[Archived] Premier League Happenings

[Guest Norbert]

I have a vision of someone like Ryan Shawcross curling one out right next some player who is faking an injury after a typically 'robust' challenge now. Not even Balotelli would do that. Someone in my year at school got expelled after nicking someone's bag and squeezing one out into it though.

[BuckyRover]

They are bound by their own stupid rule that if a ref sees something and deals with it on the pitch then they are reluctant to increase that for fear of undermining the ref. Surely what has to happen is the ref has to deal with immediate issues on the pitch but there is a review if it subsequently appears that things are worse than the ref - who has a blooming difficult job and gets a split second to see things - at first thought. That's not undermining the ref - it's supporting him. In school I often deal with incidents on the ground, so to speak, but refer them to year heads etc, saying what I've done but suggesting they get involved too. Nobody thinks that's weak - it's called teamwork.

I was thinking about this the other day. Its this stupid rule that makes a mockery of all the FA decisions. If the ref had said he saw the incident but thought biting wasn't a sending off no ban would have been issued. If TV cameras prove the ref was wrong retrospective punishment should be applied.

Absolutely stupid, self imposed situation

[Batman.]

Vampire?

Yes, clearly I'm a Vampire.

I cannot for the life of me believe the outrage caused by somebody biting another blokes sleeve covered arm for a couple of seconds. It's why football is so pathetic, and will continue to get more so. We make people believe that by palming an opponent in the face, or biting them on the sleeve like a child, they are in fact carrying out an extremely dangerous and wildly violent act.

Treat it like it is. A nothing incident that caused absolutely no damage what so ever.

[Mike E]

Yes, clearly I'm a Vampire.

I cannot for the life of me believe the outrage caused by somebody biting another blokes sleeve covered arm for a couple of seconds. It's why football is so pathetic, and will continue to get more so. We make people believe that by palming an opponent in the face, or biting them on the sleeve like a child, they are in fact carrying out an extremely dangerous and wildly violent act.

Treat it like it is. A nothing incident that caused absolutely no damage what so ever.

If he'd been given a retrospective ban of 3 games for violent conduct, would you have accepted that?

Rather than 'because it's violent' I'm glad of such bans for people acting like knobheads without reason. But the fact is a bite would constitute ABH, had he broken the skin (wasn't sleeve-covered where he was bitten, but small point).

The extended ban is for 'red card behaviour' while on probation for racism. The 7 games most likely comes from his previous bite ban. While it looks harsh, I'm glad such bans are handed out for such petulance and hope bans come in for more offences.

Certainly if I had it my way wages would be docked for the duration of ANY suspension and the money split between charities. If that doesn't work, I'd consider 1pt deducted for every retrospectively punished dive or red card.

[LeChuck]

Yes, clearly I'm a Vampire.

I cannot for the life of me believe the outrage caused by somebody biting another blokes sleeve covered arm for a couple of seconds. It's why football is so pathetic, and will continue to get more so. We make people believe that by palming an opponent in the face, or biting them on the sleeve like a child, they are in fact carrying out an extremely dangerous and wildly violent act.

Treat it like it is. A nothing incident that caused absolutely no damage what so ever.

It's not because the physical harm the act would cause, it's because it's socially unacceptable and has absolutely no part in the game. How would you feel if the odd youngster starting biting players in junior leagues because of this?

It's a bit like spitting I guess. Nobody is going to get hurt by spitting but it just one of those that you do not do in our society.

[M-K]

I have a vision of someone like Ryan Shawcross curling one out

A horrible vision indeed.

How about when Gary Lineker shat himself during the 1990 World Cup and wiped his arse on the pitch. That should have been an early bath for him.

[T4E]

It's not because the physical harm the act would cause, it's because it's socially unacceptable and has absolutely no part in the game. How would you feel if the odd youngster starting biting players in junior leagues because of this?

It's a bit like spitting I guess. Nobody is going to get hurt by spitting but it just one of those that you do not do in our society.

I don't buy in to the juniors part - a well raised kid isn't going to start biting people just because Luis Suarez did it.

I agree with the rest though. It's not particularly violent, it's just a crazy nutjob thing to do. How does the thought process go to bite someone on a football pitch? It makes no sense and suggests that Suarez is completely off his trolley, especially as its not the first time.

[Amo]

The Mirror must be pro-Scouser. Their backpages have been sympathy pieces for poor Rattata and how's being driven out of Anfield.

[LeChuck]

I don't buy in to the juniors part - a well raised kid isn't going to start biting people just because Luis Suarez did it.

Sorry didn't word it well. Didn't mean to suggest it is likely to happen, I was just trying to provoke the thought of how disgusted you would be if it did happen to try and give the incident some severity beyond the harm it caused Ivanovic.

[Audax]

Suarez should go play in Spain, I know he's talented but he's done these acts in country's where he's not from the Culture, Netherlands and England, maybe he'd fit in better in a Spanish speaking country and would not go crazy. Also, Liverpool have relied on him too much.

[Stuart]

I don't buy in to the juniors part - a well raised kid isn't going to start biting people just because Luis Suarez did it.

I agree with the rest though. It's not particularly violent, it's just a crazy nutjob thing to do. How does the thought process go to bite someone on a football pitch? It makes no sense and suggests that Suarez is completely off his trolley, especially as its not the first time.

Kids do copy "professional" footballers. Whether it's diving, staying down 'injured', spitting or biting.

[T4E]

Well now you've said that I have totally changed my mind and see no reason why you should need to provide proof that what you say is true.

[Steve Moss]

I don't buy in to the juniors part - a well raised kid isn't going to start biting people just because Luis Suarez did it.

I agree with the rest though. It's not particularly violent, it's just a crazy nutjob thing to do. How does the thought process go to bite someone on a football pitch? It makes no sense and suggests that Suarez is completely off his trolley, especially as its not the first time.

The problem is not well raised children. The problem is that there is a significant percentage of children who are not well raised and take their behaviors/ethics from "role models" like Suarez.

And I do believe that Suarez is off his rocker. What kind of sane human being bites another during a game of football? The answer is he doesn't. It's an act of violence, like spitting, that serves no useful purpose and is a clear sign of imbalance. I'd rather deal with the true hard men, the type that would give me a good kicking if given cause or they perceive some advantage, as at least their using rational thought (i.e. cost-benefit analysis) in deciding whether to employ violence. Lengthy bans and financial consequence would cause them to reconsider (i.e. re-balance) the cost-benefit analysis. Nut-jobs that bite and spit won't, as clearly indicated by Suarez' history to date, as they aren't rational.

[Stuart]

Well now you've said that I have totally changed my mind and see no reason why you should need to provide proof that what you say is true.

I don't expect to change your kind about anything. I'm just pointing out what I see in kids playing football. Kids DO copy footballers and popstars whether you like it or not. Habitual cheats like Suarez do no favours to grassroots football.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2313203/Im-going-Luis-Suarez-What-boy-told-fellow-pupil-biting-him.html

http://sports.ukplurk.com/2013/04/children-cheat-in-school-sports-because.html?m=1

[Majiball]

If they hadn't done away with the half-time oranges none of this would have happened, you can't blame the poor sod for being hungry.

[Guest Norbert]

A horrible vision indeed.

How about when Gary Lineker shat himself during the 1990 World Cup and wiped his arse on the pitch. That should have been an early bath for him.

Thanks, now I have a mental picture of Linekar dragging his bumhole across the grass with his legs stretched out like an incontient cat!

[Batman.]

I don't buy in to the juniors part - a well raised kid isn't going to start biting people just because Luis Suarez did it.

I agree with the rest though. It's not particularly violent, it's just a crazy nutjob thing to do. How does the thought process go to bite someone on a football pitch? It makes no sense and suggests that Suarez is completely off his trolley, especially as its not the first time.

In a rugby scrum all they do is bite. Cauliflower ears and all that. Those guys are usually pretty straight laced.

[Guest Norbert]

Not so much now I don't think. And the ears are probably caused by basically being at the bottom of a ruck, tackling etc. rather than biting. So should biting be 'part of the game' batman?

[gumboots]

In a rugby scrum all they do is bite. Cauliflower ears and all that. Those guys are usually pretty straight laced.

If caught they can get anything from 4 weeks to years depending on the severity and the frequency of offending. They regularly get at least 12 matches for it. They play and tackle hard but in this HIV conscious age you have to treat anything like biting very seriously.

[DE.]

Rugby and football are vastly different sports, regardless, with one having far more direct physical contact than the other.

Phil Thompson had an absolute meltdown on Soccer Saturday regarding Suarez. It was amusing seeing Stelling troll him relentlessly and Thompson getting more and more wound up

[K-Hod]

Rugby and football are vastly different sports, regardless, with one having far more direct physical contact than the other.

Phil Thompson had an absolute meltdown on Soccer Saturday regarding Suarez. It was amusing seeing Stelling troll him relentlessly and Thompson getting more and more wound up

Haha, I wish I worked with some scousers, just for this week alone. They do love a nibble!!

[Tom]

Been saying for two seasons that Joe Hart is ridiculously over rated and is an average keeper overall capable of the odd world class reaction save

Week on week he's proved that this season, he flaps at crosses, decision making is none existent and even his usually excellent shot stopping has been faltering all year

Possibly the best England have for now still but can't see it staying that way for too long

The season can't end soon enough for hart though so he can collect himself and start again the last thing he needs is to become a David James

[Mike E]

Been saying for two seasons that Joe Hart is ridiculously over rated and is an average keeper overall capable of the odd world class reaction save

Week on week he's proved that this season, he flaps at crosses, decision making is none existent and even his usually excellent shot stopping has been faltering all year

Possibly the best England have for now still but can't see it staying that way for too long

The season can't end soon enough for hart though so he can collect himself and start again the last thing he needs is to become a David James

Just posted similar on FB. For the commentator to say it was 'an uncharacteristic mistake' suggests he hasn't been paying attention this season.

[Guest Norbert]

Rugby and football are vastly different sports, regardless, with one having far more direct physical contact than the other.

Phil Thompson had an absolute meltdown on Soccer Saturday regarding Suarez. It was amusing seeing Stelling troll him relentlessly and Thompson getting more and more wound up

Part of me wishes I saw that, even if it meant having to watch SEM Soccer Saturday. Was big nose saying 10 games is outragous etc.?

As for Hart, he's good but he's no Friedel, Schmichel or Van Der Saar. Over rated because he's fairly young and English.

[roverandout]

joe hart is still a top keeper, cant think of many better.