[Archived] outsider so can someone please explain?

[Guest Rovers4Good]

He didn't actually apologize for it, he apologized for the way he broadcast it. His singling out of Morton Gamst Pedersen hasn't gone down well with the squad and I believe he issued the apology to keep the peace. I think if he'd have stuck to speaking about Kean we wouldn't have had any such apology or player unrest.

And he's not the chairman.

He also mentioned Dunn in this as well

He said he could tell by the team sheet if we were going to lose and he mentioned if it had Dunn and Pederson in the middle LOL

It's just another situation where someone else is making our club a laughing stock

[braddock]

Where's your avatar of Mrs D Bradders?

Upon my return the other day it would appear that the board has changed and my avatar was no longer in place. I'll find a new one when I get the time, I'm sure.

Maybe he wanted to meet interesting and grounded individuals such as yourself braddock

I've just been reading through a couple of threads and the time is fast approaching, in my opinion, for you to be banned for offering nothing more than antagonistic tittle tattle to every thread you post on. I’m all for alternative views, but speed typing one-liners to wind board members up isn’t the way forward.

Just my opinion.

Banning all dissenters from your own personal stance would make the world a wonderful place...

I've put her on ignore, it makes life so much easier. If only everyone else would do the same, the stupid cow would be denied the oxygen of attention

You didn't pay much attention to me when I wasn't on ignore given the fact you didn't pick up on my gender. Simply by stating that people shouldn't presume I'm male doesn't make me a male.

[den]

Whilst I agree with you that he is stirring people up for the sake of it, we can't have someone removed because of that.

Yes we can. Trolling isn't allowed.

That's for others to judge.

[braddock]

Yes we can. Trolling isn't allowed.

That's for others to judge.

I'm putting forward my opinion. Just like you put forward yours. I'm the one being called a cow, for some reason or other.

[Baggie192]

He also mentioned Dunn in this as well

He said he could tell by the team sheet if we were going to lose and he mentioned if it had Dunn and Pederson in the middle LOL

It's just another situation where someone else is making our club a laughing stock

I've read the other thread and the paper comment. I'm not laughing. I feel sorry for the regular people who work at the club, its their livelyhoods. I feel sorry for you fans. I live in Longbridge. Which is historically is the catchment area for Birmingham City FC. My best friend is a bluenose, and, had a ST over 35 years. I asked him at the end of last season 'Are you going to renew?' his answer 'nah, It's not MY club anymore' but perhaps its reached that point?

[Blackburn Ravers]

11 thousand season ticket holders down in the last 2 seasons Baggie,

[Anti-Dingle-Brigade]

To summarise:

Our owners are either evil masterminds intent on destroying the club for reasons unknown or they are just idiots.

Our manager is a little turd who can't manage, motivate, keep his mouth shut or stop himself having 'a wee tipple' before he drives home. Favourite pastimes include lying, exaggeration, misdirection and lip-licking.

Our transfers are being organised by two people; some Indian Krusty the Klown impersonator and Jerome Anderson, a turd of a man and an agent of a large number of players we sign/target... All utterly dire.

Our defence consists of Scott 'sorry' Dann, Myles 'DadlookdadlookatmeI'mplayinginthePremierLeague' Anderson and Bradley 'Brown-nose' Orr plus a few decent players, who oddly enough, aren't Kean fans (Olsson, Givet).

Our head of security has been sacked for allowing a chicken to run onto the pitch and Kean's private bodyguard (whom he has never needed; more exaggeration) has been given a significant role in ground safety. Rumours are that fans shouting 'Kean out' are to be ejected... I've always said that games that aren't behind closed door games are overrated anyway.

So basically we are an in-the-works Carry On movie script constantly being updated with more and more outlandish scenes and characters.

[Gav]

Banning all dissenters from your own personal stance would make the world a wonderful place...

Point mised by a country mile, its a bit of advice, nothing more nothing less.

[braddock]

Point mised by a country mile, its a bit of advice, nothing more nothing less.

I feel that you are missing the point with the fact that I'm not making posts to wind people up, simply to offer a different opinion which I happen to hold. The only time I specifically did anything to wind people up was my avatar, which was hardly crime of the century, and the censorship of an avatar that breaks no rules would be even crazier than holding different opinions and airing them. Had I been posting pictures as posts showing love for Venky's, off topic to what was being discussed then that would have been trolling. I do occaisionally end up off course when others change the subject and I'm forced to back up my opinions. That isn't trolling, that's just being led off topic.

So if you're advice is to ban somebody for that then my original point stands and it is yourself who has missed the point of the entirety of my posts. Ridicule me all you wish, but you only look foolish alongside me (in the opinion of many on here) in trying to silence somebody who is breaking no rules.

This is an example of a post which has gone off topic, and for this I apologise, but I'm merely responding.

[onlyonejackwalker]

The likes of Braddock post often, but actually say very little, with pedantry far more important than any reasoned or rational debate.

They should edcuate the massess by documenting all the improvements made since VenKean took over. And all the things the Venky's have done excellently since purchasing the club.

I am sure they have a long list immediately available. I will wait to view with interest and then refine my personal opinions if required, subject to any of it making sense....

[AllRoverAsia]

I wish I could work out the Ignore feature. Bugger advancing years.

[onlyonejackwalker]

I wish I could work out the Ignore feature. Bugger advancing years.

ARA...I have been following your posts since SS was recruited and watching with interest what happens. You have been bang on the money to date.

[braddock]

The likes of Braddock post often, but actually say very little, with pedantry far more important than any reasoned or rational debate.

They should edcuate the massess by documenting all the improvements made since VenKean took over. And all the things the Venky's have done excellently since purchasing the club.

I am sure they have a long list immediately available. I will wait to view with interest and then refine my personal opinions if required, subject to any of it making sense....

It's all damage limitation with these guys in charge, and the fans have simply made things worse. They aren't the worst factor, but they are the ones who you'd expect to care about the club most. Not those who are in it for the money, or are fighting for their jobs. If I was in a Venky's/Kean forum I'm sure I'd be pointing out their fallacies a lot more, but since this is a forum for the supporters, and there's plenty of back slapping going on about how wonderful the fans have been, I see nothing wrong in pointing out the problems they themselves have caused.

I'm sorry if you don't understand this viewpoint.

[AllRoverAsia]

ARA...I have been following your posts since SS was recruited and watching with interest what happens. You have been bang on the money to date.

It's impossible for Shebby to shut up. He will keep running his mouth until 'relieved' of whatever his job is. He's achieved a lot of his job description already - having kept Kean away from the centrestage where Coco can only damage himself whilst in the shadows he can resurrect. The game plan at Ewood is to get promotion and elevate Kean to super-hero status - Man U will need a new Scottish manager quite soon.

[braddock]

I'll take promotion if that's the price to pay.

[AllRoverAsia]

I'll take promotion if that's the price to pay.

Bur accept our relegation as part of the deal? That's the part I find hard to swallow.

[braddock]

Bur accept our relegation as part of the deal? That's the part I find hard to swallow.

I'm talking about from the position we are in now.

[den]

I'm putting forward my opinion. Just like you put forward yours. I'm the one being called a cow, for some reason or other.

I'm not making any judgement on you Braddock. Not my place.

[Hasta]

I'm talking about from the position we are in now.

Wipe the slate clean. Yeah good idea. I've heard that before somewhere.

[braddock]

Wipe the slate clean. Yeah good idea. I've heard that before somewhere.

OK, whenever I give my opinion on what I hope will happen this season I shall put a proviso at the top of every post that this opinion is (as well as being my own, as you seem intent on me specifying) in line with the basis that I also wish we had not got relegated this season.

Have you heard yourself?

[AllRoverAsia]

OK, whenever I give my opinion on what I hope will happen this season I shall put a proviso at the top of every post that this opinion is (as well as being my own, as you seem intent on me specifying) in line with the basis that I also wish we had not got relegated this season.

Have you heard yourself?

OK I think that we will get promoted and agree that is what we all surely want.

My point is that there was no need to get relegated and most surely no need to make our beloved Rovers the laughingstock of football.

It gets a bit confusing with so many threads saying the same thing - where's Shebby when he's needed.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

It's all damage limitation with these guys in charge, and the fans have simply made things worse. They aren't the worst factor, but they are the ones who you'd expect to care about the club most. Not those who are in it for the money, or are fighting for their jobs. If I was in a Venky's/Kean forum I'm sure I'd be pointing out their fallacies a lot more, but since this is a forum for the supporters, and there's plenty of back slapping going on about how wonderful the fans have been, I see nothing wrong in pointing out the problems they themselves have caused.

I'm sorry if you don't understand this viewpoint.

What have the fans done wrong in your eyes braddock?

[onlyonejackwalker]

It's all damage limitation with these guys in charge, and the fans have simply made things worse. They aren't the worst factor, but they are the ones who you'd expect to care about the club most. Not those who are in it for the money, or are fighting for their jobs. If I was in a Venky's/Kean forum I'm sure I'd be pointing out their fallacies a lot more, but since this is a forum for the supporters, and there's plenty of back slapping going on about how wonderful the fans have been, I see nothing wrong in pointing out the problems they themselves have caused.

I'm sorry if you don't understand this viewpoint.

I think I understand better than you think.

You don't have a long list of positive achievements that can be attributed to the new owners do you? You don't even have a short list. In fact you cannot think of one thing they have done successfully, professionally, or with any expertise at all. Hardly suprising.

Yet you wish to criticise genuine, long-standing fans, brought to their knees by the sheer ineptitude of the owners and their patsy's - who saw most of this coming months ago? For me, I am amazed our fans have been so tolerant of the ineptitude displayed. I would have celebrated Kean's removal after Wigan away in his first season!

In any business, devaluing the product so spectacularly and so rapidly would cause major concern and unrest from paying customers. It would also cause many to stop buying. If the customers cared enough they may comment, react negatively, request explanations and enquire about future strategy. Its clearly not rocket science and I am suprised why you find this so hard to understand.

It is very clear the problems began with the new owners, not the fans. Expecting people to just sit there and have their pockets picked while smiling politely is a little foolish to say the least.

[braddock]

You clearly don't understand. I don't back Venky's and I can see that the fans contributed to relegation but were not the main factor behind it. If you actually read what I post you would understand this.

[Robin]

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