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You can't take anything away from the Italians, they were superb tonight. Pirlo is a Godly player, world-class in every sense.

The Germans just couldn't handle going 2-0 down. Until then they were in the game, but once the second went in they just lost their confidence and their bottle, no player wanted the ball, there was no penetration, they were reduced to lumping the ball into the box over and over and it didn't work.

Looking forward to the final.

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Italy played well in the first half but I think that was a large part due to the tactical setup and team selection Low put out. Podolski has been a complete non entity in the tournament, no way he should have started. I think it was also a mistake to play Kroos, Low completely changed the central midfield and it just didn't work at all. Gomez up front was probably a mistake as well, Klose has better movement and would have linked up the play better which was clear in the second half.

Germany will still be a force (perhaps more so) in 2 years time.

Historically, Germany is in there every time except 2004 was their only dud of a tournament in recent years, I'd have to look it up but last world cup, semi-finalist, 2008 Euro, Finalists, 2006 World Cup, semi-finalists, 2002, finalists but I've got to think this hurts the psyche but they already have this consistency. Michael Ballack is the one who said both goals Italy scored had poor defending, that second one probably so. Just what he says, I'm not so sure.

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You can't take anything away from the Italians, they were superb tonight. Pirlo is a Godly player, world-class in every sense.

Reminded me so much of Tugay. Superb touch, no one coudf get close to him and he always so much time on the ball.

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Do you remember Hart missing a save or failing to make one as I cant

Like someone pointed else pointed out Balotelli was clean through a few times and De Rossi should have scored when he skewed it wide. Italy took their chances tonight that is the difference. You can't compare how teams did against each other. After all we beat Arsenal and Utd last season.

Looking forward to the final as well. Will be interesting to see how Italy line up. They have proved already that they can cause Spain problems so I would be surprised to see them line up with everyone behind the ball. But finals are often cagey affairs as both teams are scared of losing so we will have to wait and see.

Pirlo was outstanding but De Rossi played very well again like he has all tournament. Want him to come to England, even if it's for Utd.

Another semi final for Germany......their record in tournaments is outstanding.

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Reminded me so much of Tugay. Superb touch, no one coudf get close to him and he always so much time on the ball.

Agreed, said the exact same to my dad whilst we were watching. Some of his passing was surreal, his vision and range is incredible. No matter how hard the Germans tried to press him he never lost the ball, and when they did give him space he punished them. Very much like Tugay in his later years, awe-inspiring to watch.

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Italy played well in the first half but I think that was a large part due to the tactical setup and team selection Low put out. Podolski has been a complete non entity in the tournament, no way he should have started. I think it was also a mistake to play Kroos, Low completely changed the central midfield and it just didn't work at all. Gomez up front was probably a mistake as well, Klose has better movement and would have linked up the play better which was clear in the second half.

Germany will still be a force (perhaps more so) in 2 years time.

Where's the guy that was telling me Gomez is awesome ?

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Gomez is just a goalscorer, Klose makes the whole team play better. I don't know who I would start, probably Klose. His international record is magnificent....64 goals in 121 games. I doubt there is much better in world football. David Villa's is 51 in 82, that is ridiculous.

I see Gomez as a Raul type player in which they can be anonymous for most of the game but then score 2. His 2 goals against Holland were superbly taken. The only 2 occasions that Schweinsteiger passed him the ball in that half and they were both assists.

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Germany had a right disaster last night, knew it was over when they made the subs, like for like when they needed to change the system.. would of prefered to see Mueller or Schurrle and Bender (highly regarded defensive midfielder so why have Kroos on Pirlo) on, felt sorry for them but Italy played some sublime football and Pirlo, Chiellini, De Rossi, Buffon and Mario make for one hell of a backbone to any team.

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Another crackpot idea.... http://www.bbc.co.uk...otball/18657633

Found this bit really galling: "In these days of cheap air travel anything is possible."

So shockingly out of touch - this year's Euros a prime example of how air ticket prices become astoundingly inflated once an announcement of a major event is made. Not to mention accommodation...

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- Spain are unbeaten in 11 European Championship matches, a new record........they've kept 9 consecutive clean sheets in knockout games in major tournaments

- Casillas has had one shot on target to deal with in the 2 knockout games in this tournament.....a free kick from Cabaye......he has had 12 shots on target to deal with this tournament.....6 of which came against Italy in their first game, with Di Natale the only player to score against him

- They are unbeaten in their last 19 competitive games

- A win would equal Germany's record of 3 Euro titles

- Excluding shootouts, Italy have won 2 of their last 8 games

- They have been involved in 8 goalless draws in European Championships, more than any other side

- This tournament, they have attempted more shots than anyone else

- They are unbeaten under Cesare Prandelli.....winning 10 and drawing 5

- Balotelli became the first ever Italian to score 3 goals in a single Euros tournament

- Excluding shootouts, Italy have lost 2 of their last 19 games in the Euros......a 3-0 loss to Holland in the group stages of Euro 2008 and a golden goal loss to a David Trezeguet goal in extra time of the Euro 2000 final against France

- They have not been behind in a game once this tournament, the only side to do so

- This is their 9th final at a major tournament

- Excluding their shootout win in Euro 2008, Spain haven't beaten Italy in a competitive game since the 1920 Olympics......their overall competitive record is Won 1, Drew 5, Lost 5

- Overall, they have played each other 31 times.....Italy have Won 10, Drew 12 and Lost 8

- Spain have averaged 66.8% possession this tournament compared to Italy's 53.2%

- Italy have had 12 more shots than Spain this tournament but have had 6 less on target

- The last 4 Euros finals have been settled by a one goal margin, with the last two being 1-0

- The final has never been decided by a penalty shootout in 13 previous tournaments

- Pirlo has won the man of the match award 3 times in this tournament but Xavi has made 465 passes with a pass completion rate of 85% as opposed to Pirlo's 354 passes at a rate of 77%.........Xabi Alonso, Busquets, Iniesta and Sergio Ramos have also completed more passes than Pirlo

- Balotelli is tied with 4 other players on 3 goals (Dzagoev, Gomez, Mandzukic and Ronaldo) with Xabi Alonso, Torres and Fabregas on 2 goals.......Balotelli has also had more shots on target (10) than any other player

- David Silva is top of the assist charts with 3, with Pirlo behind on 2

- Buffon has equalled Italian Dino Zoff's record of 24 games at tournaments.....but is still 4 behind the overall record holder among goalkeepers....Casillas on 28.

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Yeah they are fantastic to watch when they play this way, still they can be dull to watch at other times I stand by that.

Two superb goals tonight.

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