[Archived] Steve Kean's Future Set To Be Discussed

[True Blue & White]

2. Their assertion of "confusion" lends credence to suggestions that they are corrupt or incompetent. What is there to be confused about? Let me help you Venkys (free of charge, no consulting fee):

a. Sack Kean immediately.

b. Sack Agnew immediately.

c. Sack Newsham immediately.

d. Don't listen to JA, don't speak to him and don't socialize with him.

e. Contact John Williams and Tom Finn.

f. Apologize to both.

g. Ask their advice.

h. If one or both are available, hire them on whatever terms they request.

i. Let them (or their suggested CEO) hire a new manager on an expedited basis, without your input (which, after all, would likely be "confused").

You are making the assumption Venky's actually have the power to do any of those things. Things are just so strange and so many things don't add up I don't think Venky's truely own us. I reckon there is a difference in who the FA thinks has been financing this and who actually has...

Here is my unsubstantiated conspiracy theory. I don't think Venky's put hardly any money (if any) into Rovers so far and I don't think it was their money that paid the initial £23m asking price either. I think we are owned financially (but not legally) by Anderson and SEM.

Here's how I think it worked. Anderson and his company wanted a football club but knew FA rules prevented any party with a direct interest in another team from purchasing a team, this meant he either had to sell his business and cut all ties to football agency work to outright buy us himself OR get someone who would pass this test to be the face of ownership whilst he pulls the strings in the background and gives them money to play pretend owner.

All JA needed was someone who didn't know too much about football, ideally had come into money rather than earned it themselves and a bit clueless generally. Then he finds, Venky's perfect! He explain his 'problem' to them and promises that if they act as token owners they will get untold riches via the free promotion the Premier League will give their company, he sells them a situation where it appears they can't lose.

Venky's agree and SEM uses various off-shore and money wiring methods get a lump sum of cash from their bank account to Venky's, who then buy the club. Venky's then take on Jerome's company to act as 'advisors' to explain why he and his cohorts would be seen around the place so often and better still, to set up a financial channel between the two so SEM can funnel any money from Ewood back to JE and his chums at HQ. Because this relationship is between Venky's and SEM, and not Rovers and SEM this means any transactions between the two are private and out of reach from the football governing bodies.

A wild conspiracy or entirely plausible? It's the only way I can explains Venky's reluctance to move on sacking Kean but being quick and assured when sacking Sam and Hunt. It's the only reason that would explain why they can't sack Kean and why they can't sell the club (even though they probably regret ever meeting Jerome Anderson).

[Savory]

another wild conspiracy

[Hasta]

You are making the assumption Venky's actually have the power to do any of those things. Things are just so strange and so many things don't add up I don't think Venky's truely own us. I reckon there is a difference in who the FA thinks as been financing this and who actually has...

Here is my unsubstantiated conspiracy theory. I don't think Venky's put hardly any money (if any) into Rovers so far and I don't think it was their money that paid the initial £23m asking pirce either. I think we are owned financially (but not legally) by Anderson and SEM.

Here's how I think it worked. Anderson and his company wanted a football club but knew FA rules prevented any party with a direct interest in another team be any part of an ownership team somewhere else, this meant he either had to sell his business and cut all ties to outright buy us himself OR get someone who would pass this test to be the face of ownership whilst he pulls the strings in the background.

All JA needed was someone who didn't know too much about football, ideally had come into money rather than earned it themselves and a bit clueless generally. Then he finds, Venky's perfect! He explain his 'problem' to them and promises that if they act as token owners they will get untold riches via the free promotion the Premier League will give their company, he sells them a situation where it appears they can't lose.

Venky's agree and SEM uses various off-shore and money wiring methods get a lump sum of cash from their bank account to Venky's, who then buy the club. Venky's then take on Jerome's company to act as 'advisors' to explain why he and his coherts would be seen around the place so often and better still, to set up a financial channel between the two so SEM can funnel any money from Ewood back to JE and his chums at HQ. Because this relationship is between Venky's and SEM, and not Rovers and SEM this means any tyransactions between the two are private and out of reach from the football governing bodies.

A wild conspiracy or entirely plausible? It's the only way I can explains Venky's reluctance to move on sacking Kean but being quick and assured when sacking Sam and Hunt. It's the only reason that would explain why they can't sack Kean and why they can't sell (even though they probably regret ever meeting Venky's).

12 months ago I'd have laughed at you. Not any more. It is one of the few scenarios that explains what is happening at the moment.

[j166429]

So in reality nobody knows what's going on then???

The ITKers have been telling us for the past week SK's sacking was imminent. Then it was definitely going to be on Wednesday. Now Venkatesh says they're all confused...

For the past 18 months we've just been going through one constant cycle of getting our hopes up (Thanks to the ITK's), SK's press conferences , bad news, then Venky's saying they're here for the long term/It's their baby/We're confused.

I don't think I can take much more....

p.s.

For got to add "conspiracy" theories to that repetitive list

[Rovermatt]

You are making the assumption Venky's actually have the power to do any of those things. Things are just so strange and so many things don't add up I don't think Venky's truely own us. I reckon there is a difference in who the FA thinks as been financing this and who actually has...

Here is my unsubstantiated conspiracy theory. I don't think Venky's put hardly any money (if any) into Rovers so far and I don't think it was their money that paid the initial £23m asking pirce either. I think we are owned financially (but not legally) by Anderson and SEM.

Here's how I think it worked. Anderson and his company wanted a football club but knew FA rules prevented any party with a direct interest in another team from purchasing a team, this meant he either had to sell his business and cut all ties to football agency work to outright buy us himself OR get someone who would pass this test to be the face of ownership whilst he pulls the strings in the background and gives them money to play pretend owner.

All JA needed was someone who didn't know too much about football, ideally had come into money rather than earned it themselves and a bit clueless generally. Then he finds, Venky's perfect! He explain his 'problem' to them and promises that if they act as token owners they will get untold riches via the free promotion the Premier League will give their company, he sells them a situation where it appears they can't lose.

Venky's agree and SEM uses various off-shore and money wiring methods get a lump sum of cash from their bank account to Venky's, who then buy the club. Venky's then take on Jerome's company to act as 'advisors' to explain why he and his cohorts would be seen around the place so often and better still, to set up a financial channel between the two so SEM can funnel any money from Ewood back to JE and his chums at HQ. Because this relationship is between Venky's and SEM, and not Rovers and SEM this means any transactions between the two are private and out of reach from the football governing bodies.

A wild conspiracy or entirely plausible? It's the only way I can explains Venky's reluctance to move on sacking Kean but being quick and assured when sacking Sam and Hunt. It's the only reason that would explain why they can't sack Kean and why they can't sell (even though they probably regret ever meeting Venky's).

Something like this survives while I have posts deleted for calling Jerome Anderson a cretin who will look unfavourably on a takeover.

That said, I think the above post is entirely plausible.

[1864roverite]

I cannot understand why no one else has picked up what has been happening.

There clearly is a mole hunt going on and the different snippets of so called inside information have all been various forms of mis information designed to weed out the leak within the VenkyKeanscum OUT unit.

I wonder why it is we havent heard from our pal MG Road recently?

Kamy and Cryer have always provided good information so why then have we seen a lot of contradicting info ?

There are others amongst us who have lines of communication with ex footballers, staff and the like and it seems to me that wherever you look there is some sort of misinformation being put around. All designed to try and find the leak.

I dont understand the reason for todays clueless announcement. It doesnt make any sense and sort of rams home to the real Rovers fans that we really are up ###### creak without a paddle.

My own thoughts from viewing the video is that the venky mouthpievce was under some real pressure, he was nervous and dry and that tells me he is reading from a prepared script, one designed to deflect the attention of what is really happening.

Add this to the current status of the venkydome assets plummetting, the bad news, the attacks from the media, the KEANSCUM out protests, relegatioon, players not signing, players leaving, the in fighting at the club in the senior management tier, the fans voting with their own feet, the season ticket fiasco and so on and it all adds up to a potential sale being discussed.

I have no insider information to share but it really is so obvious. I dont believe Anderson would have been with KEANSCUM in public because if any Rovers fan worth his/her salt had come across them there would have been a turmoil of abuse hurled towards him/them.

The one bit of good news I believe that BROCKHALL cannot be sold there is a covenant in place with a long long term attached to it.

I think in 4 weeks or so KEANSCUM will be gone one way or the other. The club might be sold, it might be in administration one things for certain, in either scenario KEANSCUM wont be manager. I have resigned myself to that thought at this time.

I urge all Rovers fans who have renewed to cancel their tickets and get their money back. If we go into admin you wont see it again. if the club is sold there will be opportunities to renew before the season.

BRFC needs an owner who really does care, what Venkys have done is only prove they dont have a clue on how to run a club. The only thing they have done is mirror its manager because he hasnt got a ###### clue either, a marriage made in hell it is !

[tomphil]

You are making the assumption Venky's actually have the power to do any of those things. Things are just so strange and so many things don't add up I don't think Venky's truely own us. I reckon there is a difference in who the FA thinks has been financing this and who actually has...

Here is my unsubstantiated conspiracy theory. I don't think Venky's put hardly any money (if any) into Rovers so far and I don't think it was their money that paid the initial £23m asking price either. I think we are owned financially (but not legally) by Anderson and SEM.

Here's how I think it worked. Anderson and his company wanted a football club but knew FA rules prevented any party with a direct interest in another team from purchasing a team, this meant he either had to sell his business and cut all ties to football agency work to outright buy us himself OR get someone who would pass this test to be the face of ownership whilst he pulls the strings in the background and gives them money to play pretend owner.

All JA needed was someone who didn't know too much about football, ideally had come into money rather than earned it themselves and a bit clueless generally. Then he finds, Venky's perfect! He explain his 'problem' to them and promises that if they act as token owners they will get untold riches via the free promotion the Premier League will give their company, he sells them a situation where it appears they can't lose.

Venky's agree and SEM uses various off-shore and money wiring methods get a lump sum of cash from their bank account to Venky's, who then buy the club. Venky's then take on Jerome's company to act as 'advisors' to explain why he and his cohorts would be seen around the place so often and better still, to set up a financial channel between the two so SEM can funnel any money from Ewood back to JE and his chums at HQ. Because this relationship is between Venky's and SEM, and not Rovers and SEM this means any transactions between the two are private and out of reach from the football governing bodies.

A wild conspiracy or entirely plausible? It's the only way I can explains Venky's reluctance to move on sacking Kean but being quick and assured when sacking Sam and Hunt. It's the only reason that would explain why they can't sack Kean and why they can't sell (even though they probably regret ever meeting Venky's).

People have alluded to this alleged explanation right from the off and it's the far most likely one in my opinion. Would explain almost everything. god knows who or how many threw their penny into the pot to raise the initial stake. Frightening stuff indeed.

[Rover_Shaun]

At least they have placated the small minority of Venkettes that live on another lesser known forum on another planet

"Communication? They have spoken to the fans today. What more do you want?" is the blinkered, blind and downright dangerous line some are taking

[Amo]

Of course it was a shock. They didn't even know we could get relegated.

[Mattyblue]

At least they have placated the small minority of Venkettes that live on another lesser known forum on another planet

"Communication? They have spoken to the fans today. What more do you want?" is the blinkered, blind and downright dangerous line some are taking

Who are these Venkettes?

Lets be frank none of this has added up since day 1. with everything that has gone on, do people REALLY think that thry put in 43 MILLION pounds of their own cash at the time of purchase?

[Rover_Shaun]

But what about that haircut and lack of moustache??

it didn't even look like him

[Savory]

he lost a bet we'd get relegated

[broadsword]

he lost a bet we'd get relegated

That made me chuckle!

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Meanwhile, Steve Kean starts back at Brockhall, walking around the corridors whistling away to himself, while spinning his keys, with not a care in the world.

Quaffing Champers with his mates Anderson and Agnew around the 'village',smiles all around,backslapping all the way.

Fiddling while Ewood Burns and some.

[onlyonejackwalker]

Who are these Venkettes?

Lets be frank none of this has added up since day 1. with everything that has gone on, do people REALLY think that they put in 43 pounds of their own cash at the time of purchase?

I think the Venkette's referral may be to fans on Roverstalk.

Fixed the other paragragh for you...

[Rover_Shaun]

he lost a bet we'd get relegated

They are taps enough to make such a bet.........though Stevie Weevie said there was not a chance

taps - thick as pig sh*t

[Fife Rover]

If venkys are so reluctant to sack Kean and have to pay up his contract, then all they (or any imminent new owners) have to do is call him in and offer him a new contract on a take it or leave it basis. This new contract would be as Reserve team coach and on the clear understanding that he would not be allowed to have ANY connection to the first team squad in any capacity at all, and of course with a new salary to reflect he duties and responsibility of his new job. Then leave it up to him to either accept or decline and leave the club.

[modes98]

Of course it was a shock. They didn't even know we could get relegated.

We've been relegated?

But Steve said this was impossible! I thought we finished top 10 and won the Carling Cup!

[jehrover]

This is all part of the game plan. Kean is in complete control here. His future has never been on the agenda. He went to India to explain what has been going on at the club and what the next stage in the process will be. Venky's are now telling us to wait a month so then on the eve of next season Kean will still be at the club and we won't have made any signings. Kean then has an excuse for what will be another relegation campaign next season. Venky's clearly aren't very happy people, presumably because Kean and his friends have taken them for a ride as much as they have taken us loyal supporters for a ride. I think the 'shaven' look that both Balaji and Venkatesh have taken on is bizarre, can't imagine why both of them would chose to completely shave off all their hair. Is this something to do with Rovers?

Unless the month refers to a possible timescale for a sale of the club then expect to see Kean here in July and August and beyond that. He is the one telling Venky's what to say and do, not the other way around.

[True Blue & White]

Are the Venky's Hindu? Apparently some Hindus shave their heads as a ritual to morn the loss of a loved one. Maybe the brothers realised recently they've killed their 'baby'?

[Blue blood]

Nice to see our communications are as strong as ever and our "owners" are still the inspiring leaders that we all know and love.

My word he didn't half look shell shocked in the interview. I think one of two things is happening:

1) They're selling, or are desperate to sell, and trying to get out asap. Looks like Rovers isn't good for venkey's health (it's the least they deserve) and so they're looking to offload asap.

2) They realise they have no control whatsoever, and a third party - wouldn't like to speculate who - is continuing to drive the vehicle that is rovers, and Venkeys are not enjoying the ride. They want off but the disaster that is rovers isn't stopping anytime soon.

Neither scenario would be a suprise. What does suprise me though is the interview - just what is the point? I can't see it as any advantage to anyone from us fans to any third parties involved.

[AllRoverAsia]

IMO In a month from now Kean will still be at the Club as Manager or above, no players will have been signed but there will have been player outgoings.

I understand that the parachute money is spread over 4 seasons/years - is it paid at the PL relegation rate (as of now) if we were to go straight down through the leagues?

IMO That Sky interview was either designed by 'someone' to make our 'owners' look like idiots or they are just that.

How many PL or just ex PL managers have ever been sacked in late May, June or July? Not many I suspect.

[KyleBRFC]

Fck me, this club is a complete and utter shambles, just when i thought things couldn't get worse, Wankatesh says there is confusion and doesn't know whats going on, how do these guys even own a business, they couldn't even wipe their own asses.

Until Venkys leave and take their lying, incompetent piece of ###### puppet with them, I'm done.

[john-rover]

This is all part of the game plan. Kean is in complete control here. His future has never been on the agenda. He went to India to explain what has been going on at the club and what the next stage in the process will be. Venky's are now telling us to wait a month so then on the eve of next season Kean will still be at the club and we won't have made any signings. Kean then has an excuse for what will be another relegation campaign next season. Venky's clearly aren't very happy people, presumably because Kean and his friends have taken them for a ride as much as they have taken us loyal supporters for a ride. I think the 'shaven' look that both Balaji and Venkatesh have taken on is bizarre, can't imagine why both of them would chose to completely shave off all their hair. Is this something to do with Rovers?

Unless the month refers to a possible timescale for a sale of the club then expect to see Kean here in July and August and beyond that. He is the one telling Venky's what to say and do, not the other way around.

Perhaps these two are so dumb that when a Financial Advisor told them they 'would have to take a severe haircut' Which I think is City jargon for a loss they went out and got a haircut. Do you think the reason for inactivity is that they are 'kicking the can down the road' for another bit of jargon and they are secretly negotiating a sale so why bother doing anything in the meantime. Someone mentioned he sounded nervous in the interview is this because he was being economical with the truth. I cant think of another reason they would do nothing apart from absolute bovine type dumbness.

[windymiller7]

This is all part of the game plan. Kean is in complete control here. His future has never been on the agenda. He went to India to explain what has been going on at the club and what the next stage in the process will be. Venky's are now telling us to wait a month so then on the eve of next season Kean will still be at the club and we won't have made any signings. Kean then has an excuse for what will be another relegation campaign next season. Venky's clearly aren't very happy people, presumably because Kean and his friends have taken them for a ride as much as they have taken us loyal supporters for a ride. I think the 'shaven' look that both Balaji and Venkatesh have taken on is bizarre, can't imagine why both of them would chose to completely shave off all their hair. Is this something to do with Rovers?

Unless the month refers to a possible timescale for a sale of the club then expect to see Kean here in July and August and beyond that. He is the one telling Venky's what to say and do, not the other way around.

Exactly, we've been half joking about it for months - many a true word & all that!

The "Venky's being a front" conspiracy theory - is this really such a far fetched idea - I think we all agree now it isn't, especially as myself and a colleague came up with an almost identical theory a day or two ago.

One thing we do know is that all is not as it would appear and it's gonna come out sooner or later, hopefully sooner but I think we can have a reasonable guess that it could be in about a month!