[Archived] Talksport

[AllRoverAsia]

I cant do anything about that , I'm just a supporter like you . Its hurting me like it's hurting you , I don't have the answers, our fate is not in our hands it's in those who are making it a laughing stock

We gave them all we had and to date they have not dismissed it. In truth though this is not the way we want this resolving because with wrong doings come punishments and we as supporters have been through enough

The full open meeting is on the front page to be listened to via brfcs

Just listened to all of Part 1 and thanks to you guys for making it available.

I was going to post a long comment but the easier way is to listen to what he says, how he diverts the topic, how he constantly promotes himself basically how he says things - who could you believe he was telling the truth - when a lie will do?

Shebby: I am the owners (might have been Venkys) mouthpiece - well at least mouthpiece is accurate.

Late on in Part 1 when he was saying spend 5 ringit to investigate VLL - did he?

[Ewoodbhappy]

I posted the other week that the whole Shebby scenario is a charade.

We are getting the pee taken out of us - BIG TIME!

Who the F was daft enough to sing "Shebby is our King" last night?

The motivation behind all the clap trap is keeping numb skull Kean in the job. Why? Because of an illicit deal sometime back.

People who I do not trust (in no particular order)

KEAN / VENKY's / SHEBBY / ANDERSON / AGNEW / SHAW / THE FA / THE PREMIER LEAGUE / RADIUS SECURITY (Big numpty bruisers prowling the upper JW stand last night)

We are one week into the new season. Its going to be a season of further misery.

I went last night out of morbid curiosity. Think a good few thousand did, judging by the queue at the ticket office.

Hope Saturday is different.

My personal boycott starts properly today.

KEAN OUT!!!!!

[bypass06]

Listen to Brazil having a pop...9 minutes in

http://www.talksport...n/episode/87511

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

I am not saying stopping the protests... just stop collaborating. We can protest without engaging.

This is one of my greatest fears now..we are being 'played'.

[Plastic Head]

If you go on Ewood you are supporting kean and the owners.

You can shout what you want but that is the case.

What would brazil have said if the gate was 2000? Can probably guess but at least he coiuldn"t say do not boo.

If 13500 keep going guess what will change?

Zero

[arbitro]

We gave them all we had and to date they have not dismissed it. In truth though this is not the way we want this resolving because with wrong doings come punishments and we as supporters have been through enough

It seems that all the avenues you have explored are slowly drying up so our only realistic hope is that the Allardyce writ discredits the slimeball and this in turn leads to him being sacked (if Venkys don't go along with sacking of Allardyce because he is a 'f***ing crook').

I just get the feeling Glen that you are becoming disheartened by the whole farce. And who can blame you if you are. You have worked tirelessly for the cause but there must be a tipping point for everybody.

[glen9mullan]

It seems that all the avenues you have explored are slowly drying up so our only realistic hope is that the Allardyce writ discredits the slimeball and this in turn leads to him being sacked (if Venkys don't go along with sacking of Allardyce because he is a 'f***ing crook').

I just get the feeling Glen that you are becoming disheartened by the whole farce. And who can blame you if you are. You have worked tirelessly for the cause but there must be a tipping point for everybody.

To be completely honest, I am not getting disheartened with the whole farce of the happenings at Ewood, Its our own supporters who make it difficult and give them ammunition they don't need. Everytime the supporters have them on the ropes and it comes to the tipping point, there is a number of supporters out there who will try and discredit the group . Daily I get personal digs , and the group gets them daily also, be that via the net, or through third parties, or now at games.

People start rumours and fuel these rumours as supporter politics, but don't understand by doing so they play exactly into the hands of those they wish to overthrow.

I got up this morning to rumours of being somewhere I was not at a time I was not and giving out things which I was not, In fact when I read it it was insinuating I was a drug dealer or something and I must put them in my childrens nappies at games.

These sort of rumours coming from our OWN supporters, How does this help? The amount of defamation of character we recieve daily is ridiculas.

When I was ipswich last week I saw people pointing at me from a far and making comments, the very same people who make these silly twitter comments, but not one of them can come up to me, and talk to me to my face, and have never spoken to my face.

I made a stand because others asked me to, I continue to make a stand because others have supported me and the group to do so, I made a promise to the group members that together we would see this mess through to the end, and my promise is my word.

I do not want fame, special treatment or anything, I like many other supporters just want a club to support like we used to have. In life anyone who makes a stand always becomes a target, but to become a target by the very supporters you are trying to help is a new one to me.

I see people shouting Kean out, Venkys out, slating both Kean and Venkys etc, but the very same people who do this, then slate us for doing the same. I wish these people would explain what they really want, because if they are willing to roll their sleeves up and give up most of their life to do for others and fix this whole mess, then I will gladly go home close my door and give them my support from afar.

So in short the answer to your question, the issues been caused by Venkys and Kean, are no were near as large as those within our own supporter base, which is really sad

[glen9mullan]

face it... we've lost the media battle (some would say the war as well) and to carry on being part of the circus act is becoming both irrelevant and embarrassing. You say you can't do anything Glen but I would say to you to stop being a part of this because the only people who are gaining anything here are the management.

I am not saying stopping the protests... just stop collaborating. We can protest without engaging.

The media battle is tough, some rounds you win some you lose. Better informed journo's fight the supporters corner, ones further afar will print or say a different story.

Kean uses the chin wags he has in bars with people as as supporters supporting him, heard that on many occassions from people at the club.

e.g the famous Sam video, shows supporters having a good time with Kean, This shows the comments, but more importantly shows Kean socialising with supporters.

e.g 2 The video in Ireland last week. Sky said to me off camera last night that it was an error from the supporters as it shows him signing lots of autographs and then one supporter, a minority tries to humiliate Kean

e.g 3 The podcast he did on here is what he uses as talking to the supporters, this was pointed out by Agnew last week, so as far as they are concerned he has met with discruntled supporters.

These may seem little things but in a media war, these are the difference between people feeling sorry for him, and people understanding the facts

[Plastic Head]

My bet is kean will not even turn up at court to defend the allegations, he was just get lawyers to give a ridiculous string of excuses and pay the cash to Sam.

Camt see how he can benefit from turning up at court and appearing in person.

[roverandout]

i used to phone in talk sport when it was a proper station with guys like tom watt, not the nobheads they have on now, haven't listened to those shysters for years.

[A cup of beans]

the issues been caused by Venkys and Kean, are no were near as large as those within our own supporter base, which is really sad

That is exactly how it is. Rovers have some absolute scumbags who follow us away from home- they have always been huge embarrassment, but now they are a hassle and a danger.

As you probably know, I dont agree with everything you and the group have done (just a personal opinion and not a slur on you or the group) but I see its meant for the greater good. The threats and personal abuse are outrageous.

Sadly, I fear it will only get worse.. for many of us vocal fans. Saturday at Ipswich was bordering on 'Social Warfare.'

[blueboy3333]

The media battle is tough, some rounds you win some you lose. Better informed journo's fight the supporters corner, ones further afar will print or say a different story.

Kean uses the chin wags he has in bars with people as as supporters supporting him, heard that on many occassions from people at the club.

e.g the famous Sam video, shows supporters having a good time with Kean, This shows the comments, but more importantly shows Kean socialising with supporters.

e.g 2 The video in Ireland last week. Sky said to me off camera last night that it was an error from the supporters as it shows him signing lots of autographs and then one supporter, a minority tries to humiliate Kean

e.g 3 The podcast he did on here is what he uses as talking to the supporters, this was pointed out by Agnew last week, so as far as they are concerned he has met with discruntled supporters.

These may seem little things but in a media war, these are the difference between people feeling sorry for him, and people understanding the facts

Glen, if you are achieving nothing by engaging with people at the club then surely there comes a point where you need to stop. I think, like many others, that Shebby is here to stop the protests and control the protestors. What exactly do you and Shebby talk about everyday? Does he ever try to get info off you re the 'dossier'? What did you and JA talk about for an hour? I've no doubt you've got these people rattled, but engaging with them seems a one-way street. I get the impression they are more keen on knowing what you're doing than telling you anything that they're doing.

[ABBEY]

my latest

[Sparky Marky]

Glen, if you are achieving nothing by engaging with people at the club then surely there comes a point where you need to stop. I think, like many others, that Shebby is here to stop the protests and control the protestors. What exactly do you and Shebby talk about everyday? Does he ever try to get info off you re the 'dossier'? What did you and JA talk about for an hour? I've no doubt you've got these people rattled, but engaging with them seems a one-way street. I get the impression they are more keen on knowing what you're doing than telling you anything that they're doing.

Wouldn't be surprised if Mr Mullans after a job....maybe he's on the payroll already....seems to enjoy the hob-nobbing......

If not, he's been played like a fiddle.

[Kelbo]

Wouldn't be surprised if Mr Mullans after a job....maybe he's on the payroll already....seems to enjoy the hob-nobbing......

If not, he's been played like a fiddle.

There was absolutely no need for that, a lad who has worked his guts off to do something he believes in, I do think you owe Glen an apology, in my opinion, that was a truly horrible thing to say!!

[glen9mullan]

Glen, if you are achieving nothing by engaging with people at the club then surely there comes a point where you need to stop. I think, like many others, that Shebby is here to stop the protests and control the protestors. What exactly do you and Shebby talk about everyday? Does he ever try to get info off you re the 'dossier'? What did you and JA talk about for an hour? I've no doubt you've got these people rattled, but engaging with them seems a one-way street. I get the impression they are more keen on knowing what you're doing than telling you anything that they're doing.

I ha

Glen, if you are achieving nothing by engaging with people at the club then surely there comes a point where you need to stop. I think, like many others, that Shebby is here to stop the protests and control the protestors. What exactly do you and Shebby talk about everyday? Does he ever try to get info off you re the 'dossier'? What did you and JA talk about for an hour? I've no doubt you've got these people rattled, but engaging with them seems a one-way street. I get the impression they are more keen on knowing what you're doing than telling you anything that they're doing.

I have been asked whats in it, and have never shown it anyone outside of the people who attended the meetings.

We usually discuss the issue's the supporter feelings about Kean, the feelings towards the administration. We are talking about the owners meeting with supporters, and ways forward. We talk at length about employee concerns,(Dont ask how I got involved in that)

Dwindling numbers in crowds, reasons for this,

Its a mixed bag really, We are cautious of the "We are getting played" and anyone who saw my statement on Sky last night will see exactly what I thought of the backtracking

Its a long road back, but communicating the issues through the right channels need to be attempted even if at times they dont work. Shebby has been open in realising the enemy is not in the stands but more within but there is a long way to go before things can start looking up

Wouldn't be surprised if Mr Mullans after a job....maybe he's on the payroll already....seems to enjoy the hob-nobbing......

If not, he's been played like a fiddle.

Unless they want some welding doing, dont think i could be of any help :-)

[ABBEY]

Wouldn't be surprised if Mr Mullans after a job....maybe he's on the payroll already....seems to enjoy the hob-nobbing......

If not, he's been played like a fiddle.

[Ewoodbhappy]

my latest

Totally agree with your blog.

What was our club 2 years ago no longer exists.

I havnt renewed, but went to Ipswich & on again last night. The sideshow that is the actual football has been woeful in both games.

The fans. Well Kean/Shebby & Co have us exactly were they want us. Confused, upset, disorganised, dispirited and divided.

I asked Shebby the first question at the open forum, regards Anderson having any hold at BRFC & What qualifies Kean to remain as manager. Was I satisfied with his answer? No.

Was the whole thing a sham? Yes.

Was Glen & BRAG right to put it on? Absolutely!

It exposed the state of affairs at what was once our club.

It is now not our club.

Last night I was in JW uppper. Most in the ground will not of seen the Knuckle Draggers from Radius security lurking in the background. Big dopes undoubtedly tasked with evicting anyone who aired a view towards the scum that now occupy the directors box. Anyone at Accy may have seen these lot.

I am grateful for all the effort put in by BRAG. They are trying to get the best for BRFC out of a dire situation. I witnessed first hand the abuse Glen put up with at Ipswich. Bang out of order.

The two responsible play right into the hands of Venkys yet claim to be real fans.

Shebby & his people will monitor this site. They will see they have managed to divide the fans.

THEIR PLAN IS WORKING.

I keep on saying it. If there is a smoking gun In the dossier. It's time for it to be exposed. For better or for worse, if it means an end to the corrupt regime at Rovers & Keans removal. Then put pressure on the authorities to act, or get it in the open.

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[Waggy76]

If you go on Ewood you are supporting kean and the owners.

You can shout what you want but that is the case.

What would brazil have said if the gate was 2000? Can probably guess but at least he coiuldn"t say do not boo.

If 13500 keep going guess what will change?

Zero

That is correct , an empty stadium speaks volumes !!!

Until someone proves , who the real owners of Blackburn Rovers ,Kean is untouchable

It is not beyond the realms of possibility that has Kean a share of the business ...

He is not the manager for football reasons ...

[blueboy3333]

Ok thanks Glen, appreciate the response. Personally, i think only a total boycott on matchdays will work. The 13,000 crowd last night was far more than the owners/Kean deserve. 13,000 is also easy to spin i.e. It's just people who don't want to watch Championship footy. Obviously we all know that's nonsense. Anyway keep up the good work.

[adopted scouser]

Wouldn't be surprised if Mr Mullans after a job....maybe he's on the payroll already....seems to enjoy the hob-nobbing......

If not, he's been played like a fiddle.

An apology to Glen plus a retraction, and don't ever do that again.

[AllRoverAsia]

IMO The subject matter of this thread is really Shebby and if he can be 'trusted'

If you haven't already done so you should listen to the full Podcast that carries Part 1 of Shebby at the open forum. Don't just look at the short video clips.

Then listen again to Shebby on Talksport.

Interpretations will differ but in my case it reconfirms what I said from the start of Shebby's involvement at Rovers.

I hope that he has kept his football puntit options open.

An apology to Glen plus a retraction, and don't ever do that again.

OK SM went way OTP but its another symptom of the latest Rover virus aka Shebby

[Exiled in Toronto]

Makes me smile how after KGH it was all "Words mean nothing" until people don't like what Shebby says on Talksport when it becomes, "I knew it! This totally proves everything I said!"

Who cares what he says, all that counts is what he does (if anything)

[AllRoverAsia]

Yes people who talk a lot and offer nothing....................

[patrickvalery]

I'm sorry, but Shebby is quite simply a liar. Nothing more. Shame, because i held high hopes that he might be our saving grace in terms of sacking Kean.