Nzonzi off?

[den]

Get his head right and get him playing, that should be what a manager does.

We're doing really well without him aren't we.

[Stuart]

Spot on - yes the manager is shocking....

But any other relegation, some of these players would have been slated and probably had the old 'your not fit to wear the shirt' sung at them.

But this isn't "any other relegation". I appreciate they are well paid but if the fans won't put up with it - and some have been here since long before the likes of N'Zonzi were born - the how and why should we expect players to put up with him?

The players who stuck up for Kean and speak out in his favour are slated as sycophants or a slaves to the money. Yet those who won't put up with him, and show it are also slated as "not fit to wear the shirt".

I will not blame players for refusing to kowtow to Kean and his failing methods.

Much like some people wish the ground was empty of fans to make a point, I wish ALL of the players would "do an N'Zonzi". They have much more leverage than we do, and it's only 30 or so individuals who have to agree on action, not 20,000.

[rhodie]

If a player refuses to play the club should be able to stop paying him and be able to claim compensation for service lost. Professional players get enough money to curb the sulk and get on with the job to the best of their ability.I can`t see how any of them can bitch about managers,fans or club as 99.9% of them only signed for the money anyway.

[Stuart]

If a player refuses to play the club should be able to stop paying him and be able to claim compensation for service lost. Professional players get enough money to curb the sulk and get on with the job to the best of their ability.I can`t see how any of them can bitch about managers,fans or club as 99.9% of them only signed for the money anyway.

Let me introduce you to someone - you've clearly never heard of him:

[den]

Bloody hell Stuart. Could you not have put a link with a warning?

[Pedro]

Has history taught us nothing? After Nelsen, Roberts and Salgado. People are still willing to take the club's side of the story and not give the player the benefit of any doubt.

If he was a star performer I would be bothered, he was gutless on the pitch and not worth his salary since his 1st season.

[BiggusLaddus]

Are all those who are prepared to give N'Zonzi the benefit of the doubt forgetting about the 6 months that he was unavailable to play for Sam's first team due to 'non-footballing' reasons?

But generally yes, Kean has a shocking record at man management.

[den]

Are all those who are prepared to give N'Zonzi the benefit of the doubt forgetting about the 6 months that he was unavailable to play for Sam's first team due to 'non-footballing' reasons?

But generally yes, Kean has a shocking record at man management.

It's the managers duty to get the best team possible on the pitch. That's what he's paid for. Anything less than that leaves the club, the team and the fans short. All the people wanting rid of him for being a t****r, would presumable field a weakened side every week. A lot of players don't like the manager. A lot of managers don't like all the players, but if this kind of stand off, where players are being paid but not playing, occurs regularly [which it does at Ewood], then it's a sign of failure on the managers part.

[47er]

If he was a star performer I would be bothered, he was gutless on the pitch and not worth his salary since his 1st season.

If he was a star performer I would be bothered, he was gutless on the pitch and not worth his salary since his 1st season.

Rubbish. He joins a long list of Premier League standard players who had to go. That's why we were relegated.

No-one can stand up to Kean and stay whatever the consequences for the Club's fortunes on the field.

First it's the fans to blame, then it's the players. Put the blame fair and square where it belongs.

[XLM]

Not everything is so black and white. It may well have been Kean's fault for other players wanting to leave and subsequently leaving, but N'zonzi comes across as a spoilt child. He did under BFS and he does now.

And as for getting the best possible team on the pitch, even if it's your best player acting like a prick you don't pick him. Just ask Sir Alex.

[Salgado Is A Hero]

Not everything is so black and white. It may well have been Kean's fault for other players wanting to leave and subsequently leaving, but N'zonzi comes across as a spoilt child. He did under BFS and he does now.

And as for getting the best possible team on the pitch, even if it's your best player acting like a prick you don't pick him. Just ask Sir Alex.

While you're there ask him if Cantona had an ego? And whether the best thing to do is, A - not play the players with ego's or B - learn how to handle them properly.

[scotty_beam_me_up]

Let's not start comparing N'zonzi to Cantona. He has been a spoilt child since he signed and has only looked good when next to an elder pro. His 6 months with Jermaine Jones were close to his best. It appears he is refusing to play or Kean has refused to pick him which is a shame as Murphy could be a great influence on him. As far as transfers go though I don't see any clubs beating down the door for his signature.

The situation with N'zonzi sums up the current regime. Here we have a good footballer on our books who isn't helping the first team and taking a wage. There are so many players who have been in this mess since Venkys took over. Nelson, Salgado and Roberts to name a few but the ones whice really irk me are the players signed in the Venkys era, Rochina, Simon and Bruno.

[Pedro]

Rubbish. He joins a long list of Premier League standard players who had to go. That's why we were relegated.

No-one can stand up to Kean and stay whatever the consequences for the Club's fortunes on the field.

First it's the fans to blame, then it's the players. Put the blame fair and square where it belongs.

Rubbish??? You my friend are very easily pleased then. He has been pap and was dropped by Sam for a spell for being so.

The blame should be shared out, the players are responsible to us fans for giving their all, he and Samba clearly did not commit to our "survival bid" despite cashing their hefty cheques.

Kean is utter crap - it's a well known fact - as are our owners, hence why I wrote what you are obviously referring to in an order of blame that filtered down through the Manager,owners, players and fans. I shouldn't have to spell this out but unfortunately people feel the need to get a valid point accross or to appease the the likes of you by either stating their dislike of Kean/Venkys in every single post they make, or spelling things out in the most basic way that you can comprehend an opinion - but unfortunately I have neither the time nor inclination to do this for the likes of you 47er, so you are going to have to dust off your brain a bit.

So, as per your criticism, if you think that we wouldn't have stood a much better chance of staying up by all players giving their all and fans focussing on supporting them for 90mins that's fine - but many disagree with you and it is the likes of them who have been alienated from this site and just because only the minority remain, it doesn't make the point "rubbish" or you correct. Kean was unmoveable - time and hindsight has proved this to be accurate. Some experienced players were sold or alienated due to the wage that they were on - we as supporters couldn't affect this either. The only variable that could have been directly influenced last season would be by supporting the players who were on the pitch, not going back to Plan A (waggle a sign/point finger whilst chanting "Kean Out") as soon as we conceded - this may have made them feel supported and want to give a flying (Please don't use that word again) about us and the results...because reading between the lines and seeing some reactions after they scored, the players didn't hold the fans in very high regard.

[The Rover of Finland]

Huddlestone having a medical at Stoke. So they won´t be keen on Nzonzi if they ever were. His big head will be here in September.

[davulsukur]

Someone will loan him on the final day of the window.

[LeChuck]

Huddlestone having a medical at Stoke. So they won´t be keen on Nzonzi if they ever were. His big head will be here in September.

Everton are probably our last chance if they are looking to replace Rodwell. Maybe West Ham if Allardyce feels he needs more height in his team.

[den]

Could be back in the squad.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/9886516.Nzonzi_may_still_have_a_future_at_Blackburn_Rovers__insists_manager/

[RoyRover]

N'Zonzi doesn't want to play in the Championship / for Kean, but he's still happy enough to pick up his wages from a Championship club.

[RevidgeBlue]

It's the managers duty to get the best team possible on the pitch. That's what he's paid for. Anything less than that leaves the club, the team and the fans short. All the people wanting rid of him for being a t****r, would presumable field a weakened side every week. A lot of players don't like the manager. A lot of managers don't like all the players, but if this kind of stand off, where players are being paid but not playing, occurs regularly [which it does at Ewood], then it's a sign of failure on the managers part.

He might constitute part of our best eleven playing at his very best, but if as in the case of last season he plays and is in fact consistently one of the worst players out of a bad bunch because he is sulking, where does that leave us?

You might be right when you say a lot of players don't like the manager, but what you need are players who are professional enough to give 100% and get on with the job regardless..

Could be back in the squad.

http://www.lancashir...nsists_manager/

What a kick in the nuts for his seemingly hugely inflated ego that would be. Not a single feasible offer for him.

[chaddyrovers]

Nzonzi to Norwich on loan

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/norwich-transfer-news-steven-nzonzi-1276325

[patrickvalery]

Nzonzi to Norwich on loan

http://www.mirror.co...-nzonzi-1276325

Hope he makes this move. The whinging little schnit can have relegation on his CV twice in 2 years.

[The Rover of Finland]

Hope he makes this move. The whinging little schnit can have relegation on his CV twice in 2 years.

Join the club says Scott Dann.

[Hughesy]

IF we do allow him out on loan in Britain then I hope we are getting a hefty loan fee for him....ideally with a club that will stay up and can afford his future fee, dont see that being Norwich

[thenodrog]

I will not blame players for refusing to kowtow to Kean and his failing methods.

Much like some people wish the ground was empty of fans to make a point, I wish ALL of the players would "do an N'Zonzi". They have much more leverage than we do, and it's only 30 or so individuals who have to agree on action, not 20,000.

Me neither.

There is an old saying amongst football managers 'Get rid of poor players before they get rid of you'. Unfortunately the diametrically opposite scenario is being played out at Ewood Park. We have a group of players who stood up to Kean and have been disposed of who under most decent managers would have been kept on board and would have surely been good enough to have seen us to safety last year. Suffice to say most are still playing at top level. The number of 'poor' and 'past it's' on the books will have no intention of standing against him cos we will be paying them at a level they would not get elsewhere. They almost as much as Kean are the reason that I won't go to Ewood. There is a stench of corruption all around the place.

If he was a star performer I would be bothered, he was gutless on the pitch and not worth his salary since his 1st season.

Does your seat face the pitch Pedro?

He'll never be a Berkovic or Tugay but mark my words a good manager could turn him into a formidable midfield partner for such.

[den]

Does your seat face the pitch Pedro?

He'll never be a Berkovic or Tugay but mark my words a good manager could turn him into a formidable midfield partner for such.

It's amazing how many of our decent players turn to crap when they want out of the club.