[Archived] Premier League Happenings

[Audax]

Man Utd. started Chicharito Saturday who was subbed in the 57th minute. Van Persie came in for him.

There was an article last week somewhere I read that "Little Pea", Javier "Chicharito" Hernandez is a better scorer than any of the others at MUFC, it may not have worked last Saturday though, perhaps more time. I think RVP is certainly world class. Not sure why he wasn't starting.

I have a mate who is an Everton fan. He used to moan like mad about Moyes saying that he never accepted blame for defeats. It was always someone else's fault. As I read over the weekend; Moyes tried for 11 years to get Everton above Man U. He's managed it in 2 months at Old Trafford.

That's funny.

Maybe it's even possible for some club to get the hot hand, Southampton or other and make a run for it.

[Blue n White Rover]

Had Suarez done what Torres did at the weekend (digging his nails into Vertonghen), the media would have wanted the lad executed.

Should be a minimum 3 game ban for what he did.

[Amo]

Had Suarez done what Torres did at the weekend (digging his nails into Vertonghen), the media would have wanted the lad executed.

Yup, it appears to have been totally glossed over by the mainstream media. I even heard one commentator remark rather blankly: "That's quite uncivilized by Torres". Oh yes, old bean, that wasn't very spiffing, now was it? You can just imagine the hysterical response had that been Ratboy clawing someone's face. I can't stand Suarez, but I can't stand double standards much, either.

[Baz]

Had Suarez done what Torres did at the weekend (digging his nails into Vertonghen), the media would have wanted the lad executed.

Should be a minimum 3 game ban for what he did.

3 games, and would be surprised if he wasnt given them too.

As for Moyes, i see the overturn of all the backroom team as a problem too. Theres a lot of experience, knowledge and nous about doing things the normal way gone. The small things like knowing which players need a bollocking, and which need an arm around them, the way training schedules are set up etc...these are all minor, but can add up to a big thing.

Moyes must be glad he's sat on a 6 year deal at the moment.

[DE.]

A lot of rumours going around that the players at Man U aren't happy with training at all. Will be very interesting to see how they perform against Shakhtar midweek.

[John]

Aside from results, Moyes has shown himself to be out of his depth with his PR so far.

Rooney in best physical shape he's ever been in, gets injured 2 days later.

Public courting Fabregas for weeks when little chance of getting him.

Saying they don't have enough good players to win the champions league - whilst probably true, hardly a vote of confidences for some of them and potentially assisting to create a losing mentality.

He is honest however needs to be careful not to add too much negativity to what is an already poor start results wise. Interesting to see how it unfolds....

[Tom]

Special one or not Jose has been proven a fool in loaning Lukaku out

He's clearly one of the best if not the best target men in the league

[koi]

Utd under Fergie would walk the league this season.

[DE.]

Special one or not Jose has been proven a fool in loaning Lukaku out

He's clearly one of the best if not the best target men in the league

Yep, utterly bizarre. If they had a plethora of top class strikers you'd say fair enough, but they really don't.

[Tom]

Now in 45 minutes he's scored two, set up one with a beauty of a pass and had two more goals disallowed

[thenodrog]

Palace are doomed.

Doomed? With careful management they will set up for years. They will be back where they started but with £100m in the bank. Thats the approximate income of the average championship club over 10 years! Dont feel sorry for them.

[thenodrog]

Now in 45 minutes he's scored two, set up one with a beauty of a pass and had two more goals disallowed

Strong player...... Managers just need to remember never to let him anywhere near a penalty.

[Guest Norbert]

Now, if Spurs make a serious effort in buying Hernandez off Man Utd, they'd be right up there with their current squad. The Mexican lad hardly gets a game and is better than Welbeck, who is a sh_t Rooney. He'd be perfect for Spurs. Of course Hernandez might be perfectly happy being the 4th choice striker at Old Trafford.

[DE.]

United wouldn't sell Hernandez to Spurs.

[thenodrog]

. Of course Hernandez might be perfectly happy being the 4th choice striker at Old Trafford.

His agent will be as happy as a pig in strawberrys. Massive wage and by the time he needs to negotiate his next contract be it with MU or anybody else he's likely to be completely injury free.

[Audax]

Remember when Pardew came in, Newcastle gave him a very lucrative contract. I don't like to be down on clubs but I wouldn't mind seeing the Magpies struggle and seeing their upcoming games, I think that's a definite.

Newcastle, no home-nations players again today.

Everton, 5 England, 2 Ireland, one of those Irish born in Scotland.

http://int.soccerway.com/matches/2013/09/30/england/premier-league/everton-football-club/newcastle-united-football-club/1483508/?ICID=PL_MS_10

I thought Fellaini was a real asset to Everton and he has been for Belgium, if that does not transfer over to Manchester United, I just don't know. Man Utd. may be having to gel under Moyes, except for his speaking up for Keane which a number of managers did, he's okay. The Managers tend to circle the wagons on these issues.

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Rumour Mill with a Sunderland fan mentioning the name Zola as a manager, pertinent to our next match.

I don't think Zola should move, in fact, that rumour, Bless Mercerman but it sounds like one of those unsubstantiated rumours that get passed around. The Sunderland situation would be very sensitive for anyone it seems since it seems they largely replaced, gutted the old team.

United wouldn't sell Hernandez to Spurs.

I thought the story was was that even some of the Spanish Clubs wanted Hernandez but Hernandez wanted to stay at Manchester United. So that seems to go with what you said.

[darrenrover]

His agent will be as happy as a pig in strawberrys. Massive wage and by the time he needs to negotiate his next contract be it with MU or anybody else he's likely to be completely injury free.

Agreed.

However, wouldn't football be better for all if the Karl Oyston mantra on agents be generally used?

Far too much influence, a major cause of disruption and a massive drain of financial resource. Scourge of the game IMO.

[dave birch]

However, wouldn't football be better for all if the Karl Oyston mantra on agents be generally used?

Far too much influence, a major cause of disruption and a massive drain of financial resource. Scourge of the game IMO.

If managers had an interest/ or were made to have an interest (say through the salaries they are paid) in reducing outgoings like this, then I'd be all for it.

As darrenrover says; Scourge of the game.

[Guest Norbert]

United wouldn't sell Hernandez to Spurs.

I know, but he would fit their team very well and he is under used.

[Audax]

I know different times, different era.

Still, some people would look at SAF's early record with Manchester Utd. Looks like the change in staff is talked about since Moyes came in. Well, some people do want to do it their way.

Year by Year Moyes changes coaching staff

[DE.]

The huge difference between when Fergie arrived and Moyes' arrival is that Ferguson did not walk into the team that had won the title the previous season. He didn't walk into a global powerhouse of a club. He didn't have the 80's equivalent of £27M to waste on average midfielders from his previous club.

IMO there is very little comparison between Ferguson's beginnings and what Moyes is doing now. Two very different eras and two very different situations.

[Majiball]

The huge difference between when Fergie arrived and Moyes' arrival is that Ferguson did not walk into the team that had won the title the previous season. He didn't walk into a global powerhouse of a club. He didn't have the 80's equivalent of £27M to waste on average midfielders from his previous club.

IMO there is very little comparison between Ferguson's beginnings and what Moyes is doing now. Two very different eras and two very different situations.

Well I'm very much looking forward to united finishing outside the top 4. Fergies public 'I asked him to retain my staff' makes me think fergie believes he's already made big mistakes. United had a very very strong backroom team and now they have Evertons. Moyes leads the training as opposed to Fergie who let his staff lead it and he observed commentated when he felt the need. It's a huge leap for Moyes and if being honest I don't think he'll last long as he's already upsetting the wrong people.

[Guest Norbert]

Serves Man Utd right for fixing the job for another of Fergie's jock mates. All you have to do to get a job in English football is talk like Rab C. Nesbitt.

[DE.]

Serves Man Utd right for fixing the job for another of Fergie's jock mates. All you have to do to get a job in English football is talk like Rab C. Nesbitt.

I reckon wee Stevie Kean was on the shortlist as well, alongside McLeish and Strachan. Loves the Scots does Fergie, absolutely loves them.

[Guest Norbert]

Moyes, Klopp, Henkeyes, Guardiola or Mourinho. Which would you say is better? Yep, Fergie talked up the Weegie to the Glazers. And it isn't even Scottish, but Weegie managers that get the jobs. And what does that lead to? Roy Hodgson or Shteve McClaren being the England manager.