Pedro Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 He was undoubtedly planted on here by the Raos and repeatedly gave himself away by stating he was a "medium level staffer" yet claimed to have visited Ewood many times. One of those two claims has to be untrue as they directly contradict each other. His presence may have been an attempt to influence opinion. The thread removal is interesting. I think the removal of the SteveKeanLies topic is quite understandable however as I recall the M G Road thread was good discussion with a poster who purported to have some sympathy with and information for Rovers fans. My question would be either what was said or what influence has been used to have this thread removed? I think it's a touch sinister. I think he was semi-genuine. Probably found out by being falsely told that Hoilett had signed on again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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neophox Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 With his south american connection, Gus Poyet would be my bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto man Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I'm not English, Pakistani, Indian, West Indian, South African, Bangladeshi, Sri Lankan or Australian. Thus I come across about as much coverage of cricket as I do dwarf tossing. The fact that I can name some Test nations, or even know what that is, means I know more about cricket than at least 95% of the Swedish population. Hey you know more about it than me too mate and I'm English! ha ha ha. Who's Brett Lee? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neophox Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Steve Kean to be sacked by Blackburn Rovers Daily Mail 06:12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicalmortensleftpeg Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 An excellent post Paul and one with which I totally agree. Getting rid of Kean is only a very small step in the right direction. The problems surrounding this club go far deeper than who stands in the dugout on a Saturday afternoon. As you quite rightly say, we have nobody at the helm at Ewood to run the club, we have more than half of the first team squad - all the better players anyway - looking to jump ship while season ticket sales are at rock bottom. Venky's own business in India would appear to have major problems with the share price in freefall and thus far they have shown no inclination to invest financially in the Rovers. Whilst getting rid of Kean is welcome the fact remains that he was only a small part of the problem. The real issues that have caused the loss of top flight status still remain - in Pune. Quite how you solve those problems I don't know. Sadly, not even the sacking of Kean can ease the pain of the prospect of becoming another run of the mill Championship/League One club. Many of us have been there before and knew how precious Premier League status really was compared to what we experienced from the mid-=1960's to 1991-92. I agree. Getting rid of Kean is a one of a number of serious problems that need to be addressed. My only hope is that in order to appoint a respectable manager Venkys will have to change how they work. Curbishley or Holloway will dictate to them how a football club needs to be run and hopefully, for once, they will listen. No manager would work under the current regime and if they're aiming for that type of candidate then they will have no choice but to change the way in which they run the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Absolutely incredible this, you really couldn't make it up !!!! Venkat Ananth@venkatananth Had a word with Vineeth Rao (thanks @Northern_Rover). Rao: "I really don't know about what happened (yesterday). Even I am waiting for info" Venkat Ananth@venkatananth Rao: "I am aware of the situation (in Blackburn re: fans). I can understand their anxiety. But I really don't have any information re: Kean" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenodrog Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 DING......... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2146586/Steve-Kean-sacked-Blackburn-Rovers.html DONG.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cn174 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Rao: "I really don't know about what happened just about sums them up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugaysMarlboro Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Another day of waiting and hoping that pillock brain has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheArtistFormallyKnownAsJB Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 this just goes on and on and on and on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I understand that Curbishley has been informally sounded out by Rovers on a number of occasions over the last 9 months or so as I've flagged on this MB before. I therefore think he is one of those very close to the owners' thoughts. I would also take Holloway who would be like a breath of fresh air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderation Lead K-Hod Posted May 19, 2012 Moderation Lead Share Posted May 19, 2012 The Raos are so abysmal at making decisions, you wonder if they are deliberately being useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovermatt Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Worrying reaction on here to this post and another illustration of how fans think. The idea of this pair choosing a manager gives me nightmares. On the basis of what we've seen to date most candidates could convince the Rao brothers of their ability to do the job Let's not forget this is a pair who know nothing about football. Whose communication with the club and support in eighteen months has been to stand sheepishly at the tunnel entrance and give an embarrassed wave. Sacking Kean gets us just over the starting line. We should not appoint a new manager until we have a senior club management in place. Individuals who will run the club, communicate with Pune, etc. Failing to do this us almost certain to lead to a situation whereby the new manager becomes frustrated after a few months and leaves. All we know about Kean is undoubtedly correct BUT don't forget he has worked for a family who are completely unable to run a football club and incapable of making decisions. There is no evidence whatsoever to suggest a new manager will find anything else has changed. Rovers is a shipwreck and all this talk of being a bigger club than A B or C fails to recognise how far we have fallen. Thousands are proclaiming they won't buy STs etc etc. players leaving, no money, income slashed. Why would a competent manager come here? Invite Williams and Finn back? Let's be objective - John is at City. Hmmmm. Tom as far as we know is not working but would he really wish to go back to the madhouse? It's going to be a long hard road just to stabilise the club, let alone get back to the PL. ......... and don't forget the Raos had no money in the first place - recall all the discussion about Crores etc? They do not have any money now and with the company share price crashing by around 60% since buying Rovers are worth far less on paper than the day they bought Rovers. If Kean goes great then what happens? Great post. I believe our problems can only go away if these idiots sell the club to people who are engaged with what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheArtistFormallyKnownAsJB Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 The Raos are so abysmal at making decisions, you wonder if they are deliberately being useless. This is the question that has loomed for the past 18 months; Are Venkys completely inept or deliberate? oh.. and are you coming round to watch the the seasiders.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.J.Newton Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 The longer this goes on the more i cant help but think there has been no real change but nobody at ewood wants to be the one to break that news! (Or my cynisism could be a lasting side affect of KeanVenkyitus). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewoodbhappy Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 A puppet who is 100% complicit in what has gone on. I've just realised He's CHUCKY. One evil little bast#rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martonrover Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 The longer this goes on the more i cant help but think there has been no real change but nobody at ewood wants to be the one to break that news! (Or my cynisism could be a lasting side affect of KeanVenkyitus). Who is there left at Ewood to break the news? Perhaps Kean will have to announce his own sacking :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fife Rover Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I realise it probably won't happen, but a bit of swallowing of pride , inviting John Williams and Tom Finn back would be one way of straightening the ship and go along way to rectifying the wrongs of the past 18 months. Absolutely right Dave! Always assuming too that they actually then leave the recruitment of a new manager to JW and the new board at Blackburn to decide . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamy100 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I will continue to urge caution, Venky's sources unable to confirm anything at the moment. It is pretty obvious that something has happened but exactly what is open to debate at the moment. For me Kean retaining ANY kinda role with Rovers is completely unacceptable, even a role in the Pune academy, he would in that role have access to owners on a daily basis and that would be problematic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baz Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Come on Rovers, just confirm he's gone! My shouts for manager would be Hoddle or Gary Neville, but I doubt either would come. Holloway is interesting, but fear that he's at his peak at Blackpool and the raise in expectation at Ewood may be difficult for him. Curbishley, I don't think he has the ambition anymore. Warlock, no thanks. Karl Robinson, too high a risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 kamy, have you not heard anything new? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrickvalery Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I understand that Curbishley has been informally sounded out by Rovers on a number of occasions over the last 9 months or so as I've flagged on this MB before. I therefore think he is one of those very close to the owners' thoughts. I would also take Holloway who would be like a breath of fresh air. I like Holloway and the job he's done at Blackpool has been terrific. But i have reservations about him coming to Rovers. Sometimes players and managers are just a great fit with particular clubs. It happens all the time. I just can't see Holloway working his magic at Rovers right now. There is too much negativity around the place and i don't think the playing staff would react to him. I'm sure thats doing him a massive disservice, but it just doesn't feel right. I think the club needs some discipline and some guidance. If Kean is indeed gone, then an old head needs to come into the club and give the clueless owners some old fashioned guidance. I think they'll be forced to listen too. No manager in his right mind would touch the job as it is. Kean clearly had far too much influence and i suspect that was a result of advice he and JA readily offered to the owners. If he's gone then any new manager would want assurances that a proper structure would be put in place before even considering any offer. I'd go all out to snare Curbishley. The young and hungry option is too risky at this time. We need someone to steady the ship, get the players fitter and instill some discipline and rules around the place. Kean had many failings, but i believe these were compounded by the fact he could never excerpt any authority on a squad who were used to him being the friendly, approachable coach rather than the dictatorial manager figure. Someone like Curbishly coupled with an improved off field structure could stop or at least slow down the rot. If indeed Venky's read this board, now is a golden window of opportunity to claw back some support. Do things right from here on in. Get advice from an old school football person. Get the basics right. Remove any agents from decision making and revert back to using them for the purpose they should serve. An agent is selling you something - not the other way around. Manipulate them as they manipulated you. Come out and confirm Kean has gone and appoint a manager who can organise a side from back to front and not the other way around. It'll never happen, but admit your mistakes - fans will appreciate that. Most of all, please listen to the fans - if you had done Rovers would still be riding that PL gravy train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
den Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Paul and Parson are bob on when they talk about the importance of having the right managerial structure at the club. Absolutely right that until that is sorted out, we can't move forwards. Thing is though, if Kean is sacked, it has to be now. It's no good sacking him further down the line. Sacking him now means that there wont be any kind of structure in place capable of knowing a decent manager, if they fell over one. So a question to Paul and Parson:- What should the club do - sack him now or wait 'til goodness knows when - or if - we rebuild the structure? There's only one answer isn't there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamy100 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 kamy, have you not heard anything new? All unconfirmed speculation at the moment so no point posting it until it can be stood up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyRover Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 I will continue to urge caution, Venky's sources unable to confirm anything at the moment. It is pretty obvious that something has happened but exactly what is open to debate at the moment. For me Kean retaining ANY kinda role with Rovers is completely unacceptable, even a role in the Pune academy, he would in that role have access to owners on a daily basis and that would be problematic. My feeling exactly. You don't know what sort of poison he would be dropping in the ears of the owners in an attempt to get himself back on board. He needs to be gone and gone for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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