[Archived] Steve Kean's Future Set To Be Discussed

[supergrabbi01]

Everything about our club is bizarre, even Venkatesh's image change...

[davulsukur]

Well he has a point, we can't have another season in which we spend the entire time at loggerheads with the manager- alas we probably will.

True, obviously it's up to Venkys to make the change for that not to happen, but in reality if they stick with Kean, with all the (justified) fan opposition, all that's going to happen is another relegation.

For whatever reason venkys can't seem to see we need a united club to push forward for a return to the PL.

[ABBEY]

Empty effin words! A blind man on a galloping horse could see that that venketash is absolutely and completely bloody clueless. Body language suggests that he/they simply don't know where to turn next.

He even adopted Venkeans slidy eyes looking anywhere but the interview routine.

[Blueheart]

Unfortunately the position is only going to get worse before it gets better.

It is a very hard thing to say but Blackburn is not Rovers anymore. To hasten the position as far as I can see it the fans need to totally boycot ticket sales and merchadise to make any real protest.

Just imagine the first match in the Championship with no fans at Ewood Park, surely that and no money in the till would say everthing to venkys.

[bellamy11]

It annoys me more that he's spent decades at the club and still calls it 'Blackburn'.

I was born and lived in Blackburn for a couple of decades and have supported the club for 20-odd years and instinctively call us "Blackburn". Clearly more people seem to prefer "Rovers" but I've never quite understood that not using "Rovers" is somehow wrong or an indication of detachment. Perhaps I automatically do it now because people will not automatically know who I mean if I say "Rovers", but you're definitely not the first person to suggest on here that "We're 'Rovers', not 'Blackburn'".

[A cup of beans]

Well he has a point, we can't have another season in which we spend the entire time at loggerheads with the manager- alas we probably will.

It annoys me more that he's spent decades at the club and still calls it 'Blackburn'.

He should have chosen his words more carefully. It adds credibility to the claims that the fans have over-stepped a line.

'The Rovers' is how I refer to us.

[47er]

But their dad died in 1996.

So for the last 16 years, see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil, have increased Venky's in come massively creating a 1 billion pound empire. So the three monkeys have managed that, opening businesses in sectors & countries they had no experience in and yet have done well. Then they buy Rovers and get every move wrong? And then we have to consider all that's gone on top.

It just doesn't add up as at the end of the day. Stupid and naive people would never have lasted this long with their money and made the company what it is.

Something else is a foot.

That's how I feel too. I don't buy the "incompetent bit' anymore . Nor do I believe the family split story between the brothers and Desai either. That's been deliberately leaked imo by PR people.

Anyone with an ounce of sense or desire to see Rovers do well would have sacked Kean long ago, on the basis of results alone.

The "Sam Rant' was a sacking offence in its own right-----the back-stabbing, the language, the immature bigging himself up in to impress Rovers fans--------no way could a drunken liability like that be allowed to continue with any other club.

He continues with this club though and every journalist worth the name should be all over this to find out why? There is a big story there to be sure.

As to why Kean is quiet now----I assume said PR people have instructed him to be in the wake of the Sam rant.The longer he avoids any media contact the sooner the rest of the world will forget about it. Meantime, their blokes in suits will be talking to Sam's blokes in suits and doing everything they can to settle out of court. At that point Kean can re-emerge and refuse to discuss the matter as its been settled and confidentiality conditions apply to all parties.

[jim mk2]

I was born and lived in Blackburn for a couple of decades and have supported the club for 20-odd years and instinctively call us "Blackburn".

Very odd. Fans in the town always call us Rovers, never Blackburn. You've been dahn sahf too long.

[Ruaney]

I still cannot get past the fact that nobody will even ask Venkys 'Why is Kean still in a job?' Why hasn't he been fired yet? etc etc...

Their is no response to these questions that can be positive, NOTHING at all he has done has been good for this club so its just so unbelievable. The fact that all the press, FA, Premier League chiefs etc do not seem to see this either is just pure bewildering.

[jim mk2]

He continues with this club though and every journalist worth the name should be all over this to find out why? There is a big story there to be sure.

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There's a story for sure but it's "only" Rovers remember. Fans don't realise the southern-based media generally aren't interested in us. It was different when the nationals had big Manchester-based production bases but they finished 20 years ago. The Tottenham and Chelsea and West Ham-supporting press is glad to see the back of us.

Cryer will know more than has appeared in print but fear of litigation and weak editors at the LET are probably holding him back.

[OJRovers]

So, Kean has been to Zurich this week.

Venkatesh wasn't in the UK or India for his interview.

[booth]

Been out of the country for a bit so haven't had access to internet like I do in blighty.

However it seems I've missed nothing. Nothing's changed.

Incredible.

[Blackburn Ender]

Very odd. Fans in the town always call us Rovers, never Blackburn. You've been dahn sahf too long.

We call ourselves Rovers so people don't think we support Blackburn Olympic.

[PAFELL]

Very odd. Fans in the town always call us Rovers, never Blackburn. You've been dahn sahf too long.

Of course you would. Rovers is your local club. If we.mentioned rovers down south, were asked.which rovers. Bristol, Doncaster etc. So it becomes a habit to use Blackburn, instead of Rovers.

[jim mk2]

Of course you would. Rovers is your local club. If we.mentioned rovers down south, were asked.which rovers. Bristol, Doncaster etc. So it becomes a habit to use Blackburn, instead of Rovers.

You might but if I lived among the Tory voters (perish the thought) I would use the full name of Blackburn Rovers, and then Rovers at any subsequent mention.

[True Blue & White]

But their dad died in 1996.

So for the last 16 years, see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil, have increased Venky's in come massively creating a 1 billion pound empire.

:D

If you believe Venky's empire is worth anywhere near a billion you'll believe anything. Your still harping back to that Daily Mail report from a year a go are you?

And even if you do believe their collection of business are worth a 10 figure sum, why are you assuming they built it and not their parents?

Of course you would. Rovers is your local club. If we.mentioned rovers down south, were asked.which rovers. Bristol, Doncaster etc. So it becomes a habit to use Blackburn, instead of Rovers.

As a Southerner, when asked who I support I will always say "Blackburn" for the reasons you state above. I only use the term "Rovers" on here because if you don't you are accused of not being a 'real' fan.

[Rover_Shaun]

Maybe it was a 6 billion empire back in 96

[philipl]

With inherited wealth often comes a wildly detached view of the world.

Remember the clubs owners are from a wealthy background in a country where the gulf between rich and poor is a whole lot more than here in blighty - I don't have to go into great detail but the conditions in the outsourced UK call centres should tell you all you need to know about what the lower classes have to put up with, but also how the rich feel about them, and those places are "nice" compared to conditions on the streets. In any case, put yourself [i know, I know!] in their position, you're rich, you were raised so, never needing to graft for anything, given all you need/want, detached from the hardship, poverty and filth in the world - big houses, well-manicured gardens, food, cars, riches.

Compare that to the majority of us supporters, most of us will know what it's like to scrape a living, or go without, or have to reach for things. I currently have a car that's approaching 80,000 miles - I commute 500 miles a week - I'd really like a new one but I only have a couple of grand in the bank. Sure, it's not like it was in the 70s or 80s with 15% interest rates, no mobiles/computers/internet, and so on, but I know what hardship is and I know how to work hard to keep my head above water.

I'd argue that these guys simply don't have the first clue about business! It's the parents company, the parents wealth. We have what is in essence a bunch of spoilt kids arguing over a toy.

I also think that the business acumen isn't something that just appears, it's learned, earned if you will. And this lot simply don't demonstrate a whole lot of it. If the company were a start-up it'd have sunk without a trace a long time ago, but from what I can see it's an established business, and running those into the ground takes time, even if you are totally incompetent, your board(s), manager(s), workforce will effectively slow the process of total destruction with their "awkward" pride and work ethic. What a horror story.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it is plausible, to me, that the owners may genuinely be in a state of confusion, they may have just picked the wrong people to trust. I don't really pay too much attention to any of the rumours about ownership issues or shady elements pulling the strings in the background, but all of the dithering is strangling the club and it's a grave concern that they don't realise it.

A "proper" structure is required, John Williams saw it, Paul Hunt did too, and look what happened to them - so it's clear their opinions are being heard, just not generating the desired response. With more respect than he is due, Steve Kean is simply an elevated coach, I've worked with plenty of people, in some cases even good people, that have been elevated due to circumstances, and unless they're really lucky or incredibly clever they simply don't get on because they're not ready or prepared or supported - the fox in the hen house.

It's a shame that administration didn't happen this season, am I right in thinking that if that happened the administrators would come in, take over and look for someone to take on the debt thus freeing the club from the current incumbents in short order? No matter what you might think BRFC is still a desirable club and business, and with the right backing could be a perfectly well-run entity.

As the weeks have passed I've entered into the same haze that a lot of folk on here have, it's not "my" club any more, it's something else now, the spirit is still there, lurking, hidden and beaten down, but I simply can't see how anyone involved can be happy with what's happening at the moment, it all sounds like such a big shambles!

I've even tried to disengage, but as long as I've been a football fan I've been a Rovers fan, so I can't quit now, but it sure as hell is testing my resolve.

Lets just hope that there's some good news around the corner? We probably all need something to bring us up right now!

Absolutely spot on.

I have learnt to my enormous personal cost how dangerously bad the offspring of self-made business people can be to such an extent I would make dealing with 2nd generation wealth pretty well a no-no under most circumstances.

The old man not only set up the three kids and adopted Mrs D's hubby (tells us all we know about how much he rated his offspring) but also put a strong management team in place to keep running the show (for comparison Rovers could be still running today very happily in the Prem with essentially the same team Jack had appointed had the idiot Venky's not shown up).

It is also worth looking at the nature of the business- 19,000 agents all round India selling chicken feed at 10% margin to Venky's is the core. Not even the loons of Pune could cock that up. Nobody in their right mind is ever going to invest to compete against a business like that.

The old man invested in land around Pune- again something the kids would struggle to cock up.

For what it is worth, I will take a huge amount convincing now that we are suffering from mere incompetence. So much now stinks and stinks badly.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Well he has a point, we can't have another season in which we spend the entire time at loggerheads with the manager- alas we probably will.

He has a point, however only Venky's can stop that from happening by deciding to put our 'coach' out of his misery.

[arbitro]

He has a point, however only Venky's can stop that from happening by deciding to put our 'coach' out of his misery.

If the turd is sill there there will hardly be anybody at the games to be at loggerheads with. Perhaps this is part of the master plan?

[True Blue & White]

Tony Parkes is slagging the fans now! He can sod off too!

I am reminded of Whittle Blues Video. Tony Parkes interview around the time Dalgish was appointed.

Search that. its a revealing insight and shows his selfless motives- to actually be selfish.

Sorry I disagree that Parkes is 'slagging off the fans', he is just saying the inconvenient truth that IF Venky's are here to stay it's better to get behind them than slate them all the time. But it's clear from the rest of the interview that he'd like nothing more than to see the back of Venky's and Kean.

[Amo]

Tony Parkes is slagging the fans now! He can sod off too!

I am reminded of Whittle Blues Video. Tony Parkes interview around the time Dalgish was appointed.

Search that. its a revealing insight and shows his selfless motives- to actually be selfish.

You don't half fly off the handle, don't you?

If he was "slagging off the fans" he'd be telling everyone to support Kean, yadda yadda.

He's putting the onus on Venky's to sack the bugger.

Not the same thing.

[Mattyblue]

You might but if I lived among the Tory voters (perish the thought) I would use the full name of Blackburn Rovers, and then Rovers at any subsequent mention.

That's the one james!

[rovers238]

not good enough, and who seems to tell whopper after whopper and enjoys winding up the supporters.

Or any other branded burger!!

[rigger]

Very odd. Fans in the town always call us Rovers, never Blackburn. You've been dahn sahf too long.

I also say Blackburn when asked who do I support.