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They need to get a proven winner in ASAP... Kean would be ideal in my opinion... Steve Kean that is lol

Both Keans are Kean managers.

Anelka banned for five matches and fined £80,000 for "quenelle" gesture.

Do the Jews run the FA as well as Hollywood these days? :P

Dunno but imagine an English player making an anti muslim / black gesture and tell me how his 'FA hearing' would end.
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Both Keans are Kean managers.

Dunno but imagine an English player making an anti muslim / black gesture and tell me how his 'FA hearing' would end.

Didn't John Terry do just that? He pleaded his case and was given a lenient punishment, same as Anelka.

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Unless United really do sink down the league Moyes won't be sacked. There is a recognition at OT that the squad Ferguson left needs rebuilding and serious money needs to be spent. Moyes will be given at least 3 years to shape his own side - and only if they are still serious underperforming will the owners consider a change of direction. United historically have not been a sacking club and to replace him now would out of character form them. Despite everyone's glee at the plight of Moyes, he's in the job for the foreseeable future.

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Utd aren't a sacking club because they just had the best manager of a generation for a quarter of a century. If he does a bad enough job, he'll go. They sacked managers before Ferguson and they will definitely do it again.

Ferguson had just made Aberdeen the best team in Scotland and won a European trophy with them. Moyes has won nothing in his whole career. Not getting top four then not being able to attract decent enough players will be his downfall.

To be fair, I hope he does stay in the job for the foreseeable future. He's so painfully out of his depth it's hilarious to watch.

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I think Ferguson swung it for Moyes as they are probably big mates. It was a bit of a hospital pass in terms of the playing squad, but Moyes clearly doesn't have the ability to rectify that. Ferguson would have made the top 4 with what they have now, and would have done more in the summer window than over spend on Fellaini. What I'm trying to say is that the squad is weakening over time, but Ferguson would have got every last bit of performance out of the squad. Moyes can't.

Moyes also sacked the entire coaching staff that had experience of success over the years, and replaced them with either his Everton coaches who have only managed to reach the top 5 a couple of times, and a few players/ex-players who have no experience in coaching.

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Moyes also sacked the entire coaching staff that had experience of success over the years, and replaced them with either his Everton coaches who have only managed to reach the top 5 a couple of times, and a few players/ex-players who have no experience in coaching.

This is without question one of the biggest mistakes Moyes made when he took over. Not sure whether it was done through arrogance or stupidity.

Steve Round, Jimmy Lumsden and Phil neville :lol: the dream team. Lumsden looks like he should be playing bingo somewhere.

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I think Ferguson swung it for Moyes as they are probably big mates.

Moyes said that he was interrupted while shopping and invited over to Castle Ferguson, where Sir Alex told him he was The One.

Meanwhile, back at Old Trafford, the Man Utd board was drawing up a list of names and sounding out various high-profile managers. "Mourinho is very keen, perhaps we could..."

Then Ferguson walks in, dragging Moyes behind him. "Here's your man. No need to worry about paperwork, I've already given him a six-year contract."

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Moyes also sacked the entire coaching staff that had experience of success over the years, and replaced them with either his Everton coaches who have only managed to reach the top 5 a couple of times, and a few players/ex-players who have no experience in coaching.

Ferguson made some comment early in the season doubting Moyes's decision to sack the old staff. Mick Phelan wasn't happy, neither was the now ex-Fulham manager. I agree that it was a big mistake, but Moyes wanted to be his own man.

A blind man on a galloping horse could see that the squad was in trouble with a bad mix of aging stars and not good enough youngsters. Although the current crop aren't meeting expectations Fergie has made some very good signings over the years; van Nistelrooy, Ferdinand, Vidic, Stam, van der Sar, Schmeichel, Roy Keane, Ronaldo, Yorke to name some. Most of those were already proven entities though. He is no Wenger when it comes to unearthing raw talent. Who was the last first team player to come through the ranks? Welbeck? I don't count Rafael or Cleverley as they were brought in from elsewhere, albeit at a young age.

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It does seem that way M-K. Perhaps if Gill was in charge, Jose would have got it, and that Mr. Woodward was not strong enough to tell Alex that he did not share his opinion.

And as for the coaches, he should have replaced them gradually, or at least worked with them for a while in order to gain some knowledge about the squad from the point of view of a coach. Giggs is still playing, and Phil Neville had been at Everton for some time. By chopping very good coaches like Phelan and Muelensteen, it was a leap into the unknown.

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He is no Wenger when it comes to unearthing raw talent. Who was the last first team player to come through the ranks? Welbeck? I don't count Rafael or Cleverley as they were brought in from elsewhere, albeit at a young age.

To be fair, Wenger's record isn't particularly amazing - like most managers of rich clubs he's spent a lot of money on a lot of crap.

He signs players nobody's ever heard of, and you can see why no other big clubs wanted them when his team finishes fourth and half of the signings from three years ago get shipped out at reduced fees, to be replaced by another batch of middle-ranking nobodies from the French league that may or may not contain the next Thierry Henry.

His best 'raw talent' signings were Anelka and Fabregas, both of whom were developed at other clubs and poached from their youth teams under dubious circumstances. That's not a great return for two decades, or however long he's been doing it.

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The squad was good enough to win the league less than 12 months ago. Sure there is a lot of @#/? in there but Moyes has now spent 64 million and not actually improved it! (Mata is a good player but in a specific position and he's not being played there).

Looking from the outside (without knowing the full story) Moyes has also convinced Evra and Vidic to leave meaning a huge chunk of money needs to be spent replacing 2 players who are good enough for at least another 2 years...

The replacing of a winning coaching team with a couple of decent coaches and a couple of ex/current players is a joke and the team shows absolutely zero confidence in what they are being told to do.

If his contract is 7 million per year x 5 then it is well worth sacking him at the end of this season (of course imo)

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None of you are fit to discuss the current state of Man. Utd until you have your OT season tickets.

- Section 4 of Al's Posting Rights Act 2014.

Sarcasm does not qualify you to be an expert on what you have not witnessed.
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:) it's a fair point.

Do we all need to watch Man. Utd (or any other team, for that matter) week in, week out to see Moyes is up sh** creek without a paddle? Or perhaps we can formulate an opinion based on results, team selection and transfer history?

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Do we all need to watch Man. Utd (or any other team, for that matter) week in, week out to see Moyes is up sh** creek without a paddle? Or perhaps we can formulate an opinion based on results, team selection and transfer history?

We can't see what he is trying to do there

That is what you say if you are a deluded Scott isn't it, applies to Scottish politicians as well

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Vincent Tan speaks out. And says he is now involved in transfers!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26366898

Saw an interview with him on the BBC news saying he had the backing of 90% of the fans, not only that he more or less claimed that the other 5 or 10% were racist.

Obviously, the fans weren't interviewed to give their response. Disgusting, and very poor by the BBC too.

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