Clitherover Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Even if Sherwood turned out to be a bad appointment I think there's one thing you could guarantee, he would hold his hands up and resign which is more than can be said about a certain bald headed, slithery slimeball we all know and hate.
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Earlydoors Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 For those doubting sherwood and the fact he left rovers on a downer, you need to watch a re-run of a program on sky sports from a couple of years ago. Its name escapes me I am afraid, but was a series whereby 3 club legends discussed memories with their particular club for an hour. The rovers episode was sherwood, Hendry and flowers I think. Basically sherwood said when he first signed, he saw the town of Blackburn, saw the pleasington training ground, and wondered what he had let himself in for. Said he quickly grew to love the town and club, was very sad to leave, and stated Kidd forced him out. Worth a watch for those questioning sherwood's affection for rovers. Sounds like 'Time of Our Lives' - never seen the Rovers one though
Veevs Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Yeah not overly sure on Sherwood to be honest, he is another one who has not even worked as an assistant manager, and hell right now this is probably the most important season in Rovers history.. but given my mum would do a better job than Kean I will take anything.
RevidgeBlue Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 For those doubting sherwood and the fact he left rovers on a downer, you need to watch a re-run of a program on sky sports from a couple of years ago. Its name escapes me I am afraid, but was a series whereby 3 club legends discussed memories with their particular club for an hour. The rovers episode was sherwood, Hendry and flowers I think. Basically sherwood said when he first signed, he saw the town of Blackburn, saw the pleasington training ground, and wondered what he had let himself in for. Said he quickly grew to love the town and club, was very sad to leave, and stated Kidd forced him out. Worth a watch for those questioning sherwood's affection for rovers. I think that's a very rosy re-writing of history by Sherwood. He'd signed a new contract a few months previously but was not unreasonably very unimpressed by the fact dollopers like Dahlin had been brought in on more money and weren't pulling their weight. Sherwood demanded more money to put him on parity with the new arrivals and Uncle Jack similarly not unreasonably said no. Sherwood had only relatively recently signed a new deal. After that there was only going to be one winner. Either way it's completely irrelevant now.
A cup of beans Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 For those doubting sherwood and the fact he left rovers on a downer, you need to watch a re-run of a program on sky sports from a couple of years ago. Its name escapes me I am afraid, but was a series whereby 3 club legends discussed memories with their particular club for an hour. The rovers episode was sherwood, Hendry and flowers I think. Basically sherwood said when he first signed, he saw the town of Blackburn, saw the pleasington training ground, and wondered what he had let himself in for. Said he quickly grew to love the town and club, was very sad to leave, and stated Kidd forced him out. Worth a watch for those questioning sherwood's affection for rovers. Time of our Lives. Sky Sports. Missed seeing that show, think I was away on holiday. Sky Anytime had a list of episodes on, Including Burnley!¬but not the Rovers one!
Bennisfromheaven Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 I like the thoughts of Sherwood, he was that highly thought of at Spurs that he was the only surviving member of Redknapps coaching squad!! He held a technical coordinator role across all squads & was in charge of player development. This guy has plenty of experience & starting his management career at a lower level in the championship will be perfect!! This reminds me of the Hughes appointment & I feel will be just as popular Lastly, Sherwood was mentioned as a disruptive influence in his final days but all i remember was he always maintained a high level of performance & demanded the same from everyone else!!
glen9mullan Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 I have refrained from commenting on this thread and this is my first post on it (Do not appreciate the inuendo's which have spread like wildfire in last 24 hours, which has included DM's on twitter referring to a post I have not made ) I will update on what I have been told and what I have seen unfold since Friday . Lets be clear and my posting history clearly backs this up. I have had big sources at Ewood long before Shebby arrived, and its no big secret I talk to him daily. Having people placed all over Ewood , the training ground ect is something I have been lucky to have for a long time. As I told Agnew just a few weeks ago, if he says it, does it ect he may aswell cc me in on it as ithits me within hours . Thats another story............ This is not a case of who is right or wrong, or knows more than the next gut, whats true whats false, this is all about one thing, our club having a future. The last 4 days has achieved only one thing, supporter fall outs, people's emotions going from one extreme to another, people being caught in the cross fire and those who made sure the end result was not a desirable one, lapping it up at our expense. If there was anytime for supporters to stick together that time is now, its not a pissing contest, and our whole club is in turnoil if the fallout from all this falls the wromg side of the edge. Sometimes in life its waht you dontsay, which gets the results, saying too much often gives the keys to the other side/ Anyway that being said,I have reported below my understanding, I wont be answering any more inudendos's or getting involved with petty arguement. In fact at times I wonder why I even bother. On Sunday night I was in a committee meeting when the news broke of Cryers story, I was jubilant, I even shed a tear with my wife, as the last 12 months have been hell. I had no reason to question the story and did not even check the story, I was just relieved that Cryer was reporting he was a goner n Kamy was also backing it up. I stayed up all night, as I have so many nights the last 12 months, the strain the pressure, the personal insults the lot. I posted this on my facebook wall within minutes of hearing. 12 months of hell , 12 months of family intrusion , 12 months of abuse , but great friends made , bonds which will never be broken . Belief in one another that the we will fight the good fight for the right reasons , never wavered , never gave up , never rose to the hate , and boy it was hard . But a new dawn is born and the rebuilding starts here . Thank you to everyone who believed in one another , who shared their lives and love and stood up for their club unconditionally . Sorry to my friends who ain't seen as much of me , my wife n family who have had to share me. The decision is not confirmed but is looking likely Following the SKY Reporters question to Kean after the Boro game on Friday about the points total not being hit (Which has been muttered in certain quarters) The press spent the next 24 hours trying to seek clarification of Kean would get sacked, this sent supporters across all social network sites into a frenzy, with most demanding his removal. Pressure was being put on all quarters at Ewood for a reaction. A decision which apparently came from the top on Saturday was made for Kean to be removed and a press statement was drawn up and given to Derek Shaw to do the deed as the highest ranked director and sack kean. However Kean went underground (its been alledged) No-one could get hold of him and the press statement stayed on Shaw's desk. The article then appeared in the Mirror regarding Sherwood being the new manager, and as if by magic Shebby turned up at the spurs match (Spurs fan) and the whole social world , media went into meltdown. This was the first step of an incredible back track, Having spoken to Shebby, he was indeed there in a supporters capacity but also as a guest to Malaysian contacts he has within QPR. Someone somewhere and it dont take a brain surgeon wanted this story out there, that a plot to replace the Manager was underway, behind Kean's back which would gain the Manager sympathy from within the media and footballing world In the mean time Local press had the news that Kean was on his way out, and the knowledge of the press release stating this was all everyone was waiting for. The bigger the media frenzy the harder it became to execute the deed and the sacking, Througout the last 12 months the word "PLOT" Has appeared in certain quarters and has been used to good effect to keep Kean in a job In a secret meeting I had last week with witness's it was revealed to us that Kean/Agnew had been telling Pune that John Williams and Simon Williams had been funding protest, this is the same plot Jerome Anderson referred to, and the same plot certain Journo's had been peddling for 12 months. This whole affair is being played out to give Kean the victim card An impecable source, directly linked with the brothers claimed last night that Mrs Kean had phoned Mrs Desai in tears (There relationship has always been strong)and following on from plots, got her to hold off the sacking. In the meantime Paul Agnew was singing like a canary claiming Kean would not be sacked and with it was discrediting Shebby Singh in the meantime, (Which today has worked in Keans favour) The decision to sack Kean came direct from the top, as did the decision to not follow it through. The information people held, (some of the story) was good information but what was going on in the backgroud made the chances of this being done slimmer by the hour, the longer the media put the pressure on with no official word from the club. Kean's disappearance act of not answering calls is all what was needed and his wife's step in. Add to this carefully placed replacement stories etc This was the same tactic used to oust so many directors, (remember the famous director plot after the Bolton Game?) Whats the end result, a whole supporter base confused, the finger pointing and looking for reason at what has happened. The divide upon opinion, Kean still in a job, and people's credibility in question. For those who wanted Kean in a job, its a result, for those who wanted him out, it makes their position now questionable. All the heat is moved off Kean, and the anger and fury now being pointed at Singh and the owners. A couple of rumours to boot, which I have not had confirmed , Kean demanded a massive pay off of £4 Million, (This does not fit in with the offical line I have been told as I was told Kean was uncontactable) Kean was dismissed by Shebby in person ( This has been denied as the deed was passed to Shaw to do as highest ranked director) All in all its a complete and utter mess
Howler Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Re Sherwood. Beggars can't be choosers.....and we are most certainly beggars at the moment with Kean still here.
JAL Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 So are we saying the Tim Sherwood rumour is nonsense
Earlydoors Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 How is Kean's payoff negotiable? Surely, at most, it is outstanding value of his contract - though that is usually negotiated down
A cup of beans Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Staggering, Glen. Particularly the bit about Mrs Kean! Lost for words.
Ralfinho Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 I have refrained from commenting on this thread and this is my first post on it (Do not appreciate the inuendo's which have spread like wildfire in last 24 hours, which has included DM's on twitter referring to a post I have not made ) I will update on what I have been told and what I have seen unfold since Friday . Lets be clear and my posting history clearly backs this up. I have had big sources at Ewood long before Shebby arrived, and its no big secret I talk to him daily. Having people placed all over Ewood , the training ground ect is something I have been lucky to have for a long time. As I told Agnew just a few weeks ago, if he says it, does it ect he may aswell cc me in on it as ithits me within hours . Thats another story............ This is not a case of who is right or wrong, or knows more than the next gut, whats true whats false, this is all about one thing, our club having a future. The last 4 days has achieved only one thing, supporter fall outs, people's emotions going from one extreme to another, people being caught in the cross fire and those who made sure the end result was not a desirable one, lapping it up at our expense. If there was anytime for supporters to stick together that time is now, its not a pissing contest, and our whole club is in turnoil if the fallout from all this falls the wromg side of the edge. Sometimes in life its waht you dontsay, which gets the results, saying too much often gives the keys to the other side/ Anyway that being said,I have reported below my understanding, I wont be answering any more inudendos's or getting involved with petty arguement. In fact at times I wonder why I even bother. On Sunday night I was in a committee meeting when the news broke of Cryers story, I was jubilant, I even shed a tear with my wife, as the last 12 months have been hell. I had no reason to question the story and did not even check the story, I was just relieved that Cryer was reporting he was a goner n Kamy was also backing it up. I stayed up all night, as I have so many nights the last 12 months, the strain the pressure, the personal insults the lot. I posted this on my facebook wall within minutes of hearing. 12 months of hell , 12 months of family intrusion , 12 months of abuse , but great friends made , bonds which will never be broken . Belief in one another that the we will fight the good fight for the right reasons , never wavered , never gave up , never rose to the hate , and boy it was hard . But a new dawn is born and the rebuilding starts here . Thank you to everyone who believed in one another , who shared their lives and love and stood up for their club unconditionally . Sorry to my friends who ain't seen as much of me , my wife n family who have had to share me. The decision is not confirmed but is looking likely Following the SKY Reporters question to Kean after the Boro game on Friday about the points total not being hit (Which has been muttered in certain quarters) The press spent the next 24 hours trying to seek clarification of Kean would get sacked, this sent supporters across all social network sites into a frenzy, with most demanding his removal. Pressure was being put on all quarters at Ewood for a reaction. A decision which apparently came from the top on Saturday was made for Kean to be removed and a press statement was drawn up and given to Derek Shaw to do the deed as the highest ranked director and sack kean. However Kean went underground (its been alledged) No-one could get hold of him and the press statement stayed on Shaw's desk. The article then appeared in the Mirror regarding Sherwood being the new manager, and as if by magic Shebby turned up at the spurs match (Spurs fan) and the whole social world , media went into meltdown. This was the first step of an incredible back track, Having spoken to Shebby, he was indeed there in a supporters capacity but also as a guest to Malaysian contacts he has within QPR. Someone somewhere and it dont take a brain surgeon wanted this story out there, that a plot to replace the Manager was underway, behind Kean's back which would gain the Manager sympathy from within the media and footballing world In the mean time Local press had the news that Kean was on his way out, and the knowledge of the press release stating this was all everyone was waiting for. The bigger the media frenzy the harder it became to execute the deed and the sacking, Througout the last 12 months the word "PLOT" Has appeared in certain quarters and has been used to good effect to keep Kean in a job In a secret meeting I had last week with witness's it was revealed to us that Kean/Agnew had been telling Pune that John Williams and Simon Williams had been funding protest, this is the same plot Jerome Anderson referred to, and the same plot certain Journo's had been peddling for 12 months. This whole affair is being played out to give Kean the victim card An impecable source, directly linked with the brothers claimed last night that Mrs Kean had phoned Mrs Desai in tears (There relationship has always been strong)and following on from plots, got her to hold off the sacking. In the meantime Paul Agnew was singing like a canary claiming Kean would not be sacked and with it was discrediting Shebby Singh in the meantime, (Which today has worked in Keans favour) The decision to sack Kean came direct from the top, as did the decision to not follow it through. The information people held, (some of the story) was good information but what was going on in the backgroud made the chances of this being done slimmer by the hour, the longer the media put the pressure on with no official word from the club. Kean's disappearance act of not answering calls is all what was needed and his wife's step in. Add to this carefully placed replacement stories etc This was the same tactic used to oust so many directors, (remember the famous director plot after the Bolton Game?) Whats the end result, a whole supporter base confused, the finger pointing and looking for reason at what has happened. The divide upon opinion, Kean still in a job, and people's credibility in question. For those who wanted Kean in a job, its a result, for those who wanted him out, it makes their position now questionable. All the heat is moved off Kean, and the anger and fury now being pointed at Singh and the owners. A couple of rumours to boot, which I have not had confirmed , Kean demanded a massive pay off of £4 Million, (This does not fit in with the offical line I have been told as I was told Kean was uncontactable) Kean was dismissed by Shebby in person ( This has been denied as the deed was passed to Shaw to do as highest ranked director) All in all its a complete and utter mess WOW!!
RevidgeBlue Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 I don't understand why it being widely reported in the Press that Kean would be sacked would make any difference. It makes no difference to the situation one way or the other. If there was a huge disparity in the amount of compensation both sides thought should be on offer, then yes, I can see why that might cause us to take a step back and reconsider the position.
Boltinho Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Thanks for the update Glen. WOW: It can't be true. It's just WOW. Mrs.Kean is saving her man. Go hide so the Mrs.Kean can call Mrs.D. How old is he 5? Why can't this be picked up by the press? He will be laughed out of Great Britain and to Italy where things like this could be happening. Or at least by their moms and not by their mrs.
glen9mullan Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 I don't understand why it being widely reported in the Press that Kean would be sacked would make any difference. It makes no difference to the situation one way or the other. If there was a huge disparity in the amount of compensation both sides thought should be on offer, then yes, I can see why that might cause us to take a step back and reconsider the position. Its all in the word "PLOT" and plots when the Manager is apparently the last to know, which we know is Bunkam is something which has always tipped the balance the wrong way
thenodrog Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 I have refrained from commenting on this thread and this is my first post on it (Do not appreciate the inuendo's which have spread like wildfire in last 24 hours, which has included DM's on twitter referring to a post I have not made ) I will update on what I have been told and what I have seen unfold since Friday . Lets be clear and my posting history clearly backs this up. I have had big sources at Ewood long before Shebby arrived, and its no big secret I talk to him daily. Having people placed all over Ewood , the training ground ect is something I have been lucky to have for a long time. As I told Agnew just a few weeks ago, if he says it, does it ect he may aswell cc me in on it as ithits me within hours . Thats another story............ This is not a case of who is right or wrong, or knows more than the next gut, whats true whats false, this is all about one thing, our club having a future. The last 4 days has achieved only one thing, supporter fall outs, people's emotions going from one extreme to another, people being caught in the cross fire and those who made sure the end result was not a desirable one, lapping it up at our expense. If there was anytime for supporters to stick together that time is now, its not a pissing contest, and our whole club is in turnoil if the fallout from all this falls the wromg side of the edge. Sometimes in life its waht you dontsay, which gets the results, saying too much often gives the keys to the other side/ Anyway that being said,I have reported below my understanding, I wont be answering any more inudendos's or getting involved with petty arguement. In fact at times I wonder why I even bother. On Sunday night I was in a committee meeting when the news broke of Cryers story, I was jubilant, I even shed a tear with my wife, as the last 12 months have been hell. I had no reason to question the story and did not even check the story, I was just relieved that Cryer was reporting he was a goner n Kamy was also backing it up. I stayed up all night, as I have so many nights the last 12 months, the strain the pressure, the personal insults the lot. I posted this on my facebook wall within minutes of hearing. 12 months of hell , 12 months of family intrusion , 12 months of abuse , but great friends made , bonds which will never be broken . Belief in one another that the we will fight the good fight for the right reasons , never wavered , never gave up , never rose to the hate , and boy it was hard . But a new dawn is born and the rebuilding starts here . Thank you to everyone who believed in one another , who shared their lives and love and stood up for their club unconditionally . Sorry to my friends who ain't seen as much of me , my wife n family who have had to share me. The decision is not confirmed but is looking likely Following the SKY Reporters question to Kean after the Boro game on Friday about the points total not being hit (Which has been muttered in certain quarters) The press spent the next 24 hours trying to seek clarification of Kean would get sacked, this sent supporters across all social network sites into a frenzy, with most demanding his removal. Pressure was being put on all quarters at Ewood for a reaction. A decision which apparently came from the top on Saturday was made for Kean to be removed and a press statement was drawn up and given to Derek Shaw to do the deed as the highest ranked director and sack kean. However Kean went underground (its been alledged) No-one could get hold of him and the press statement stayed on Shaw's desk. The article then appeared in the Mirror regarding Sherwood being the new manager, and as if by magic Shebby turned up at the spurs match (Spurs fan) and the whole social world , media went into meltdown. This was the first step of an incredible back track, Having spoken to Shebby, he was indeed there in a supporters capacity but also as a guest to Malaysian contacts he has within QPR. Someone somewhere and it dont take a brain surgeon wanted this story out there, that a plot to replace the Manager was underway, behind Kean's back which would gain the Manager sympathy from within the media and footballing world In the mean time Local press had the news that Kean was on his way out, and the knowledge of the press release stating this was all everyone was waiting for. The bigger the media frenzy the harder it became to execute the deed and the sacking, Througout the last 12 months the word "PLOT" Has appeared in certain quarters and has been used to good effect to keep Kean in a job In a secret meeting I had last week with witness's it was revealed to us that Kean/Agnew had been telling Pune that John Williams and Simon Williams had been funding protest, this is the same plot Jerome Anderson referred to, and the same plot certain Journo's had been peddling for 12 months. This whole affair is being played out to give Kean the victim card An impecable source, directly linked with the brothers claimed last night that Mrs Kean had phoned Mrs Desai in tears (There relationship has always been strong)and following on from plots, got her to hold off the sacking. In the meantime Paul Agnew was singing like a canary claiming Kean would not be sacked and with it was discrediting Shebby Singh in the meantime, (Which today has worked in Keans favour) The decision to sack Kean came direct from the top, as did the decision to not follow it through. The information people held, (some of the story) was good information but what was going on in the backgroud made the chances of this being done slimmer by the hour, the longer the media put the pressure on with no official word from the club. Kean's disappearance act of not answering calls is all what was needed and his wife's step in. Add to this carefully placed replacement stories etc This was the same tactic used to oust so many directors, (remember the famous director plot after the Bolton Game?) Whats the end result, a whole supporter base confused, the finger pointing and looking for reason at what has happened. The divide upon opinion, Kean still in a job, and people's credibility in question. For those who wanted Kean in a job, its a result, for those who wanted him out, it makes their position now questionable. All the heat is moved off Kean, and the anger and fury now being pointed at Singh and the owners. A couple of rumours to boot, which I have not had confirmed , Kean demanded a massive pay off of £4 Million, (This does not fit in with the offical line I have been told as I was told Kean was uncontactable) Kean was dismissed by Shebby in person ( This has been denied as the deed was passed to Shaw to do as highest ranked director) All in all its a complete and utter mess Very informative post Glen Obvious that Joan couldn't run a pissup in a brewery too and confirms that she is the stumbling block and that most of the sh1t that has happened to the club over the past 2 years can be put squarely at her door. Whatever happened to "My father taught me that running a successful business is just a matter of commonsense"? Oh btw. Personally I'd have left the first 3 paragraphs out. Makes you sound like a right bleeding heart / drama queen.
Ralfinho Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 I might see if my mum will ring my boss crying and ask for a payrise for me
Jackson Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Aha, the last bastion of girl power. If you can't get what you want, cry. Mrs. Kean Out, it is, then.
A cup of beans Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 After reading Glen's post, I needed to calm down. I found this..
Kelbo Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 So what you are saying Glen, is that our manager, hard man, good thinker, works long hours a pillar of our society, ran away, his wife cried and rang Desai pleading to give him his job back??? No wonder he cant bloody manage, what a wimp! You sad bugger Kean, get away from our football club, you bloody big girl!! As for DesaI, WORDS FAIL ME, almost 20,000 fans crying, never earn what the turd of a manager earns, many losing their jobs are sacrificed for an icompetent, and in my opiniomn a liar and a nasty horrible person who without any scruples saw people at the club sacked due to his actions, you two faced illegitimate Kean!!
NH1875 Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 If it's all true about the wife, then surely the tabloids are gonna report on this? The most ridiculous thing I have ever heard, unbelievably embarrassing.
RevidgeBlue Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 Its all in the word "PLOT" and plots when the Manager is apparently the last to know, which we know is Bunkam is something which has always tipped the balance the wrong way O.K. It still sounds very unlikely to me. If you've already made a decision to sack someone because they're not doing a good job, it's hardly going to make any difference to the situation that someone else has also been lobbying for that person's removal. In effect, ratifying and confirming to you your original decision was right. So what do we put it down to if Nixon is right (for once) and Kean's stay of execution is but temporary?
vyeo Posted September 25, 2012 Posted September 25, 2012 If the tabloids go to town with this, it may be counter productive. Kean will not feel the least bit shamed. Instead, the likeliest outcome is that Kean and Desai would close ranks so that they save face, and Desai may just give him a contract extension to show that they never intended to sack him at all.
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