[Archived] Premier League Happenings

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 11/03/2013 at 17:54, jim mk2 said:

Did a great job last season to take Reading up. He's another baldie - next Rovers manager ?

Was just about to say..........Bad year for bald managers?

Edit: Jason Roberts currently on SSN "Saddened" "Victim of his own success" blah blah blah.

Early bookies favourites, Adkins 4/1, Di Canio 5/1. Di Canio would be a fascinating one as he would have been my choice after Kean was sacked.

[Tom]

Roberts is right though, by going up as they did he made his own job harder

I imagine he'd be happily employed for a few years to come had he kept them around the playoffs but not going up

[DE.]

33 days after winning manager of the month... sacked.

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 11/03/2013 at 18:15, Tom M said:

Roberts is right though, by going up as they did he made his own job harder

I imagine he'd be happily employed for a few years to come had he kept them around the playoffs but not going up

Yes of course, the point I was maybe trying to convey was that Roberts was merely trotting out the usual meaningless platitudes because he couldn't say anything at all really.

The presenter kept trying to manoevure him into saying that the sacking was a bad move and of course he had to say that as a player it wasn't for him to make those sort of decisions etc etc.

  On 11/03/2013 at 18:22, DE. said:

33 days after winning manager of the month... sacked.

I'm guessing Majedski would not have sacked him but the new Russian owners were prepared to be a lot more ruthless in a straw clutching attempt to keep their PL status.

[jim mk2]

  On 11/03/2013 at 18:00, RevidgeBlue said:

Was just about to say..........Bad year for bald managers?

Edit: Jason Roberts currently on SSN "Saddened" "Victim of his own success" blah blah blah.

Early bookies favourites, Adkins 4/1, Di Canio 5/1. Di Canio would be a fascinating one as he would have been my choice after Kean was sacked.

The fruitcake that is Di Canio added to the volatile mix already at Ewood ?? I know you've got some bizarre views but the mind boggles.

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 11/03/2013 at 18:31, jim mk2 said:

The fruitcake that is Di Canio added to the volatile mix already at Ewood ?? I know you've got some bizarre views but the mind boggles.

You've no need to worry jim. He has a successful managerial track record to date. He wouldn't even have come under consideration.

Whether or not he is follically challenged enough to pass the other essential criteria for our managers post - the baldness test- who knows?

Edit: SSN now saying Di Canio is odds on favourite for the Reading gig - seemingly on the strength of him being sighted at the Majedski on saturday.

[jim mk2]

Di Canio has only a short track record and would have been another gamble because of his nature. He was always having rows at Swindon.

The managerial fix was easy when Kean finally went - an experienced man like McCarthy was all that was required.

[Salgado Is A Hero]

  On 09/03/2013 at 17:17, RevidgeBlue said:

The 'Arry love in with the media will be quite nauseating if he pulls off the great escape.

I can't remember, did he keep Portsmouth up one year? But was relegated with Southampton.....which apparently makes him "Harry Houdini".

Oh yea, and how they say he kept Spurs up because they were in the relegation zone after 8 games.

[Audax]

I don't quite get Lawro's League Table. I'd think it must be how the clubs are in order of good to bad at the moment but that doesn't make total sense to me either.

Arsenal at 2nd? QPR at 6th? Wigan at 12th? I don't quite understand.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21624631

[DE.]

  On 11/03/2013 at 19:11, Audax said:

I don't quite get Lawro's League Table. I'd think it must be how the clubs are in order of good to bad at the moment but that doesn't make total sense to me either.

Arsenal at 2nd? QPR at 6th? Wigan at 12th? I don't quite understand.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21624631

FFS, I know Lawro's not exactly a fountain of wisdom at the best of times... but QPR 6th?

[cn174]

Not our PL but didn't have anywhere better to put this:

http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/video-swiss-footballer-attacked-by-pine-marten-1-2830398

[old darwen blue]

  On 11/03/2013 at 19:34, cn174 said:

Not our PL but didn't have anywhere better to put this:

http://www.scotsman.com/news/odd/video-swiss-footballer-attacked-by-pine-marten-1-2830398

Such pace in the opponents half, quick sign it up!

[Audax]

  On 11/03/2013 at 18:42, RevidgeBlue said:

You've no need to worry jim. He has a successful managerial track record to date. He wouldn't even have come under consideration.

Whether or not he is follically challenged enough to pass the other essential criteria for our managers post - the baldness test- who knows?

Edit: SSN now saying Di Canio is odds on favourite for the Reading gig - seemingly on the strength of him being sighted at the Majedski on saturday.

Pro or Con, Di Canio got Swindon Town promoted, they did fantastically with him at the helm. Reading just might have a chance to stay up with Di Canio, if he took the job. I do see there are reports in the news. As far as football goes, he's got a good head. Also, I'm not sure if he acted unrreasonable with Swindon Town, something about their finances.

Last season, I think he even brought a few Italians to Swindon Town, maybe 3 though it looks like currently, they only have one. It's admirable to get a club promoted I believe in his first year in League 2 and then, there they are in 3rd in League I currently.

Reading are at Manchester United and Arsenal in their next 2 matches. http://int.soccerway.com/teams/england/reading-fc/688/

I'd say they should bring him in.

I don't want to defend someone who some think has acted badly but I think he's been upright in the past few years and he hasn't been racist in what he's done ever if I'm not mistaken, it was those salutes he gave to the Ultras. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Di_Canio Read about him here.

[thenodrog]

  On 12/03/2013 at 02:47, Audax said:

I don't want to defend someone who some think has acted badly but I think he's been upright in the past few years and he hasn't been racist in what he's done ever if I'm not mistaken, it was those salutes he gave to the Ultras. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Di_Canio Read about him here.

Racist? Surely thats a misspelling by you Audax otherwise you are confused. Di Canio is a self proclaimed facist not a racist.

[47er]

  On 12/03/2013 at 10:53, thenodrog said:

Racist? Surely thats a misspelling by you Audax otherwise you are confused. Di Canio is a self proclaimed facist not a racist.

I'm a fool to get embroiled on this but here goes:

Fascists have had different creeds but they have always believed in the purity of their own race as opposed to that of others.

But please can we leave this now?

[thenodrog]

  On 12/03/2013 at 10:59, 47er said:

I'm a fool to get embroiled on this but here goes:

Fascists have had different creeds but they have always believed in the purity of their own race as opposed to that of others.

But please can we leave this now?

You've labelled someone who you don't know as a racist and then want to simply leave it at that?

Case for the defence albeit quoted from the Wiki link. Make of it what you will but the last line appears to contradict your generalisation.

Fascist politics

Since a very early age Di Canio has been a self-proclaimed fascista and has been photographed and

videotaped several times giving the controversial Roman salute to Lazio supporters while playing for Lazio.^[28]

He created controversy by twice using the gesture to salute Lazio fans, first in a match againstarch-rivals A.S. Roma and then

against A.S. Livorno Calcio, a club inclined to left-wing politics.^[29] Di Canio received a one match game ban after the second event and was fined €7,000,^[30] after which he was quoted as saying "I will always salute as I did because it gives me a sense of belonging to my people...I saluted my people with what for me is a sign of belonging to a group that holds true values, values of civility against the standardisation that his society imposes upon us."^[31] His salute has been featured on unofficial merchandise sold outside Stadio Olimpico after the ban.^[29]

Di Canio has also expressed admiration for Mussolini and in his autobiography, praised Mussolini as "basically a very principled, ethical individual" who was "deeply misunderstood".^[32][33] On the day of his appointment as manager of Swindon Town, the GMB union terminated their financial backing of around £4,000 per season of the club due to Di Canio's fascist views.^[34]

Paolo di Canio however insists he is not racist and has supported anti-racism campaigns.^[

[47er]

I haven't labelled anyone Theno, you are the one who said he was a fascist----I didn't.

If Di Canio has indeed assisted anti- racism groups then he is not a fascist, however much he has played up to the notion for whatever reason.

Race is at the heart of fascism and that is that.

[Audax]

I agree, let's leave it at that..that's a political discussion and maybe I engaged in it, Fascism is also a way to run an economy and looks like "Extreme Nationalism", Totalitarianism, Central Government: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism , all I will say, don't know if it is about racism. Juan Peron is shown on the wikipedia page, this is away from Football, but Argentina has all kinds of peoples there. Peron may have been for Argentinans as a people but that doesn't mean he was against certain races, just for the people in the country. Sometimes the government will take over an industry, a business and people might say "Oh, that's Fascist", doesn't have to do with race. Okay, that's my last word. Though one can't talk about Di Canio and not totally his political views, forgive me if I talk about his political views. To me, it seems like Di Canio could have been acting like "one of the boys" sort of deal. I think he has an autobiography at amazon and you see people complaining about him, probably did not even read his book. I don't think he ever had any problems with team mates based on race. He did have some fine footwork too. Think he also may have missed a game or two while at West Ham from his own personal-type problems.

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European fascist movements all typically espouse a racist conception of non-Europeans being inferior to Europeans.^[163] However beyond this, fascists in Europe have not held a unified set of racial views.^[163]

Historically most fascists promoted imperialism, however there were several fascist movements that were uninterested in the pursuit of new imperial ambitions.^[163]

[47er]

If we are discussing Di Canio's abilities as a manager, i'd say he clearly has the talent but not the temperament. Too unstable for me.

[Guest Norbert]

The former Swindon chairman says he manages 'by hand genade', which is probably very apt given his temprament. One thing is for sure, if Venky's brought him here, Shebby and Shagnew would probably need crash helmets for the fortnight he'd put up with our owners. I think 47er summed him up well.

[Audax]

  On 07/03/2013 at 14:11, Amarillo said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21699901

Very few top players survive from the chop from SAF - especially in their biggest game of the season. Does Man. City beckon for Shrek now? After all, 'once a Blue'...

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Franz Beckenbauer says he would love Bayern Munich to sign Wayne Rooney.

Pep Guardiola is set to take over the reins at the Allianz Arena next

season and is likely to be given a substantial transfer budget to

improve his already formidable squad.

- http://int.soccerway.com/news/2013/March/12/beckenbauer-wants-rooney-at-bayern/

That'd be fascinating and Rooney should go to Bayern Munich, that's probably what he needs. Though I'd think the chances of that happening would be slim.

[DE.]

I don't think Rooney will leave United any time soon.

[thenodrog]

  On 12/03/2013 at 11:47, 47er said:

I haven't labelled anyone Theno, you are the one who said he was a fascist----I didn't.

If Di Canio has indeed assisted anti- racism groups then he is not a fascist, however much he has played up to the notion for whatever reason.

Race is at the heart of fascism and that is that.

Racism or patriotism?

[47er]

  On 13/03/2013 at 08:14, thenodrog said:

Racism or patriotism?

Racism.

[Amo]

  On 13/03/2013 at 01:58, Audax said:

That'd be fascinating and Rooney should go to Bayern Munich, that's probably what he needs. Though I'd think the chances of that happening would be slim.

Certainly ain't what Bayern need, that's for sure.