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I find it strange that who, in my perception, is the least powerful of the unholy Trinity should be the one to deliver this anaemic, incoherent rambling response to our concerns.

He is clearly in a bad place-poor lamb. Surely it should have been the organ grinding lass to break the two(or is it three) month silence?

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I have just heard the interview on SSN and I must say I am never been so insulted. They really do think they are dealing with a bunch of no brain idiots. Family they called us family I am offended. They have openly demonstrated their contempt for us the fans. What crap, " we listen to our parents( the fans) yet Kean is still in a job. They really do think they are superior and we are just a bunch of morons. Well intercourse them in the bottom. Every last one of them.

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So you're all in shock, are you Venkatesh? Well, let me tell you a thing or two.

Within a matter of weeks of the Raos taking over the club, some supporters were telling you that you were taking the club in the wrong direction. You did nothing. You carried on regardless. Towards the end of your first season, more and more fans were doubting your [in]actions. We missed out on relegation by the skin of our teeth. You carried on regardless.

This season the majority of fans were telling you that things at the club had to change. Towards the end of this last season, the whole ground was telling you that things were dire. I don't think one fan was supporting your actions. Everyone, everyone was against the way you were running the club. We went down and you did nothing.

Well, actually, that's not true is it? You didn't just ignore the fans concerns, you didn't "not do anything" - you fought against anyone who dared tell you to change tack. We've had fans marching and staying in the ground after the game, because it was agreed that they could do that. What happened - the speaker system volume was turned up and they were drowned out. You banned banners inside Ewood in order to silence any protests. More than that, we saw the incredible sight of the stweards going into the crowd and physically confronting angry and worried fans. When Paul Hunt asked you to consider that the club was being run badly and you needed to heed the message, you did nothing until the letter became public, then you sacked him. When the whole ground was telling you that Kean had to go, you backed him. When Jerome A. launched a tirade against the rover's fans on national TV, we heard nothing from you - in effect, you backed him as well.

So you now portray this image of poor Indian owners who didn't expect this outcome. How far from the truth could that possibly be, when you actively fought against any voice who wanted to talk to you in good faith? Politicians were willing to talk to you, the sponsors were willing to talk to you and employees at the club were desperate to talk to you - they probably still are. You shunned the lot of them. Fans forum members went out to Pune and they did talk to you, but you lied to them.

Now then, we are in a position where season ticket sales are falling faster than ever before. Some fans reckon it's because people don't want to put money into your pockets. Well, the truth is that many of the people not renewing are doing so because they have been trying to get the message over to you, that you were putting the club into very dangerous waters, - but you have fought that viewpoint every step of the way, so the only other option they see, is to let you do, what you are intent on doing. There's nothing else they can say.

All this has been coming to a head since you bought the club. A club that was one of the most friendly clubs in the land has become a place of disappointment and hatred. You might argue that some of these actions haven't been ordered directly from Pune, but it's your club, it's your responsibility. You knew of the problems but fought against anyone telling you about them. You have to take responsibility for the last 18 months. There is another thread on here asking whether the fans would forgive you if Kean was sacked. Well, many fans would indeed come back to Ewood in the hope that you have changed direction. As for trusting you ever again, many would say "never". Many would say trust has to be earned and there's a hell of a long way to go before that happens.

My advice to you would be sell up. Get out because you have no future here.

Now would not a decent reporter worth his/her salt point out a few of these facts based on the verbal vomit the turd spewed forth. The month thing, IMHO, is a cooling off period, someone has them convinced that in a month we will have forgotten about the wrongdoings and be getting excited for the upcoming season. NOWT will change, not a thing.

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Increased workload at the moment so I didn’t have the displeasure of seeing Venkatesh’s interview first time round this morning and have only just had to endure it. However, my initial reaction to having viewed it is a need to express just how intensely insulted I feel. As someone who works with young people, I am highly sensitised to condescension as they despise being patronised. So for Venkatesh to insinuate that the owners’ attitude towards the fans is that of a parent towards a petulant child, well… Also, for him to appear to believe that we would be contentedly placated by his vacuous nonsense and complete avoidance of the imminently crucial issues was immensely offensive. Bringing small children’s tears into the discourse was an extremely vulgar, transparent and deliberate courting of the press’ sympathy. I found the insistence that he and his family have done nothing wrong ever startlingly inappropriate on numerous levels. Finally, the claim that he had been put off two meals was embarrassingly ridiculous. This individual appears extraordinarily incapable of empathising, wearing the shoes of a loyal BRFC workers whose concern is not whether they might be might not be in the mood for eating their food but whether or not they will actually be able to afford to buy it soon.

To my mind, the interview portrayed a man completely out of touch with thousands of fans who can and probably will affect his fate. Perhaps we are viewed as lesser mortals, somehow inferior to the wealthy Rao family Suffragettes who attempted to burn down the Nuttall Street Stand, the General Strikes, etc... Underestimate Blackburnians at your peril. Passions may have been lying dormant for so long that, who knows, you may have awakened the Kraken?

Suffragettes who attempted to burn down the Nuttall Street Stand

I must admit that I haven't heard of that one, could you enlighten me please ?

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Now see both parts of the interview. Must say it was well done as I couldn't see the strings. The give away was the nodding head, little mouth movement and an accent anyone could impersonate.

Have Sandie Shaw singing 'Puppet on a String'' as background music and it would be perfect.

''Bless us ...we have done nothing wrong in our lives'' - classic stuff. Millions of Chickens and 20,000 plus Rovers fans may disagree.

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is there more than a 40 second clip of the interview out there? he had to have said more than the brief clip that was on the ssn site....

as i've said before, these guys need public relations help badly....i find it difficult to believe venkatesh rao is as stupid and inept as he sounded in that interview. he was stuttering, unprepared, and utterly blank on what was to happen next.

i doubt it is because they are in the process of selling the club as some have suggested. it would be good to see more of that 'interview' because they had to have asked him more questions than that, and probed a bit deeper...horrible reporting by ssn.

i only hope these guys get the crap together and provide more detail on what they are planning...

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Suffragettes who attempted to burn down the Nuttall Street Stand

I must admit that I haven't heard of that one, could you enlighten me please ?

Me neither, thought it was just a couple of smack heads in the 80's who tried that. But no. Edith Rigby from Preston according to google. She'd have been better off just putting the kettle on if you ask me.

Anyway, has Kean gone on his holidays yet?

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is there more than a 40 second clip of the interview out there? he had to have said more than the brief clip that was on the ssn site....

as i've said before, these guys need public relations help badly....i find it difficult to believe venkatesh rao is as stupid and inept as he sounded in that interview. he was stuttering, unprepared, and utterly blank on what was to happen next.

i doubt it is because they are in the process of selling the club as some have suggested. it would be good to see more of that 'interview' because they had to have asked him more questions than that, and probed a bit deeper...horrible reporting by ssn.

i only hope these guys get the crap together and provide more detail on what they are planning...

Hey not sure what you mean.. The one on SSN is 1min 50 (Here).. and don't know why people keep mentioning within a month, at the end of the interview he is clearly asked about timeframes within a month and he said extremely clearly well I don't know about that.. he also failed to look at the camera when he said decisions need to be made about the manager and players.. odds on he is lying there and those decisions have been made.

My opinion is Mrs D has got her way and they are selling (from what has been said and what has gone on she wanted to sell a while back but Balaji wanted his toy.. now she won't budge on Kean so his little toy is broken and useless so only thing left for him is to give in) but first going to get someone in and see what they can get for as many players as they can, in the mean time Kean is staying. If they don't find a buyer willing to offer what they want, and oddly they can be pretty forceful on that front, then expect Kean to be around for a long while to come.

As for not believing they are that stupid, remember they did not build Venkys, and look at what they have done to our Rovers, their dad was the brains that created Venkys they just inherited it (and we know historically how family inherited businesses can implode when daddies spoilt little kids take over) so I am pretty confident that him coming accross that stupid and utterly clueless in an interview is probably a good reflection of his intelect as a whole. Ask yourself have you ever heard of any senior exec at a multinational company openly admiting that he is confused and does not know what he is doing...? Management 101 never appear utterly clueless, always at least pretend to have a plan because it isn't going to help your staff, or your suppliers and definatly won't inspire confidence from your customers by admiting otherwise. We know for a fact what Balaji is like, a wanna be with his failed Bollywood venture, fast cars and famous 'friends'.

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So you're all in shock, are you Venkatesh? Well, let me tell you a thing or two.

Within a matter of weeks of the Raos taking over the club, some supporters were telling you that you were taking the club in the wrong direction. You did nothing. You carried on regardless. Towards the end of your first season, more and more fans were doubting your [in]actions. We missed out on relegation by the skin of our teeth. You carried on regardless.

This season the majority of fans were telling you that things at the club had to change. Towards the end of this last season, the whole ground was telling you that things were dire. I don't think one fan was supporting your actions. Everyone, everyone was against the way you were running the club. We went down and you did nothing.

Well, actually, that's not true is it? You didn't just ignore the fans concerns, you didn't "not do anything" - you fought against anyone who dared tell you to change tack. We've had fans marching and staying in the ground after the game, because it was agreed that they could do that. What happened - the speaker system volume was turned up and they were drowned out. You banned banners inside Ewood in order to silence any protests. More than that, we saw the incredible sight of the stweards going into the crowd and physically confronting angry and worried fans. When Paul Hunt asked you to consider that the club was being run badly and you needed to heed the message, you did nothing until the letter became public, then you sacked him. When the whole ground was telling you that Kean had to go, you backed him. When Jerome A. launched a tirade against the rover's fans on national TV, we heard nothing from you - in effect, you backed him as well.

So you now portray this image of poor Indian owners who didn't expect this outcome. How far from the truth could that possibly be, when you actively fought against any voice who wanted to talk to you in good faith? Politicians were willing to talk to you, the sponsors were willing to talk to you and employees at the club were desperate to talk to you - they probably still are. You shunned the lot of them. Fans forum members went out to Pune and they did talk to you, but you lied to them.

Now then, we are in a position where season ticket sales are falling faster than ever before. Some fans reckon it's because people don't want to put money into your pockets. Well, the truth is that many of the people not renewing are doing so because they have been trying to get the message over to you, that you were putting the club into very dangerous waters, - but you have fought that viewpoint every step of the way, so the only other option they see, is to let you do, what you are intent on doing. There's nothing else they can say.

All this has been coming to a head since you bought the club. A club that was one of the most friendly clubs in the land has become a place of disappointment and hatred. You might argue that some of these actions haven't been ordered directly from Pune, but it's your club, it's your responsibility. You knew of the problems but fought against anyone telling you about them. You have to take responsibility for the last 18 months. There is another thread on here asking whether the fans would forgive you if Kean was sacked. Well, many fans would indeed come back to Ewood in the hope that you have changed direction. As for trusting you ever again, many would say "never". Many would say trust has to be earned and there's a hell of a long way to go before that happens.

My advice to you would be sell up. Get out because you have no future here.

Well Said

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Miker Champions League

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We know for a fact what Balaji is like, a wanna be with his failed Bollywood venture, fast cars and famous 'friends'

We all know what is under a ponytail.......A horses arse.

Eh he's a rich guy spending money on the stuff he loves. What would you do if you had the sort of money he did? He also gives a significant amount of money to charity and his community. So I'm not sure how you can decide what Balaji is like "for a fact" based on what he spends money on.

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Just re-read Den's post and it is excellent.

Crucial point on them actively fighting those with different viewpoints:

"You didn't just ignore the fans concerns, you didn't "not do anything" - you fought against anyone who dared tell you to change"

Spot on.

How can Venk come out saying 'we listen to the fans'.

I can't think of ONE instance where they have listened to anyone without an agenda to make money from them.

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Eh he's a rich guy spending money on the stuff he loves. What would you do if you had the sort of money he did? He also gives a significant amount of money to charity and his community. So I'm not sure how you can decide what Balaji is like "for a fact" based on what he spends money on.

He spends his money on something that he does not understand, and then "mismanages" it to the point where it is disfunctional and employees could lose their jobs and 20,000 plus fans are calling for him to leave.

Based on those "facts", I would say he's a complete arsehole.

Any objections ?

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He spends his money on something that he does not understand, and then "mismanages" it to the point where it is disfunctional and employees could lose their jobs and 20,000 plus fans are calling for him to leave.

Based on those "facts", I would say he's a complete arsehole.

Any objections ?

Not a one Jim.

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