[Archived] Steve Kean's Future Set To Be Discussed

[bob fleming]

In 30 years from now we shall all be reading the book about what really happened here...I wonder who will play Steve Kean in the movie...

[OJRovers]

Since 2010 Venkys have invested over £130m into their new facilities in Switzerland

Switzerland is the home of Kentaro/SEM

In the words of Mrs Desai dated January 2011: "We have friends at Kentaro, the sports agency, and they suggested we looked in England."

The key would be to determine the Ins/Outs of any funds between BRFC agents fees, Venkys(London) and any Swiss operations.

[arealbrfcfan]

I'm serious, this is TV/feature screenplay material. Better fodder than that Mike Bassett film they made years ago! It could be funnier than 'The Office'(but not for us!!)

Someone write it and send to BBC writers room!!

[Shabani]

Maybe the egg council man from the Simpsons..

[Veevs]

Run what happened after Sunderland through your memory bank then....

West Brom, Swansea, Spurs....

And such wonderful team selections and substitutions throughout.. bit that makes me wonder is how certain players got magically dropped, and some players looked so lost in their positions it was plain daft..

v wigan in one of the most important games in Rovers history.. we start with a new formation.. Goodwillie on the right, orr ends up in central defence and lowe at right back, peds in the middle, NO defenders on the bench, modeste has his third match of the season and first since feb, Givet can't play in the second half, marcus Olsson comes on for Dunn when we have Nzonzi, Formica and Rochina on the bench none of whom got a game..

In 30 years from now we shall all be reading the book about what really happened here...I wonder who will play Steve Kean in the movie...

Steve Kean will.. after all he invented movies didn't he?

Is RoversMum still a fan of Venkys?

From her posts I would say a definate no on that one.. kind of feel sorry for her, they had been convincing by all accounts and they all had so much stick on here, I still to be honest thing Balaji actually wanted to make something of this.

Caption: Keep coming at me fans...you canny touch me!

I still think that is why he tried to stay on the pitch after the Wigan game.. a fan touches him and he has a sob story and a half.

[j166429]

What's actually to stop Rovers fans investing their season ticket money on hiring a PI to dig up the dirt?

I think we already have our free version of a PI - @sportingintel. This is the journalist that released the two internal letters/memos.

Judging by his tweets this morning, he seems ceartain to reveal all as and when more information becomes available.

[Ferrit]

In 30 years from now we shall all be reading the book about what really happened here...I wonder who will play Steve Kean in the movie...

Depends, if we, as a human race have been able to animate a living turd i'd place my bets on that.

[bob fleming]

v wigan in one of the most important games in Rovers history.. we start with a new formation.. Goodwillie on the right, orr ends up in central defence and lowe at right back, peds in the middle, NO defenders on the bench, modeste has his third match of the season and first since feb, Givet can't play in the second half, marcus Olsson comes on for Dunn when we have Nzonzi, Formica and Rochina on the bench none of whom got a game..

Correct me if I'm wrong here but wasn't it the very same formation we played at Spurs? When we didn't have a single shot of any description?

Then you had Swansea away. Absolute garbage that was. City away - where we didn't even turn up. United away - we won? What were the odds on that again? Bolton away - I didn't go but again I don't believe we turned up.

Of course I'm just being silly.

Meanwhile Givet didn't play some games, NZonzi was dropped from site for some reason or other. Old head Salgado ignored, Martin Olsson was injured - but still made the bench. Samba sold outside the window so we couldn't get a replacement in. Nelsen given away. Emerton allowed to go. Roberts likewise. Yes, they have saved money off the wage bill - but more than we have lost by being relegated?!? I think not.

No, ignore me. I'm just being silly.

[BPF]

From her posts I would say a definate no on that one.. kind of feel sorry for her, they had been convincing by all accounts and they all had so much stick on here, I still to be honest thing Balaji actually wanted to make something of this.

I think he did too. Just like he did with his film company.

In my opinion he is the character in the story with the big heart and small brain. His sister is evil and wants to hurt his little pet. He tries to water it but whenever he gets close the evil queen bats him with a broom...

[toogs]

To everyone who is urging the ITK's "to do something", rest assured things are happening. To my knowledge there are SEVEN groups or individuals who are digging into Rovers seriously and these are people whose day job it is to do this sort of digging.

What is the motivation of these so called "diggers". What are their backgrounds without revealing too much obviously. Are some of them law enforcement?

[philipl]

What is the motivation of these so called "diggers". What are their backgrounds without revealing too much obviously. Are some of them law enforcement?

I will add the Police to the list of who they are not. Three work for household names, one is Sporting Intelligence.

[BigBar]

In 30 years from now we shall all be reading the book about what really happened here...I wonder who will play Steve Kean in the movie...

Ross Kemp....??

[Veevs]

Correct me if I'm wrong here but wasn't it the very same formation we played at Spurs? When we didn't have a single shot of any description?

Then you had Swansea away. Absolute garbage that was. City away - where we didn't even turn up. United away - we won? What were the odds on that again? Bolton away - I didn't go but again I don't believe we turned up.

Of course I'm just being silly.

Meanwhile Givet didn't play some games, NZonzi was dropped from site for some reason or other. Old head Salgado ignored, Martin Olsson was injured - but still made the bench. Samba sold outside the window so we couldn't get a replacement in. Nelsen given away. Emerton allowed to go. Roberts likewise. Yes, they have saved money off the wage bill - but more than we have lost by being relegated?!? I think not.

No, ignore me. I'm just being silly.

Sadly the spurs formation wasn't the same formation.. that was the wigan formation we tried for the first time ever because Kean had gone to the wigan game just before (orr, Lowe, Dann, Givet and Marcus Olsson at the back and a full 3 midfielders including our ol Dunny against their 5 man crew)..

[A cup of beans]

That would be why I said 'their' instead of 'our'.

Another Conductor of 'The Orchestra ? '

[Veevs]

Sadly the spurs formation wasn't the same formation.. that was the wigan formation we tried for the first time ever because Kean had gone to the wigan game just before (orr, Lowe, Dann, Givet and Marcus Olsson at the back and a full 3 midfielders including our ol Dunny against their 5 man crew)..

Still of course it takes a tactical genius like Kean to be able to play with no defensive midfielders against the likes of Sandro, Modric, Bale, Lennon and VDV

[bob fleming]

Sadly the spurs formation wasn't the same formation.. that was the wigan formation we tried for the first time ever because Kean had gone to the wigan game just before (orr, Lowe, Dann, Givet and Marcus Olsson at the back and a full 3 midfielders including our ol Dunny against their 5 man crew)..

Ach. Oh well. It was still horrendously crap though and I thought he went "two up top" as per Spurs. I'd apologise to Kean for my mistake but in all honesty he can kiss my arse.

[Veevs]

I will add the Police to the list of who they are not. Three work for household names, one is Sporting Intelligence.

You will probably find there are allot more than seven mate.. sadly I have the feeling that each group will be after the killer blow and probably miss important related information, personally believe that at the end of the day the sources will come from either the left field and someone unexpected (taxi driver, tea lady, cleaner etc) or the worst case and it is the SFS who get us by being allowed to follow the money trails.

Ach. Oh well. It was still horrendously crap though and I thought he went "two up top" as per Spurs. I'd apologise to Kean for my mistake but in all honesty he can kiss my arse.

lol.. I had to double check sure it was the 532.. telegraph are dead lovely and posting the formations for you and some nice little player average positions etc which make for exceptionally bad viewing.. Telegraph write up.. yes painful

[Jordan]

Was thinking the other day of what I would do if I had money and I wanted to but a club and make money from it by getting them relegated.

1 - Buy a club on the cheap and for sale

2 - Get rid of the manager and bring in my own manager who would have the ability to get away with shockingly bad results and decisions

3 - Get rid of the existing people running the club

4 - sell the best players and bring people in on the cheap

5 - stay away from the ground and let the manager take the flak

6 - leave no trace

Sound familiar?

[Veevs]

Was thinking the other day of what I would do if I had money and I wanted to but a club and make money from it by getting them relegated.

1 - Buy a club on the cheap and for sale

2 - Get rid of the manager and bring in my own manager who would have the ability to get away with shockingly bad results and decisions

3 - Get rid of the existing people running the club

4 - sell the best players and bring people in on the cheap

5 - stay away from the ground and let the manager take the flak

6 - leave no trace

Sound familiar?

You missed all of the other options.. and there are SO SO many.. Each one has been banded somewhere from match fixing, asset stripping through to money laundring.

At the end of the day whoever sold Venkys Rovers will of sold the golden exit strategy, which in the case of football and the EPL is unlike any other business because even if you fail you will not only make your money back but fans and want to be merchants will always be there to take whats left of your hands no matter what division.

[novella]

I find it hard to believe anything to do with fixing or dodgey has gone on with Venky's when Sporting intelligence has tweeted about everyone in Pune apart from Mrs D wanting rid of Kean. Surely the whole family would have to be on the same wavelength for that type of thing to happen?

[A cup of beans]

Was thinking the other day of what I would do if I had money and I wanted to but a club and make money from it by getting them relegated.

1 - Buy a club on the cheap and for sale

2 - Get rid of the manager and bring in my own manager who would have the ability to get away with shockingly bad results and decisions

3 - Get rid of the existing people running the club

4 - sell the best players and bring people in on the cheap

5 - stay away from the ground and let the manager take the flak

6 - leave no trace

Sound familiar?

Depressingly familiar..

[Veevs]

Lets look at this from a slightly different angle.. ask yourselves this.

Do you think you as an individual could have sold sponsorship to one of the widest broadcasted sporting tournaments in the world for one season?

So you buy the local corner shop, do you then go and stick up charity advertising instead of your own company name as the main sign? (a clue.. You buy a company as a marketing tool.. but you do not advertise your own brand.. )

You just started a company building houses.. You are not sure what your doing, so your first choice of advisor is to ask the guys who are selling the bricks as to what bricks you should buy? Then just to be sure you ask the brick boys who would lay them for you, so of course on their advise you go to their partner company who specialises in bricklaying.

You then hire on advise from your bricklaying friends one of the labourers who happens to be a full time employee to be the foreman of your new shiny company, but the houses get built in a really odd shape and are not fit for purpose.. so what would you do?

Does not take a rocket scientist to work out there is more to this than meets the eye.. and I excluded ditties like firing one of the best teams in the uk (JW is now where..? oh yeah with the current EPL champions).. giving away your best bricklayers because they did not agree with you (for them to end up winning acolades for their work ala Nelsen).. christ I could waffle forever but YOU ALL get the idea.

[phili]

Yes, no doubt on everything, outcomes of individual games, correct score, first goalscorers, half time/full time and so on and so on. Not just on the relegation market. A large bet like that that on one specific outcome would still raise eyebrows to put it mildly.

Plus, funny how it looked like that bet would have come sadly unstuck as late into the season as the Sunderland home match with just nine games to go.

Only with regulated bookmakers (ladbrokes, william hill etc) would these amounts have been queried. Bookies in asia would not even bat an eyelid at this amount being bet.

Also odds lengthened for our relegation after Sunderland match so you'd have made even more money putting bets on us being relegated at this time or they were hedging their bets just in case.

[Veevs]

I find it hard to believe anything to do with fixing or dodgey has gone on with Venky's when Sporting intelligence has tweeted about everyone in Pune apart from Mrs D wanting rid of Kean. Surely the whole family would have to be on the same wavelength for that type of thing to happen?

Phillip or Kamy, Nixon and an awful lot of others stated Mrs D and Bling Rao where at odds.. funny thing is this whole mess makes it so so so much more plausable.

Lets face it something has to be going on somewhere or we are as Einstein would put it.. "||The one question that makes me hazy, am I or the others crazy||"

[PAFELL]

Phillip or Kamy, Nixon and an awful lot of others stated Mrs D and Bling Rao where at odds.. funny thing is this whole mess makes it so so so much more plausable.

Lets face it something has to be going on somewhere or we are as Einstein would put it.. "||The one question that makes me hazy, am I or the others crazy||"

Something I do not get. If all four venkys are equal owners. Each with a 25% share. How come ONE has all the power. If 3 say sack Kean and one says no, how come the sole vote carries the day? I am also surprised that a women hold s the power over blokes in their culture - always thought it was the other way round. Unless of course, they are only a front and do not own the club.