park would be a message that would be visible and undeniable. A message that couldn't be spun by Kean and his tag-alongs. It would be a cast-iron symbol of how badly Venky's have failed, that would be recognised by every potential customer and business partner that has even the faintest understanding of football or of business for that matter. In my opinion, it is impossible that Venky's would not be damaged by this.

Even if you disagree, it's unfair to portray people boycotting as lesser fans, when they have solid reasoning behind their actions.

Of course, it's equally unfair for people boycotting to present those attending as lesser fans. I think its obvious that everyone posting on here cares greatly for this club and is passionate about trying to find the best way to help it.

[Steve Moss]

You state that, 'staying away will have no effect on Venky's whatsoever', but that is your opinion and there are many who have very logical reasons for believing otherwise.

Why has Kean been so desperate to portray the protestors as the minority if fan opinion does not matter to Desai?

Bingo. +1.

Even if you disagree, it's unfair to portray people boycotting as lesser fans, when they have solid reasoning behind their actions.

Of course, it's equally unfair for people boycotting to present those attending as lesser fans. I think its obvious that everyone posting on here cares greatly for this club and is passionate about trying to find the best way to help it.

Again, spot on.

[PAFELL]

I have no desire to repeat the same argument again and again, but surely its clear to anybody reading this thread that there are many people boycotting home games because they believe that doing so is in the best interest of the club.

You state that, 'staying away will have no effect on Venky's whatsoever', but that is your opinion and there are many who have very logical reasons for believing otherwise.

Why has Kean been so desperate to portray the protestors as the minority if fan opinion does not matter to Desai? An empty Ewood Park would be a message that would be visible and undeniable. A message that couldn't be spun by Kean and his tag-alongs. It would be a cast-iron symbol of how badly Venky's have failed, that would be recognised by every potential customer and business partner that has even the faintest understanding of football or of business for that matter. In my opinion, it is impossible that Venky's would not be damaged by this.

Even if you disagree, it's unfair to portray people boycotting as lesser fans, when they have solid reasoning behind their actions.

Of course, it's equally unfair for people boycotting to present those attending as lesser fans. I think its obvious that everyone posting on here cares greatly for this club and is passionate about trying to find the best way to help it.

Kean is likely to tell venkys that attendences are down just because of relegation. Low attendence would damage the club, not venkys in the long term. It could also put off any possible interest if venkys decided to sell the club.

[Gav]

Kean is likely to tell venkys that attendences are down just because of relegation. Low attendence would damage the club, not venkys in the long term. It could also put off any possible interest if venkys decided to sell the club.

So you've bought a season ticket them I assume?

[xtp]

Kean is likely to tell venkys that attendences are down just because of relegation. Low attendence would damage the club, not venkys in the long term. It could also put off any possible interest if venkys decided to sell the club.

You are right that Kean will probably do that. There are a number of options for dealing with it. Several have been discussed in this thread. One way would be to have a large group of fans protesting outside Ewood Park during a match, making it blindingly obvious that absent fans still care about the club. Another would be to send a petition with several thousands fans who promise to renew as soon as Kean is fired. It's also possible that the scale of reduced attendance might make it clear that it isn't just about relegation. Or at the very least that Venky's need to do more to win those fans back.

As for your final point, if new investors or their advisors know anything about football, they will be able to see that Venky's have alienated the fanbase, and that thousands of fans would return if competent management was put in place. And if they don't know anything about football, then we don't want them as owners anyway. Had one lot of those already.

[Waggy76]

An empty stadium , would speak volumes ...

[Gav]

An empty stadium , would speak volumes ...

+1

[Ossydave]

Kean will much prefer an empty stadium, less abuse for him to put up with.

[47er]

Kean is likely to tell venkys that attendences are down just because of relegation. Low attendence would damage the club, not venkys in the long term. It could also put off any possible interest if venkys decided to sell the club.

As you've said a thousand times already! To sum up your views-----"nothing can be done so we must do nothing."

[Steve Moss]

As you've said a thousand times already! To sum up your views-----"nothing can be done so we must do nothing."

Pretty fair summation, I would say.

[thenodrog]

Theno's been looking for reasons to escape EP and hang around the golf club for years.

Sorry to thwart your intented insult cos on reflection macca for the first time ever in your miserable existence.... you might just be right. Here have one of these.... .

[thenodrog]

I understand you stopped going away some years ago, no doubt with a few exceptions like many, and stopped going to Ewood last season in protest at the owners / manager

Quite correct. Apart from the promotion season when so many away games were less than an hours drive away it's been selected away matches / European trips / Semi's and Finals only.

That knobhed who gave a straight red to Jason Wilcox off (and effectively ruined the contest) for basically dropping the ball on the touchline away at Nottm Forest did the damage for me. My money is too hard earned for me to place it be in the hands of clueless pricks in black I'm afraid Paul.

[mjs]

An empty stadium , would speak volumes ...

A stadium full of protesters would continue to speak louder.

Sorry but nobody will notice empty seats and protests outside. Dont think kean n venkys will lose any sleep over that.

Carry on in the ground and give em hell.

Gate receipts are small change in the big scheme of things.

I have renewed because i support brfc and wont be driven away by anyone.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

A stadium full of protesters would continue to speak louder.

Sorry but nobody will notice empty seats and protests outside. Dont think kean n venkys will lose any sleep over that.

Baffling couple of statements given the protests and their effect (or total lack of) last season.

[Miker]

The same people that are saying that empty seats will have an effect on the Raos are the same people who are saying they are asset strippers or not the real owners. It doesn't make sense to me.

You think it will affect them yet you at the same time think they won't give a ######?

It's just a futile attempt to reconcile the fact that success for the club will be success for Kean and the Raos and that you want one, but not the other.

[Paul]

The only thing likely to drive the Raos away is a highly profitable offer to buy the club. That is unlikely to happen and not buying an ST has very little influence.

If they were going cheaply they would be gone by now.

My money is too hard earned for me to place it be in the hands of clueless pricks in black I'm afraid Paul.

Doesn't really answer the point though.

[cloggyjimmybrfc]

The one thing that in all this mess what as become consistent is the fact that kean as done a very good job at dividing the support and with venkys stubborness ,it all goes hand in hand.

I have one lad at 9 who is well into his football and as followed brfc since he was 2,my 5 year old went the latter half of last season on a half season ticket,the problem will be,if these owners and kean are here for the long term and he continues to embbaress the fans and club,season after season,the next generation will suffer.i simply detest the bloke and will not be in the same place as him,its not about supporting the club,rtid,rtwd,(banging your chest on the shirt),its the fact kean is loving every minute of his tenor and at the same time hes taking the michael out of the supporters....steve keans blue and white army ...my @rse....ive no doubt most of you saw the video of the snake telling the whole club what he thought of allardyce,it doesnt matter if the story is true about allardyce,the horrible little man had the stupidity to name and shame a fellow manager in public......a disgrace of a man (i use that word loosely) who is now in the technical area laughing his nuts off at everyone who abuses him on the terraces and is laughing even more at the ones who have remained quiet sat on their bums for 18 months watching the slow accident happening before their eyes....you couldnt make it up.

[gumboots]

The same people that are saying that empty seats will have an effect on the Raos are the same people who are saying they are asset strippers or not the real owners. It doesn't make sense to me.

You think it will affect them yet you at the same time think they won't give a ######?

It's just a futile attempt to reconcile the fact that success for the club will be success for Kean and the Raos and that you want one, but not the other.

You are right that protesting or boycotting won't affect the club's owners. However it will affect me. I'll be better off, less wound up, live in a more peaceful home than for the last 20 months and possibly since the departure of Hughes which is when I think the Ewood experience first began to lose its attraction. I've kept going till now and would be back if kean went but for the time being it's immeasurably better if I'm not there. If my not being there in any way helps the kean out message to get through, great but I'm not holding my breath.