[Archived] euro12 thread

[roversoutsider]

Yeah right. Like Rovers can defend. Did you evne see them last season?

I was referring to the tactics. Roy showing how its done. We played a f*cked up version of how england played.

[AllRoverAsia]

I thought this was a Blackburn message board? Are their not lots of non-English people who read this? Maybe I wouldn't say things like that if a great deal of English fans weren't so arrogant. And I have heard people say much worse about my country.

Irrelevant now anyway the Italians have won the game.

Blackburn is in England and on the English thing you are a TIT for that comment. You may have noticed that most posts if not all today were from English fans so what response would you expect. WUM.

Anyway back to the game. We were crap. Ashley Young taking a penalty! Woy was havin a laugh. Italy outplayed us over most of the game. Young and Rooney were liabilities for most of the match. Why do English players always get knackered - the Italians weren't.

Hate say say it but Terry was immense.

[RoyRover]

England have done well to get out of the group. They are still a poor side, who are no further on than the World Cup. Some of their players blatantly aren't good enough and their tactics are pre-historic.

[Jock]

Absolute codswallop. This 'anti-football' brigade are so far up their own arses they can see daylight. We stopped a superior team from scoring in 120 minutes. Sure we bottled it in the shoot out, AGAIN, but that was a commendable performance from England. It's not all about tippy tappy, fall over when someone pressures you, football y'know.

We need both strengths.

[RibbleValleyRover]

Absolute codswallop. This 'anti-football' brigade are so far up their own arses they can see daylight. We stopped a superior team from scoring in 120 minutes. Sure we bottled it in the shoot out, AGAIN, but that was a commendable performance from England. It's not all about tippy tappy, fall over when someone pressures you, football y'know.

Even Ireland who were the worst side in the tournmament managed to string 5 passes together. The reason why England are so ###### is because they have no midfield, they can't tackle and can't pass.

[JAL]

The only crticism I can throw at Hodgson right now is that he should have showed some balls and dropped Rooney, other than that Young and Milner offered nothing out wide and if your wide men are nonexistent your chances are going to be limited somewhat.

The other thing was that every time England did something good they followed it up by doing something bad which just aint good enough.

Really think that our British food or the amount of suger, fats, and other substances in it, doesnt help our sportsmen at all.

[roverandout]

we were ######, we didnt deserve anything, ashley young was a waste of space, rooney did (Please don't use that word again) all, gerrard dissapeared for the whole game, terry was imense as was cole and johnson and parker, the rest were a ###### embarrasment, i give up with england, why cant we keep the ball? is it so hard? why did we give pirlo, in fact all their players so much space the whole game, totally embarrased with that performance, we need to work on technique with our youngsters, we havent played well once in this tournament, glad we are out as germany would have stuffed us, why didnt we show any ambition to attack?

[T4E]

This is the website of an English football club so the vast majority of members are English. Be careful

Yes. People may get annoyed, and then they may take to their keyboard and tell you how annoyed they are.

[The Rover of Finland]

If someone had to fail I am glad it was Young. He is a disgusting diver. Refs have seen very well fair contacts and dives but Young cheated again and Italian player misses the semis.

Never liked Italians (mostly because history of diving) but England deserved nothing. Hodgson´s style perhaps was the only way win games with this squad but no one wants to see that football ever again. It was like Kean´s tactics but England did know how to defend.

[Kamy100]

No complaints here, the better team won. England were poor, briefly in the first half we put them under pressure but bar that we did nothing. Although we gave him to much time and space, have to say Pirlo was superb and his penalty was genius.

[jim mk2]

(1) we haven't produced a player with anywhere near the level of technical ability since Gazza to enable us to compete with the top nations,

Not true - Rooney's skill level is the equal of Gacoigne's. At his best (which he wasn't here) he's one of the world's best forwards.

Hart's relative inexperience showed in the shoot-out, diving a fraction too early while Buffoon delayed his dives a fraction. I don't why Ashley Young was selected for the shoot-out or why he was still on the pitch - he has had a poor tournament and his confidence is shot to pieces.

I also don't know why more goalkeepers don't stay on their feet in the centre of goal - they'd save just as many penalties as they do by diving.

[MarkBRFC71]

Absolute codswallop. This 'anti-football' brigade are so far up their own arses they can see daylight. We stopped a superior team from scoring in 120 minutes. Sure we bottled it in the shoot out, AGAIN, but that was a commendable performance from England. It's not all about tippy tappy, fall over when someone pressures you, football y'know.

There was nothing at all commendable about being THAT poor - we were shocking. Our players are light years behind the top nations technically and tactically, not to mention football intelligence and fitness-wise.

[jim mk2]

Uh huh.

They played like Steve Kean's Blackburn Rovers. To me that's disgusting.

Since when has Kean's Rovers defended or shown the shape and commitment like England have in this tournament ? You're talking rubbish.

[Salgado Is A Hero]

Blackburn is in England and on the English thing you are a TIT for that comment. You may have noticed that most posts if not all today were from English fans so what response would you expect. WUM.

Anyway back to the game. We were crap. Ashley Young taking a penalty! Woy was havin a laugh. Italy outplayed us over most of the game. Young and Rooney were liabilities for most of the match. Why do English players always get knackered - the Italians weren't.

Hate say say it but Terry was immense.

If I'm a WUM then that makes you an enabler for replying. Enabler's are worse as WUM's need them to succeed. Didn't care what reaction I got I just like to make it known to anyone who has failed to see it that England aren't a top international side. Before games, I don't like to gloat or anything.

Terry did play very well. So did Glen Johnson.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Justice done, we never came out after half time. In spite of all the Premier League bally hoo we're further away from the top sides than at any point in my lifetime. Germany would have destroyed us in the semi's.

Scores

Hart 7 Dealt with everything thrown at him, just couldn't do anything with the pens.

Johnson 7 Defended well but pushed back as the game went on

Terry 7 Battled away all night, made dozens of blocks

Lescott 7 same as Terry , a wall

Cole 7 The usual class performance , up and down the field, I've seen him score some great pens going high, changed his technique tonight and missed.

Milner 3 A modest player with a lot to be modest about, never, ever international class.

Parker 6 Ran his socks off as usual, turned his blood to water but he's another England player that's not international class

Gerrard 5 Is it me but he just looks out of place playing centrally in a midfield four ?

Young 3 Started the competition poorly and just got worse. Shouldn't have played tonight, the penalty miss summed up his competition

Welbeck 3 Showpony, he's been found out at this level, nowhere near good enough

Rooney 4 Totally off the pace, he's carrying half a stone and he's lost a yard of pace

Subs Walcott ? Was he playing ?

Carroll 6 Did his best but very limited at this level

Henderson ? Says it all really, can't get in a poor Liverpool team.

[roverandout]

which national side do you support salgado?

[RoyRover]

Even Ireland who were the worst side in the tournmament managed to string 5 passes together. The reason why England are so ###### is because they have no midfield, they can't tackle and can't pass.

I don't think we strung three passes together.

[roverandout]

dont agree about parker, he was excellent, what do you expect him to do? triple summersaults? hes a ball-winning midfielder who does it well and hes def international class in that respect, as for wellbeck, hes young and has some good touches and in time he will get better

[Silencio]

The back 5 did well tonight, Terry in particular and we started off ok but Pirlo gained more and more control of the game. He's head and shoulders above anyone England can offer and is one of the best midfielder of the last 25 years. We did well enough at the back to take it to penalties and I think Roy's done well to get this group to where they got. They are clearly nowhere near the remaining teams in terms of technique and quality.

What was clear from watching us tonight is that our players are also nowhere near the top players in terms of fitness. Is it that our players can't look after themselves outside of the training ground? Every German player looked in absolutely perfect condition. Too many of ours look short-legged and out of breath (Rooney, Parker and Milner in particular).

[jim mk2]

England have done well to get out of the group. They are still a poor side, who are no further on than the World Cup. Some of their players blatantly aren't good enough and their tactics are pre-historic.

At international level England are an average to good side but they are not a poor side. They did well to reach the quarter-finals. As for "prehistoric tactics", there is nothing wrong with sound defence and commitment - qualities Rovers were lacking all season.

[Veevs]

Best team won on the night... usual English performance even down to penalties, just as we start to get hope we can do something we give it away in the hardest possible fashion. As for the players no comment beyond saying Young was awful to say the least.. not only his missed penalty but his performances in every game this tournament have been horrific.

Next time we may have a chance with the young lads coming through, the likes of Wilshire, Jones, Smalling, the Ox, Walker, Rose, jonjo and the rest (and there are plenty of them).

[Salgado Is A Hero]

which national side do you support salgado?

Proud Scot. Like I've said previously my dislike of England's football teams stems from a large portion of their fans and media's usual arrogance.

[roverandout]

i just dont know where we go from here, we never seem to learn, how come germany have produced such a world class squad when they were as ###### as us 10 years ago, they are no nearer to becoming better teqhnicians, it makes me so damn sad and upset that we havent learned from past tournaments

[jim mk2]

Justice done, we never came out after half time. In spite of all the Premier League bally hoo we're further away from the top sides than at any point in my lifetime.

Worse than the Taylor and McClaren teams ?

[roverandout]

sorry salgado but your clearly a bitter scot then, whose own national side is far behind everyone else, you're at the same level as the faroe islands and the likes of moldova, i am not saying that out of spite either, if i was you i would take more interest in my own national team's vast shortcomings