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Yep, that's right Tom. I may have said it elsewhere, but look at the way Fabio jogged off down the tunnel after his stupid red card. It was as if he had no sense of anger for doing it, no feeling that he let the club down. Ferguson would have made him fear for his career after that, and worked on him so he would be trying twice as hard to make amends. There seems to be little of that drive or hunger there now.

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onlyonejackwalker

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  On 08/01/2014 at 11:47, Majiball said:

Moyes should have stuck to the plan IE he replaces Fergie and nothing else changes.

But alas not fiddling seemed to big an ask for Moyes.

United weren't broken but Moyes tries to fix them anyway and now they definitely are!

Totally agree and said as much last night. Moyes looks isolated on that bench and his support crew don't cut the mustard.

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  On 08/01/2014 at 11:54, onlyonejackwalker said:

Totally agree and said as much last night. Moyes looks isolated on that bench and his support crew don't cut the mustard.

I believe Fergie wanted to groom Moyes into the role but alas he seems to have rejected being trained by the greatest football manager ever.

I'm loving Moyes looking isolated, now he knows how the Rovers fans he insulted and ridiculed felt like with the whole footballing world against them!

Karma

Hopefully they throw the kitchen sink into transfers and he stills fails to make 4th with Uniteds debt then rising like Rovers and their downfall commences.

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Lots of players out of contract in the summer for MU (Rooney, Fabio, Ferdinand, Giggs, Vidic, Evra), most of which will leave, they will have to spend a lot just to stand still, let alone challenge for the league.

I think it is long overdue a bad period for Man United fans to endure, let's see how long the glory fans stay around for. Moyes deserves the flack for the way he stuck up for Kean at Rovers.

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  On 08/01/2014 at 11:24, jim mk2 said:

United aren't a sacking club and their fans will have to get used to the fact that under Moyes they won't be winning the title again for quite some time.

By God, I hope you're right, but every club has its breaking point, particularly one the size of Utd. Continue in this vein and Moyes won't last much longer.

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According to the radio Rooney has 18 months left to run on his contract OJ but you'd have thought he wouldn't fancy staying if they fail to qualify for the Champions League.

We' ve been saying for years ManUre would likely implode once Ferguson left and hopefully now it's finally happening. There was a bloke from a United fanzine interviewed at length on Sky yesterday saying that their net spend over the last 5 years is the same as the likes of Stoke and Villa so obviously you can't sustain success indefinitely like that without the remarkable Fergie factor.

That said Moyes isn't helping, publicly chasing Fabregas all summer who they knew they were never going to land, then 26m wasted on Fellani who looks like a fish out of water in the United style of play. And his obsession with 40 year old Ryan Giggs is baffling. Almost seems to be the first name down on the team sheet and played 90 minutes last night whereas Ferguson used him relatively sparingly and usually from the sub's bench.

It's almost like he decided when he started to make Giggs a close ally so that if he had "Giggsy" onside, no-one would dare question him. He's taken it too far and to ridiculous extremes though.

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They were OK for as long as they made the champs league places.

doesn't look likely right now, does it.

They should've appointed Mourinho manager, and not given Fergie any position apart from maybe overseas ambassador.

speeeeeeedie

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  On 08/01/2014 at 14:04, Plastics said:

Ex Villa player reveals he is gay: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25628806

Glad to see he's comfortable in coming out. Hopefully times are changing.

Good for him.

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Campaign group Stonewall welcomed the announcement. Director of campaigns Sam Dick told BBC Sport: "It's fantastic that he has been brave enough to openly discuss his sexual orientation.

"Every sports star who is willing to speak out makes it just that little bit easier for gay players and fans, and we hope, a new generation of footballers will feel confident enough to be themselves."

What a name for a gay rights group spokesman,

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  On 08/01/2014 at 11:24, jim mk2 said:

Let's face it with Ferguson's record and longevity anyone following in his footsteps was on a loser. A bit like England's ashes triumph last summer the championship triumph last season was a last hurrah for that team and it needs rebuilding. United aren't a sacking club and their fans will have to get used to the fact that under Moyes they won't be winning the title again for quite some time.

Well, they HAVE had the best manager in world football (possibly ever) for over 20years.

speeeeeeedie

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Man U declining was always going to happen, and it is great to see. No team with a 40 year old (however good they once were), dodgy full backs, and a terribly weak centre midfiled will challenge for honours. As has been said it will cost countless millions just to patch up the holes. I can't see them finishing in the Champs league spots.

How many clubs keep it going after a legend has left? Barcelona? They are still doing well since Guardiola quit. Bayern Munich too, now with him. But this is over a much shorter period of time.

Manu U after Busby were relegated. Forest were done after Clough. Leeds after Revie struggled as did us after Dalglish.

Liverpool after Shankly did keep it up though, but they promoted from within.

Mind you managers these days last about as long as it takes to order a Chinese.

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  On 08/01/2014 at 14:33, RevidgeBlue said:

According to the radio Rooney has 18 months left to run on his contract OJ but you'd have thought he wouldn't fancy staying if they fail to qualify for the Champions League.

We' ve been saying for years ManUre would likely implode once Ferguson left and hopefully now it's finally happening. There was a bloke from a United fanzine interviewed at length on Sky yesterday saying that their net spend over the last 5 years is the same as the likes of Stoke and Villa so obviously you can't sustain success indefinitely like that without the remarkable Fergie factor.

That said Moyes isn't helping, publicly chasing Fabregas all summer who they knew they were never going to land, then 26m wasted on Fellani who looks like a fish out of water in the United style of play. And his obsession with 40 year old Ryan Giggs is baffling. Almost seems to be the first name down on the team sheet and played 90 minutes last night whereas Ferguson used him relatively sparingly and usually from the sub's bench.

It's almost like he decided when he started to make Giggs a close ally so that if he had "Giggsy" onside, no-one would dare question him. He's taken it too far and to ridiculous extremes though.

Ahh well his best mate Coco may back him up, now that would be amusing.

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  On 07/01/2014 at 23:59, M-K said:

Come on, man. Have some respect. Remember Hillsborough.

Quite right. Liverpool fans are all angels and deeply misunderstood aren't they? And nowhere more so than in Turin.
thenodrog World Cup

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  On 08/01/2014 at 14:24, Amarillo said:

By God, I hope you're right, but every club has its breaking point, particularly one the size of Utd. Continue in this vein and Moyes won't last much longer.

But remember Ferguson was complete crap for a number of years and his job was hanging by a thread when Robins and Hughes came to his rescue.... and the rest is history.

  On 08/01/2014 at 14:53, Bryan said:

They were OK for as long as they made the champs league places.

doesn't look likely right now, does it.

They should've appointed Mourinho manager, and not given Fergie any position apart from maybe overseas ambassador.

Dunno about that. imo Jose would have bombed big time. MU'squad is singularly ill fitted to Mourhino's favoured tactics.
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I think Mourinho would have done well because he would have taken one look at their defence and midfield and told the Glazers to give him a load of money to spend.

Moyes is average and so is their squad. Van Persie, Rooney, Carrick, Fletcher, De Gea, Jones and Januzaj are the only ones who would get near Chelsea or City's squads. Vidic, Ferdinand and Evra are pretty much past it and the likes of Anderson, Young, Cleverley, Welbeck etc just aren't good enough.

I think they'll struggle to finish in the top four. Which would be hilarious.

Great goal, 1-0 City. Yaya Toure long ball from his own half, volleyed first time from Negredo.

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  On 08/01/2014 at 16:34, EgyptianPete said:

Ahh well his best mate Coco may back him up, now that would be amusing.

Sounds like he's already advising him (from the link CN174 posted)

"They realise we are having a difficult time right now and they are not used to this, but good supporters stick with their team, they stick with their manager."

Just needed a "Ive spoken to the owners and they back me 199%"

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  On 08/01/2014 at 14:04, Plastics said:

Ex Villa player reveals he is gay: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/25628806

Glad to see he's comfortable in coming out. Hopefully times are changing.

  On 08/01/2014 at 15:07, speeeeeeedie said:

Good for him.

From the article;

What a name for a gay rights group spokesman,

Not quite as appropriate as Nick Brown the homosexual Labour MP.

btw Plastics I'd think more of them if they referred to themselves by the correct term 'homosexual'.

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West Ham seem on a massive downward spiral, players not playing for the manager perhaps - clearly their injury list is horrific but something will have up change and you've got to think time may be up for Big Sam.

Feel a bit sorry for him (as much as I despise West Ham), myself and the majority of Rovers fans will always be grateful for the fantastic job he did here.

Gally Premier League

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  On 08/01/2014 at 20:18, RevidgeBlue said:

West Ham 2 down already against Citeh after 26 mins.

Resting players on Sunday did the trick then ..... ..

3-0 and not even half time. Good thing from our point of view is that it's been more West Ham being awful than City being unplayable.

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Ray Houghton on Talksport is having a field day detailing the deficiencies in the WHU side.

X not picking up Y, A not picking up B etc. Centre halves not getting tight to their men.

Sam apparently slumped on the bench and hasn't said a word.

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