tkturner Posted August 11, 2013 Posted August 11, 2013 I will be interested to see the new GDS system in operation for the first time in England, at the Community Shield final today. I cannot find any info anywhere as to what happens when there is a contentious decision, and there is a referral to the new technology, which thenshows that the ball doesn't cross the line. How will the game be restarted? It isn't a foul so surely the defending team shouldn't get a free kick. A bounce up on the goal line would be interesting. Isn't this purely "goal" or "no goal" that is relayed to the refs watch pretty much instantly? By the time players have even had the chance to worry about it and what happens next the decision is made so its either goal indicated by the ref and play stops for the restart or I imagine the ref being quite animated with the "no goal" arm manouvres and play continues?
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cn174 Posted August 11, 2013 Posted August 11, 2013 Isn't this purely "goal" or "no goal" that is relayed to the refs watch pretty much instantly? By the time players have even had the chance to worry about it and what happens next the decision is made so its either goal indicated by the ref and play stops for the restart or I imagine the ref being quite animated with the "no goal" arm manouvres and play continues? Yes it is almost instant as the ball goes over, so there wont be a stop in play unless there is a goal. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23619770 video from the bbc
Amo Posted August 11, 2013 Posted August 11, 2013 Loving the furor over the misers Arsenal beating moneybags City in pre-season. Let's see where they finish come May.
Hanks Posted August 11, 2013 Posted August 11, 2013 League 2 related but this is interesting, link though from article did not work, be nice if they said what year this game was. 1914 Apparently http://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2013-07-26/exeter-city-to-play-brazil-100-years-after-first-fixture/
Audax Posted August 12, 2013 Posted August 12, 2013 1914 Apparently http://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2013-07-26/exeter-city-to-play-brazil-100-years-after-first-fixture/ Fascinating article. Thanks. Wow, they are going to play at the same ground as in 1914.
Majiball Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sunderlands-fitness-regime-revealed-2157446 Swap the morning session of strength to the afternoon, (interference affect and time of day strength performance(?)) and that's a decent training regime. Remove spinning as it doesn't engage the brain ala football and away you go. The swapping of the strength for the aerobic will also aid with 'half-time' and re-starting at a high intensity as all players take time to get back to peak.
Audax Posted August 13, 2013 Posted August 13, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sunderlands-fitness-regime-revealed-2157446 Swap the morning session of strength to the afternoon, (interference affect and time of day strength performance(?)) and that's a decent training regime. Remove spinning as it doesn't engage the brain ala football and away you go. The swapping of the strength for the aerobic will also aid with 'half-time' and re-starting at a high intensity as all players take time to get back to peak. Di Canio gave a hint of this last season, he was going to bring a somewhat Italian type of workout and diet to Sunderland. I'm sure some of this is his own improvising too. Remarkable he noted it. I would have thought playing for West Ham and Celtic, he may have been aware of the situation or else, the Black Cats might be lagging compared to other clubs. I would think these teams in the UK would for the most part, already have a strict regimen. Spinning makes you sweat.
Majiball Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I think it's very refreshing to see a manager take such a line. Most clubs train for 2-3 hours a day and then go home, there working day is over by lunch. People seem to go down one of two routeways in football, hard training or high levels of recovery, personally I don't believe either option is the right one as both aspects are very important. But the issue of time is always raised and players will fight tooth and nail to get away asap. This always means that training aspects are compromised. For example the interference affect is related to the protein AMPK (aerobic improvement) and M-tor (strength improvement) and how they inhibit each other. each takes roughly 3 hours to disapate and so is it worth risking the fitness aspect of training by placing them so close together? As far as I know only one club follows/followed this structure but since they're fitness man walked they probably don't do it anymore as the players clearly didn't like it. Obviously there are other benefits, the best way to prevent injuries is to improve fitness levels and in the grand scale footballers aren't very fit and I would strongly argue that since most goals are scored in the final 5 of each half, this is prove they aren't fit enough for purpose. The food they're serving at sunderland is clearly one things a low GI diet, which is good as again footballers don't really know what to eat and when and how best to recover (food is one of the best ways). This is before I note aspects like a high GI or sugar based diet can induce depression and negative mood. It's not the most tasty diet butit is what your body needs. My comments on spinning as because of exactly what you said, it's very demanding. Recently a study showed that when you engage the brain as in football you can lower the perception of fatigue in the participants. When sports men are used to this (ie both brain and body having high demands) and then exercise solely with the body their feelings of fatigue increase more. This is an issue as if they feel more tired then training declines as does the psychological aspects ie mood and emotions. Also consider footballers are not used to doing that sort of exercise, which will again increase fatigue. I commend Di Canio on his approach it's about time football became more focused on high fitness levels and looked to increase levels constantly as again science has shown improvements can be made wouldn't say football in the main has a strict regime more of a convenience regime.
Guest Norbert Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I have had the perception that training happened for a few hours a day, then they left to play golf/go dogging/giving tramps thosands of pounds the rest of the day. By no means what we would know as full time hours. And I guess we'll see the effects of Di Canio's training later this season.
thenodrog Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Personally I find it pathetic how little attention APPEARS to be given to free kick and corner kick routines, penalties and even throw ins. After the fitness stuff and a light lunch there should be an hour early afternoon dedicated to skill, dead ball strategy and tactics with wet days watching football videos for exceptional items and opponents strengths and weaknesses. Last season we were treated to the unedifying spectacle of Rhodes and CKR squabbling over who should take a pen. Countless times there was neither imagination or intent applied to dead ball situations. This year it's the same and I see that whilst Judge does take good free kicks there is no one with a left foot standing over the ball with him to put doubt into defenders and Gk's minds. All this science and theory is fine but only after the basic stuff is put in place.
Audax Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Sunderland's first match is hosting Fulham, I'd figure Sunderland should comfortably take that. 2-0 Liverpool Stoke City is the early fixture, Stoke City has Mark Hughes as Manager. 2-0 Norwich Everton, Bob Martinez's first PL game as Gaffer at Everton, I see a draw here, 1-1 http://uk.soccerway.com/national/england/premier-league/20132014/regular-season/r21322/ Tottenham has lost Clint Dempsey and Bale's situation is a bit precarious, I'm a bit unsure how they will be playing, at Crystal Palace, I see the Spurs taking that still 2-1. Chelsea to hammer Hull City. City to hammer Newcastle. I think West Brom and possibly Stoke City might have problems with the red zone this year. I think Cardiff will survive amongst the 3 promoted clubs. Swansea were very good against even the top clubs last year at home, they host Manchester United. You think MUFC would win but perhaps a chance for a draw. ---------------- One thing I do like about the Championship League is when the 2 matches a week schedule kicks in rather than the generally one a week in the Premier League.
Audax Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 I have had the perception that training happened for a few hours a day, then they left to play golf/go dogging/giving tramps thosands of pounds the rest of the day. By no means what we would know as full time hours. And I guess we'll see the effects of Di Canio's training later this season. I think it use to be that way. I doubt if most of the clubs have that kind of training regimen still though. At least not clubs like Arsenal, MUFC, Man City and Chelsea. But Di Canio said way last season, Sunderland's training and diet too I believe were messed up. ------------ Also on this note, I once read that in Spain, even the meals fed to players of clubs like at least Real Madrid and Barcelona were published in the fan magazines, they would follow them so closely.
Batman. Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sunderlands-fitness-regime-revealed-2157446 Swap the morning session of strength to the afternoon, (interference affect and time of day strength performance(?)) and that's a decent training regime. Remove spinning as it doesn't engage the brain ala football and away you go. The swapping of the strength for the aerobic will also aid with 'half-time' and re-starting at a high intensity as all players take time to get back to peak. Are you working at a higher level than Paulo Di Canio? Because once again you're coming across as a complete arse, with a huge chip on your shoulder. You just couldn't resist, could you?
rovers11 Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Great couple of signings for hull. Also good news for us as it means cairney will most likely be available for a permanent transfer to us in Jan. Really think cairney can go onto big things. Was tipped as a future England international when he first broke onto the scene.
Backroom Mike E Posted August 14, 2013 Backroom Posted August 14, 2013 cmon england steve k##n is a tosser And Kenny? Souness?
RevidgeBlue Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 With it only being a friendly I'd rather Scotland win if there's 2 Rovers players playing for them. 1-0 Scotland. Absolutely shocking from Hart. Never understood why people rate him.
Backroom Mike E Posted August 14, 2013 Backroom Posted August 14, 2013 With it only being a friendly I'd rather Scotland win if there's 2 Rovers players playing for them. 1-0 Scotland. Absolutely shocking from Hart. Never understood why people rate him. Basically my last 2 fb statuses there haha.
AspRover Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Grant Hanley has to go off for a couple of minutes after a knee to the head; England score. Coincidence?
cn174 Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 He could do with coming off full stop, we're playing in 2 days! Well done to Ricky Lambert, excellent first touch on your England debut!
cn174 Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 There's an England game? Yea vs Scotland. Stupid 2 days before the new season!
Baz Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Proud to see 2 academy lads, plus another of our players on the pitch at Wembley tonight.
thenodrog Posted August 14, 2013 Posted August 14, 2013 Amazed to see that Wellbeck was named MoM. He looked distinctly average to me and I find it rather disconcerting that the MU 4th choice striker can be the best England centre forward.
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