[Archived] Steve Kean's Future Set To Be Discussed

[roverandout]

that will probably be weeks then

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Oh please yea yes yes yes come onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn say hes gone

[Mercer]

I will continue to urge caution, Venky's sources unable to confirm anything at the moment. It is pretty obvious that something has happened but exactly what is open to debate at the moment. For me Kean retaining ANY kinda role with Rovers is completely unacceptable, even a role in the Pune academy, he would in that role have access to owners on a daily basis and that would be problematic.

I think we all echo that.

Think it's important that all this type of stuff gets fed back through your contacts.

Firstly, Kean is supposedly to have pleaded for his job on the basis of being able to keep most of the squad together including Junior. Full credit to Cryer for getting the Hoilett story out PDQ and now that's been followed up with the Yak's away story. Surely, surely, our owners are seeing a picture emerging that Kean, IMO and that of many, many others, simply can't be trusted.

[gumboots]

Come on Rovers, just confirm he's gone!

My shouts for manager would be Hoddle or Gary Neville, but I doubt either would come. Holloway is interesting, but fear that he's at his peak at Blackpool and the raise in expectation at Ewood may be difficult for him. Curbishley, I don't think he has the ambition anymore. Warlock, no thanks. Karl Robinson, too high a risk.

What raise in expectations? Keep us out of League 1?

[martonrover]

Even if Blackpool stay down the only possible motive I could see for Holloway to come would be for comedy purposes, eg jokes about chickens. Why would any manager in a half decent job be interested?

[koi]

PNE is probably refusing to announce it. I like to imagine him in the corner of his office curled up in the foetal position sobbing like a scolded petulant child, blubbering his refusal to accept that the dream is over.

[Pedro]

that will probably be weeks then

...when his managerial contract expires

[Mercer]

PNE is probably refusing to announce it. I like to imagine him in the corner of his office curled up in the foetal position sobbing like a scolded petulant child, blubbering his refusal to accept that the dream is over.

+1

[alexanders]

The only thing giving me hope is that Kean hasnt been in media spouting off about being unsackable and the owners can see what we Are trying to do.

[Mercer]

You do wonder how JA / SEM will take this - presumably, they wont just lie down and will be looking to pull all the strings they can !

[Clitherover]

Even if Blackpool stay down the only possible motive I could see for Holloway to come would be for comedy purposes, eg jokes about chickens. Why would any manager in a half decent job be interested?

Whatever our current circumstances we are still a MUCH bigger club than Blackpool so it would be a step up, the main issue is obviously our nutty owners but if they could deliver certain promises and write them into his contract then who knows?

I'm not holding my breath though.

[T.J.Newton]

Come on Rovers, just confirm he's gone!

My shouts for manager would be Hoddle or Gary Neville, but I doubt either would come. Holloway is interesting, but fear that he's at his peak at Blackpool and the raise in expectation at Ewood may be difficult for him. Curbishley, I don't think he has the ambition anymore. Warlock, no thanks. Karl Robinson, too high a risk.

totally share your views on holloway, prior to blackpool he was nothing more than a jobbing manager with a career win average of around 37% and his season in the prem league wasnt great, yes they played decent football but still got very relegated.

[AggyBlue]

So a question to Paul and Parson:- What should the club do - sack him now or wait 'til goodness knows when - or if - we rebuild the structure?

There's only one answer isn't there?

Yes, sack him now.

Then get an experienced CEO in ASAP.

[forumquizmaster]

You do wonder how JA / SEM will take this - presumably, they wont just lie down and will be looking to pull all the strings they can !

Surely Anderson's had plenty of clients that have been sacked before? Its part and parcel of the game.

[Mercer]

Wonder what the odds are on chants of 'Kean out' ringing out around Wembley this afternoon !

[forumquizmaster]

I like Holloway and the job he's done at Blackpool has been terrific. But i have reservations about him coming to Rovers. Sometimes players and managers are just a great fit with particular clubs. It happens all the time. I just can't see Holloway working his magic at Rovers right now. There is too much negativity around the place and i don't think the playing staff would react to him. I'm sure thats doing his a massive disservice, but it just doesn't feel right.

I think the club needs some discipline and some guidance. If Kean is indeed gone, then an old head needs to come into the club and give the clueless owners some old fashioned guidance. I think they'll be forced to listen too. No manager in his right mind would touch the job as it is. Kean clearly had far too much influence and i suspect that was a result of advice he and JA readily offered to the owners. If he's gone then any new manager would want assurances that a proper structure would be put in place before even considering any offer.

I'd go all out to snare Curbishley. The young and hungry option is too risky at this time. We need someone to steady the ship, get the players fitter and instill some discipline and rules around the place. Kean had many failings, but i believe these were compounded by the fact he could never excerpt any authority on a squad who were used to him being the friendly, approachable coach rather than the dictatorial manager figure. Someone like Curbishly coupled with an improved off field structure could stop or at least slow down the rot.

If indeed Venky's read this board, now is a golden window of opportunity to claw back some support. Do things right from here on in. Get advice from an old school football person. Get the basics right. Remove any agents from decision making and revert back to using them for the purpose they should serve. An agent is selling you something - not the other way around. Manipulate them as they manipulated you. Come out and confirm Kean has gone and appoint a manager who can organise a side from back to front and not the other way around. It'll never happen, but admit your mistakes - fans will appreciate that. Most of all, please listen to the fans - if you had done Rovers would still be riding that PL gravy train.

Absolutely bang on the money for me, this post.

[John]

I like Holloway and the job he's done at Blackpool has been terrific. But i have reservations about him coming to Rovers. Sometimes players and managers are just a great fit with particular clubs. It happens all the time. I just can't see Holloway working his magic at Rovers right now. There is too much negativity around the place and i don't think the playing staff would react to him. I'm sure thats doing him a massive disservice, but it just doesn't feel right.

I think the club needs some discipline and some guidance. If Kean is indeed gone, then an old head needs to come into the club and give the clueless owners some old fashioned guidance. I think they'll be forced to listen too. No manager in his right mind would touch the job as it is. Kean clearly had far too much influence and i suspect that was a result of advice he and JA readily offered to the owners. If he's gone then any new manager would want assurances that a proper structure would be put in place before even considering any offer.

I'd go all out to snare Curbishley. The young and hungry option is too risky at this time. We need someone to steady the ship, get the players fitter and instill some discipline and rules around the place. Kean had many failings, but i believe these were compounded by the fact he could never excerpt any authority on a squad who were used to him being the friendly, approachable coach rather than the dictatorial manager figure. Someone like Curbishly coupled with an improved off field structure could stop or at least slow down the rot.

If indeed Venky's read this board, now is a golden window of opportunity to claw back some support. Do things right from here on in. Get advice from an old school football person. Get the basics right. Remove any agents from decision making and revert back to using them for the purpose they should serve. An agent is selling you something - not the other way around. Manipulate them as they manipulated you. Come out and confirm Kean has gone and appoint a manager who can organise a side from back to front and not the other way around. It'll never happen, but admit your mistakes - fans will appreciate that. Most of all, please listen to the fans - if you had done Rovers would still be riding that PL gravy train.

Good post - lot lot of fans wouldn't fancy Curbs but we need safe pair of hands.

Problem we have got is common sense, good decision making and the Rao family don't go together.

[broadsword]

Rao family motto, if in doubt, do nowt.

[Majiball]

Rao family motto, if in doubt, do nowt.

I don't credit them with the intelligence to have emotions.

[rovers11]

This could all get very messy. Venky's clearly don't want kean as manager anymore but want him to take another role at the club. Kean is refusing to take a new role.

If they part on bad ways, kean could surely spill all about the crazy goings on with Venky's, possibly illegal goings on?!

[james_rox]

This could all get very messy. Venky's clearly don't want kean as manager anymore but want him to take another role at the club. Kean is refusing to take a new role.

If they part on bad ways, kean could surely spill all about the crazy goings on with Venky's, possibly illegal goings on?!

Surely he would also be complicit if anything illegal went on? My theory is they will announce when they get the TV money and can afford to sack him.

[martonrover]

Whatever our current circumstances we are still a MUCH bigger club than Blackpool so it would be a step up, the main issue is obviously our nutty owners but if they could deliver certain promises and write them into his contract then who knows?

I'm not holding my breath though.

Wouldn't argue re - size of clubs, however the 'nutty owners' factor is more important IMO. He's at a stable Club just now.

[John]

On the can't afford to sack him line, they have sacked others or agreed decent pays offs so don't think that is the main problem.

[Clitherover]

He's at a stable Club just now.

Can't argue with that mate, not sure where they'd be right now without Holloway, probably languishing around the lower ends of League 1 I'd guess.

[Parsonblue]

Paul and Parson are bob on when they talk about the importance of having the right managerial structure at the club. Absolutely right that until that is sorted out, we can't move forwards.

Thing is though, if Kean is sacked, it has to be now. It's no good sacking him further down the line. Sacking him now means that there wont be any kind of structure in place capable of knowing a decent manager, if they fell over one.

So a question to Paul and Parson:- What should the club do - sack him now or wait 'til goodness knows when - or if - we rebuild the structure?

There's only one answer isn't there?

Clearly he has to go as soon as possible. The problem is in replacing him. With no administrative structure in place at Ewood - surely we can't let Simon Hunt and Karen Silk appoint a new manager - the appointment will have to be made in Pune. I'm sure that having seen what has happened to John Williams, Tom Finn, Martin Goodman and Paul Hunt will put off any number of suitable candidates from wanting to apply for any administrative vacancies at Ewood Park. I think the same goes for finding a new manager. Sam disagreed with Desai and got the chop while Kean did everything Desai wanted and appears to have met the same fate.

In many ways I see next season as similar to that of 1971-72 when we dropped into the Third Division for the first time. Then there was a real danger of slipping straight through the division and I think the same thing could happen again. We are going to need a manager who can completely rebuild the playing squad in the same way that Furphy did and simply get a foothold on a comfortable mid-table position before trying to rebuild. Who can do that job while working under Desai is another question altogether.