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[K-Hod]

SSN reporting west ham booed off by some home fans after they beat Hull!

Can you Adam and Eve it!

Yes I can, their fans suffer with massive delusions of grandeur, and have the classic champagne expectations and beer finances...

[DE.]

SSN reporting west ham booed off by some home fans after they beat Hull!

Can you Adam and Eve it!

FULL-TIME - West Ham 2-1 Hull

The final whistle blows and West Ham have all three points. Their fans wanted a better performance to go with them though and their jeers are meet with a bemused/exasperated/ irritated shoulder shrug and ear-cupping motion by Sam Allardyce.

All is not well at Upton Park.

[Proudtobeblue&white]

Get on the dog & bone to Brunei!

[Guest Norbert]

You can hardly crib Wengers record at Arsenal. He's been fantastic for them and has only suffered recently because of footballs crazy overblown finances which has put City, Chelsea and MU in a position to crash and burn should the owners die / tire of them / suffer finacial disaster themselves. To his and the Directors credit they have resisted the temptation to blow their brains out financially. It's likely Arsenal will still be at the top when the others are doing a Leeds.

I largely agree with the point about not doing a Leeds, but his bone headed policy of not signing any players for positions that they desperately need and spunking all his money on attacking midfielders with no pace over the last 5 or so years has shown he is bereft of ideas. Football is as much about winning as it is about how you win. Having some African kid he picked up from a branch of Cottage Chicken and/or Niklas Bendtner on the bench if the over priced cart horse Giroud gets injured will get you nowhere. Wenger is content with sitting back and having no ambition, no desire to win.

Anyway, the reason for this post was to say how childish West Ham fans are. They boo after a win, albeit a poor performance. They ring radio 5 and bitch about Sam. Perhaps those guys should have Steve Kean and then Appleton. Tossers.

[DE.]

West Ham manager Sam Allardyce: "We were absolutely magnificent.

"It's been a tight few games and swings and roundabouts have happened. I suppose we had a bit of fortune as the referee could have given a handball on Mohamed Diame for the penalty we got, but if he hasn't seen that, it's definitely a sending off for Allan McGregor.

"Then we got a little nervous because our fans decided they weren't going to get behind us which really surprised me. We were winning at half-time and one or two weren't happy."

"I've never been a place where I won and got booed.

"I started at 16, got into the first team at 18 and I'm 59 now and I have never been in place where we have won and got booed.

"At half-time players were talking more about fans booing them than the game. Fans affect players. We don't need them on the players' backs when we are coming off three defeats. They have to stay and help them win.

"They are frustrated. I get frustrated. I want the players to play better and take advantage more of the 10 men, but you don't at this level.

"People are organised, wait for an opportunity to suck you in and expose you, even with 10 men. It's not an easy task and we should all be very grateful."

Can't see things ending well here! He's spot on tbf, the fans should be ashamed of themselves. Booing your team off after winning!

[Tom]

Seems Sam forgot the wolves game

Most under appreciated manager by his own fans wherever he goes it seems

[roverandout]

bunch of muppets

[Stuart]

I'd love Arsenal to end up 5th or lower too. I'm sick of all the tools on radio 5 excusing Wenger's continual failure to build a proper team. People like John Hartson are lauding him for 'building the Emirates', and not bankrupting the club, and saying that being in the top 4 most seasons is a fantastic achievement. So actually going out and signing 20 midfielders despite the fact the team needs defenders, strikers and more pace is a mark of genius then?

I think the approach Wenger takes sums up the 21st century PL. If he finishes 4th, it will be viewed as a great success, and massive achievement - especially in contrast to Man U. Maybe they'll get a contrite RVP back.

Something drastically needs to change in the top tier of English football. There is no glory anymore aside from two, maybe 3 "foreign" teams in the hunt for the "EPL Title".

Even the FA cup is a mere bauble to be claimed by the club whose reserve side gets to the semis - before they take it semi-seriously (excuse the awful, unintended pun).

The league cup may as well be a reserve competition for the PL sides.

The whole thing needs a massive overhaul and the only way I see it becoming even remotely interesting again is if the 20-odd (highest ranked) champions league teams across Europe do what the English clubs did in the early 90s and form a breakaway league. They can take Scudamore with them for all I care. Each season the lowest ranked English side goes into a play-off against the English top tier champions. The purists won't like it because a mid-table European Super-Duper League side could be relegated but so what.

The only people who wouldn't want that are the fans of the top 4 but 90% of them are plastic anyway. They would just have to make the most of their home games. Although the matches would be at the weekend anyway so there could be a new tourist market formed.

Something has to change.

Where was I? Oh, yes, Wenger.

Arse.

[West Yorks Rover]

Can't see things ending well here! He's spot on tbf, the fans should be ashamed of themselves. Booing your team off after winning!

Wouldn't it be hilarious if he walked tonight (unlikely I know) and they brought some ' fancy dan' in, and they were relegated,

and stayed down for years.

New stadium and all !

[roverandout]

seems like our situation without the 'fancy dan'.

[West Yorks Rover]

seems like our situation without the 'fancy dan'.

Well Stevie thought he was quite ' the dandy ' you know !

If I was a WH fan I'd be thinking of the future and moving into a new, big stadium and just be damned pleased to have a manager

who will all but guarantee that we are a PL club when that happens.

Sam may decide to retire shortly after that anyhow.

[Husky]

I'd love Arsenal to end up 5th or lower too. I'm sick of all the tools on radio 5 excusing Wenger's continual failure to build a proper team. People like John Hartson are lauding him for 'building the Emirates', and not bankrupting the club, and saying that being in the top 4 most seasons is a fantastic achievement. So actually going out and signing 20 midfielders despite the fact the team needs defenders, strikers and more pace is a mark of genius then?

I guess The Champions League has made mediocrity acceptable. "Continually finishing 4th" would have been considered a disgrace for a top club not all that long ago.

[thenodrog]

SSN reporting west ham booed off by some home fans after they beat Hull!

Can you Adam and Eve it!

Never mind believe it.... Thousands around blackburn can bloody well remember it! Immature gobby know nowts with ovine behavioural traits. Let's hope the porn twins sell whu to some 3rd world chancers too.

[scotchrover]

SSN reporting west ham booed off by some home fans after they beat Hull!

Can you Adam and Eve it!

As Chris Kamara would say 'Unbelievable Jeff!'

Some of their fans have the whole mentality of 'The West Ham Way' though don't they. I think many of their lot would rather see them pass their way into the Championship, than watch Allardyce's brand though.

[Audax]

I did not see this West Ham/Hull match. The Hull goalkeeper injured his kidney in the incident where he was red carded and stays in the hospital tonight.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26761808

http://int.soccerway.com/news/2014/March/27/mcgregor-suffers-serious-kidney-damage/n272275/

[The Rover of Finland]

I did not see this West Ham/Hull match. The Hull goalkeeper injured his kidney in the incident where he was red carded and stays in the hospital tonight.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/26761808

http://int.soccerway.com/news/2014/March/27/mcgregor-suffers-serious-kidney-damage/n272275/

That's very unlucky Wednesday evening for Hull. The penalty was never suppose to be given as Diame took the ball with hand. Now they may lose a very good keeper for the rest of the season. The second goal was a funny own goal by Chester. They should have won the match and basicly get their PL status secured. Now they may have to fight real hard without their best player. Sunderland btw played well. Expect them beat West Ham on weekend.

[Ewood Spark]

Some quotes from Allerdyce :-

"I've never been in a place where I've won and got booed," said Allardyce, 59. "Fans affect players.

"We don't need them on players' backs when we are coming off three defeats. They have to stay and help them win."

He added: "At half-time, the players were talking more about fans booing them than the game. I had to make sure they kept focused on the field.

He should have a word with some of the trembling community on here ... does he not know that fans booing has absolutely no effect on the teams performance?

[den]

On a day trip on holiday recently, there were a couple of Wham fans on the mini bus. They'd been bigging their club up in full voice, when I commented they had our old manager. Straight away they said we can have him back because wham always played pure football. They then proceeded to tell everyone how wham won the World Cup. I don't know what stopped me saying every time I's seen them over the last 50 years, they'd been crap. What a couple of t******.

[M-K]

Most under appreciated manager by his own fans wherever he goes it seems

Shows that football is supposed to be entertaining, first and foremost. People might accept a bit of agricultural football and ultra defensive setups if it wins them something (1-0 to the Arsenal) but Big Sam never even threatens to win anything, and never will. He'll weaken his team for games he thinks aren't important - that's not what the fans pay to see.

[Stuart]

Some quotes from Allerdyce :-

"I've never been in a place where I've won and got booed," said Allardyce, 59. "Fans affect players.

"We don't need them on players' backs when we are coming off three defeats. They have to stay and help them win."

He added: "At half-time, the players were talking more about fans booing them than the game. I had to make sure they kept focused on the field.

He should have a word with some of the trembling community on here ... does he not know that fans booing has absolutely no effect on the teams performance?

Thanks for clearing that up one and for all.

Patently Allardyce didn't hear any booing against Wolves.

Gordon must be wrong.

[ABBEY]

Some quotes from Allerdyce :-

"I've never been in a place where I've won and got booed," said Allardyce, 59. "Fans affect players.

"We don't need them on players' backs when we are coming off three defeats. They have to stay and help them win."

He added: "At half-time, the players were talking more about fans booing them than the game. I had to make sure they kept focused on the field.

He should have a word with some of the trembling community on here ... does he not know that fans booing has absolutely no effect on the teams performance?

THE TREMBLERS WERE PROVED RIGHT OVER THE VENKYS THOUGH.....AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO SLATE FANS OVER SOMETHING MAKE SURE YOU SPELL "Allerdyce" RIGHT.

IT MUST BE GREAT BEING SUPER FANS AND BEING THE FATHER OF CHADDY.

[davulsukur]

WestHam situation is a strange one. The owners set their stall out earlier in the season when they could have binned him off during an awful run of form but they didn't. Later they said sacking him was never even discussed.

The fans have never liked his appointment but he got them promoted and they are now 9 points clear of the drop.

Will fan power win this one? Not too sure, the owners clearly saw that Allardyce would keep them in the PL and they need the cash. Unless he walks, i can't see him leaving for a while but then would fans stay away? They will need to fill that new stadium i would think.

[Guest Norbert]

No doubt if he was sacked, he'll buy 'Upton Mansion' somewhere. All this bollards about playing the 'West Ham way' really grates. They're like the Matalan Spurs with all that nonsense since they've done eff all since Trevor Brooking scored a few goals by making the opposition fall asleep by talking to them during a game. I hope their next manager plays really flowing, attacking football and gets them relegated through defensive suicide.

[DE.]

Shows that football is supposed to be entertaining, first and foremost. People might accept a bit of agricultural football and ultra defensive setups if it wins them something (1-0 to the Arsenal) but Big Sam never even threatens to win anything, and never will. He'll weaken his team for games he thinks aren't important - that's not what the fans pay to see.

As a fan you pay to watch two teams play within the agreed rules of the sport. There's no guarantee of entertainment. A sporting contest is about winning first and foremost, entertainment shouldn't ever be part of a game plan. If you want a "sport" that puts entertainment first you can watch Wrestlemania on April 6th

Considering they have a 54k seater stadium to pay for West Ham must stay in the Premier League. Business wise they cannot take the risk of binning a manager who is extremely likely to keep them in the top tier, which is why I don't think Gold & Sullivan will sack him. It's a very tricky situation though, as I don't know where you go when your fans are booing victories.

I'm curious as to why the fans didn't protest more when West Ham spunked £15M on Andy Carroll. Did they think with him leading the line they were going to become 1970's Brazil?

[onlyonejackwalker]

Some quotes from Allerdyce :-

"I've never been in a place where I've won and got booed," said Allardyce, 59. "Fans affect players.

"We don't need them on players' backs when we are coming off three defeats. They have to stay and help them win."

He added: "At half-time, the players were talking more about fans booing them than the game. I had to make sure they kept focused on the field.

He should have a word with some of the trembling community on here ... does he not know that fans booing has absolutely no effect on the teams performance?

This is simply a managerial soundbite dropped with an ulterior motive by an experienced manager. I wouldn't get too excited by it really.

What happens when 70,000 away fans at Man United boo opposition players? Boo - hiss - boo. Didnt seem to stop City and Liverpool battering them recently.

Rovers fans booed against Wolves due to a pass back in our own half when winning 3-0.

West Ham fans were unhappy that after playing against 10 men, the early lead was pulled back and it took an own goal to get ahead again. Bruce left both strikers on and they put WH under pressure apparently late doors. Considering WH were really struggling a couple of months ago, with many on here saying he had lost his players and they were certain to go down, I found it midly amusing watching Sam get the Manager of the Month award for January. This myth of West Ham playing the 'right way' grates on me as well. It is some time since they had a decent team outplaying others with pretty pass and move football when in fact they have been bog average for donkeys.