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[jim mk2]

Allardyce Out

Good to see that like us they have a load of football ignoramuses. Have the West Ham board learnt the lessons of Newcastle and Rovers that you sack Sam at your peril ?

[Jimmy612]

Someone somewhere has posted a similar link to our thread on Jordan Rhodes.

And yet you can't see the same point when it comes to Rhodes.

As Joni Mitchell put it "you don't know what you've got til it's gone".

I see that plain and clear Stuart. He's the best we're going to get. A damning indictment of just how far the club has fallen in 3years. We should all be delighted that we overpaid massively for a first division player, because ultimately in our financial oblivion we can't do any better.

It seems your ability to discuss a players weaknesses has disappeared just as much as this clubs finances over the past 3 years.

[DE.]

West Ham made a mistake in signing Carroll, imo. That money could have been spent much more wisely and it's costing them big time at the moment.

[Stuart]

I see that plain and clear Stuart. He's the best we're going to get. A damning indictment of just how far the club has fallen in 3years. We should all be delighted that we overpaid massively for a first division player, because ultimately in our financial oblivion we can't do any better.

It seems your ability to discuss a players weaknesses has disappeared just as much as this clubs finances over the past 3 years.

It seems your ability to prioritise the problems we have with the team, or consider getting the best out of what we have, has not yet appeared - and perhaps never will. Not until it's too late anyway.

You can make music playing a one string banjo providing that one string is in tune.

What you don't do is swap that one string for two elastic bands.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Good to see that like us they have a load of football ignoramuses. Have the West Ham board learnt the lessons of Newcastle and Rovers that you sack Sam at your peril ?

I've come to the conclusion that only about 25 % of football fans actually really understand what's going on out there. Last game I went to a fool in the next seat to me was shouting for " offside " when a striker received the ball from a throw in ! He looked surprised when I said " You can't be offside from a throw in ".

[K-Hod]

I think Allardyce will get more time than Jol, (who's been on borrowed time for what seems like ages) he'll get potted if results don't pick up soon.

[DE.]

I think Allardyce will get more time than Jol, (who's been on borrowed time for what seems like ages) he'll get potted if results don't pick up soon.

The hiring of Muelensteen seems to be part of a back up plan should Fulham decide to dispose of Jol.

[Guest Norbert]

Is Mully capable of being a manager though? There have been many great coaches who have not been able to be managers. And Steve Kean.

[DE.]

Is Mully capable of being a manager though? There have been many great coaches who have not been able to be managers. And Steve Kean.

He was manager of a Russian club for about 12 days so I guess he has aspirations to become a manager. Whether he's any good is another story, he might never reach the level of Keano but he can bloody well try.

[thenodrog]

Someone somewhere has posted a similar link to our thread on Jordan Rhodes.

And yet you can't see the same point when it comes to Rhodes.

As Joni Mitchell put it "you don't know what you've got til it's gone".

That reminds me. What a pity we were down to 10 men yesterday from the off.... with 11 I think we'd have had all 3 points out of Reading.

[DE.]

It's incredible how City are so good at home and yet so awful away from home. Unless they sort their away form out they'll still struggle even if they destroy five or six more teams at the Etihad.

[Guest Norbert]

He was manager of a Russian club for about 12 days so I guess he has aspirations to become a manager. Whether he's any good is another story, he might never reach the level of Keano but he can bloody well try.

Only a player of Football Manager playing as the leader of their rival team can compete with Steve Kean. He must be a secret Burnley fan.

Back on topic however, Spuds seem to be a team that can look classy in midfield some games, but are toothless. Or get walloped as they did today, against West Ham etc. They do show that cliche about football not being played on paper is true.

[RevidgeBlue]

Good to see that like us they have a load of football ignoramuses. Have the West Ham board learnt the lessons of Newcastle and Rovers that you sack Sam at your peril ?

West Ham made a mistake in signing Carroll, imo. That money could have been spent much more wisely and it's costing them big time at the moment.

Sam is struggling badly at the moment, no matter what type of spin you try to put on it. From his time here I would say he is the ideal man to have as a fire fighter if you're struggling and you want him to do enough to keep your Club up. However his style of football is so one dimensional you're rarely likely to be doing anything more than hovering nervously just above the relegation places and it is terrible to watch to boot. I expect eventually he'll keep WHU up just, and everyone there won't enjoy their football very much.

And before everyone states the obvious, yes, that is better than where we are now.

[Guest Norbert]

Are West Ham that bad to watch, when they have strikers? I don't know as I've not seen much Premier League football.

[DE.]

Sam is struggling badly at the moment, no matter what type of spin you try to put on it. From his time here I would say he is the ideal man to have as a fire fighter if you're struggling and you want him to do enough to keep your Club up. However his style of football is so one dimensional you're rarely likely to be doing anything more than hovering nervously just above the relegation places and it is terrible to watch to boot. I expect eventually he'll keep WHU up just, and everyone there won't enjoy their football very much.

And before everyone states the obvious, yes, that is better than where we are now.

Didn't we finish 10th in his last season with us? Hardly hovering above the relegation places. Bolton managed plenty of finishes in the top half of the division as well.

[RevidgeBlue]

Changing topic, how the hell did Rooney not get sent off for kicking out at his opponent v Cardiff?

If the referee hasn't seen the incident that's one thing but if he hasn't he can't issue him with a yellow which is what happened! He's effectively changed the rules of the game to suit himself, Manchester United and the TV audience because he didn't want to send the star name off that early into a televised fixture.

Another sickening example of how badly skewed the Premiership is in favour of the "big" clubs.

[K-Hod]

He's got plenty of time to turn it around. A few bad results always get tongues wagging in the media.

Patience doesn't exist in football any more, most people don't see past the last game.

[RevidgeBlue]

Didn't we finish 10th in his last season with us? Hardly hovering above the relegation places. Bolton managed plenty of finishes in the top half of the division as well.

Didn't we finish 10th in his last season with us? Hardly hovering above the relegation places. Bolton managed plenty of finishes in the top half of the division as well.

We looked in serious trouble until around February of that season until a late run and last day win took us into a best of the season tenth place. Can't take away what he did at Bolton but it was some time ago now, think the game has overtaken him somewhat tactically since then. Having said that , like Pullis, he'd have been an ideal choice to try and keep Palace up in their position etc.

[DE.]

We looked in serious trouble until around February of that season until a late run and last day win took us into a best of the season tenth place. Can't take away what he did at Bolton but it was some time ago now, think the game has overtaken him somewhat tactically since then. Having said that , like Pullis, he'd have been an ideal choice to try and keep Palace up in their position etc.

Doesn't really matter where we were in February, only matters where we actually finished.

It's been a bad start for West Ham but they'll be better off keeping him on than getting rid.

[Jimmy612]

Sam is struggling badly at the moment, no matter what type of spin you try to put on it. From his time here I would say he is the ideal man to have as a fire fighter if you're struggling and you want him to do enough to keep your Club up. However his style of football is so one dimensional you're rarely likely to be doing anything more than hovering nervously just above the relegation places and it is terrible to watch to boot. I expect eventually he'll keep WHU up just, and everyone there won't enjoy their football very much.

And before everyone states the obvious, yes, that is better than where we are now.

A post based completely on conjecture to suit a very poor argument Rev. Allardyce has now completed 8 seasons as a PL manager. 5 of those, his side has finished in the top 10 of the league. For the other three, two were solidifying Bolton in their first two seasons in the PL before they kicked on, one was helping us stop up. The other one he was sacked in 11th place with Newcastle.

His football is one dimensional yet they went to white hart Lane and won 3-0 without a recognised striker on the field. So one dimensional that when he developed a squad at Bolton he sign the liked of Djorkaeff, Okocha, Stelios, Diouf, Anelka, Campo.

The problem you have here Rev is that you have allowed a media tag to engulf you without formulating your own opinion. Yes Allardyce does employ a direct type of football a lot. But certainly not all the time. Infact, Mourinho said it himself last night in his pre-match interview. I recommend you watch it.

I also might remind you of your hilarious 'smug' post after the Liverpool game under Kean. Be careful what you post, it might just come back and bite you on the arse. If you want to criticise a manager with arguably one of the best records in the PL considering money spent etc then that's your look out, unfortunately it has been known to make you look a little foolish once or twice on here before.

We looked in serious trouble until around February of that season until a late run and last day win took us into a best of the season tenth place. Can't take away what he did at Bolton but it was some time ago now, think the game has overtaken him somewhat tactically since then. Having said that , like Pullis, he'd have been an ideal choice to try and keep Palace up in their position etc.

Over taken him tactically? Remind me what formation 99% of the PL sides now employ? Now cast your mind back to the formation that he has employed ever since his time in the PL started. And before you start going on about 4-5-1, remember, Diouf, Stelios, Anelka, Djorkaeff, Okocha. None of those were particularly designed to defend now were they.

[Stuart]

A post based completely on conjecture to suit a very poor argument Rev. Allardyce has now completed 8 seasons as a PL manager. 5 of those, his side has finished in the top 10 of the league. For the other three, two were solidifying Bolton in their first two seasons in the PL before they kicked on, one was helping us stop up. The other one he was sacked in 11th place with Newcastle.

His football is one dimensional yet they went to white hart Lane and won 3-0 without a recognised striker on the field. So one dimensional that when he developed a squad at Bolton he sign the liked of Djorkaeff, Okocha, Stelios, Diouf, Anelka, Campo.

The problem you have here Rev is that you have allowed a media tag to engulf you without formulating your own opinion. Yes Allardyce does employ a direct type of football a lot. But certainly not all the time. Infact, Mourinho said it himself last night in his pre-match interview. I recommend you watch it.

I also might remind you of your hilarious 'smug' post after the Liverpool game under Kean. Be careful what you post, it might just come back and bite you on the arse. If you want to criticise a manager with arguably one of the best records in the PL considering money spent etc then that's your look out, unfortunately it has been known to make you look a little foolish once or twice on here before.

Over taken him tactically? Remind me what formation 99% of the PL sides now employ? Now cast your mind back to the formation that he has employed ever since his time in the PL started. And before you start going on about 4-5-1, remember, Diouf, Stelios, Anelka, Djorkaeff, Okocha. None of those were particularly designed to defend now were they.

Good post, and you make a good argument but the fact that you, and others, have to go back as far as Okocha and Stelios to make a case for his playing style it does fall down a bit.

Perhaps Sam's 'form' is on the wane?

[RevidgeBlue]

A post based completely on conjecture to suit a very poor argument Rev. Allardyce has now completed 8 seasons as a PL manager. 5 of those, his side has finished in the top 10 of the league. For the other three, two were solidifying Bolton in their first two seasons in the PL before they kicked on, one was helping us stop up. The other one he was sacked in 11th place with Newcastle.

His football is one dimensional yet they went to white hart Lane and won 3-0 without a recognised striker on the field. So one dimensional that when he developed a squad at Bolton he sign the liked of Djorkaeff, Okocha, Stelios, Diouf, Anelka, Campo.

The problem you have here Rev is that you have allowed a media tag to engulf you without formulating your own opinion. Yes Allardyce does employ a direct type of football a lot. But certainly not all the time. Infact, Mourinho said it himself last night in his pre-match interview. I recommend you watch it.

I also might remind you of your hilarious 'smug' post after the Liverpool game under Kean. Be careful what you post, it might just come back and bite you on the arse. If you want to criticise a manager with arguably one of the best records in the PL considering money spent etc then that's your look out, unfortunately it has been known to make you look a little foolish once or twice on here before.

Over taken him tactically? Remind me what formation 99% of the PL sides now employ? Now cast your mind back to the formation that he has employed ever since his time in the PL started. And before you start going on about 4-5-1, remember, Diouf, Stelios, Anelka, Djorkaeff, Okocha. None of those were particularly designed to defend now were they.

A post based completely on conjecture to suit a very poor argument Rev. Allardyce has now completed 8 seasons as a PL manager. 5 of those, his side has finished in the top 10 of the league. For the other three, two were solidifying Bolton in their first two seasons in the PL before they kicked on, one was helping us stop up. The other one he was sacked in 11th place with Newcastle.

His football is one dimensional yet they went to white hart Lane and won 3-0 without a recognised striker on the field. So one dimensional that when he developed a squad at Bolton he sign the liked of Djorkaeff, Okocha, Stelios, Diouf, Anelka, Campo.

The problem you have here Rev is that you have allowed a media tag to engulf you without formulating your own opinion. Yes Allardyce does employ a direct type of football a lot. But certainly not all the time. Infact, Mourinho said it himself last night in his pre-match interview. I recommend you watch it.

My opinion on Allardyce is based entirely on his time here not some alleged "media tag" jimmy. I was a massive fan of his before he arrived here, less so now although I recognise he is a very intelligent bloke who will do a job for you without taking you very much further.

Before that lone away win against Spurs WHU had apparently managed a grand total of eleven shots on target all season.! From what I can gather he has set them up this season with two wingers to try and get crosses into Carrol. In the big man's absence the game plan seems to have completely gone to pot but I don't doubt when or if he returns they'll pick up somewhat and finish above the relegation places.

[thenodrog]

Changing topic, how the hell did Rooney not get sent off for kicking out at his opponent v Cardiff?

If the referee hasn't seen the incident that's one thing but if he hasn't he can't issue him with a yellow which is what happened! He's effectively changed the rules of the game to suit himself, Manchester United and the TV audience because he didn't want to send the star name off that early into a televised fixture.

Another sickening example of how badly skewed the Premiership is in favour of the "big" clubs.

especially as he went on to score one and make one. Cardiff have every right to be @#/? off by that. Cant lie straight in bed some folk.

[adopted scouser]

especially as he went on to score one and make one. Cardiff have every right to be keaned off by that. Cant lie straight in bed some folk.

What a t1t, refs are scared of United, and why didn't Mirallas go on Saturday ?

[Tom]

What a t1t, refs are scared of United, and why didn't Mirallas go on Saturday ?

Or Steeeeeeeevie Geeeee for that matter

Same reason Dirk Kuyt didn't that time I imagine, some refs like to let things go in derby games but went too far with those ones