[Archived] Kean Yet To Be Sacked

[blue_n_white99]

Have to say that Dunny has been nothing but professional and reserved in his comments on the current regime. He get's asked enough questions from disgruntled fans like myself as to what the hell is going on, but shrugs his shoulders and says he has to respect the people that pay his wages. But you can sense by his body language he feels like the rest of us, given he is a genuine rovers fan himself. Its a very tough position he is personally put in. Would you publically slag off your employers and risk the sack?

Think you'll find the management did not think he was injured for the Cup game as to why he has not featured although been on bench for last few games. Says it all that Monkey head will put him on the bench to appease the locals with no intention of bringing him on as a sub.

I remember him supporting Kean, telling us fans we should get real, strangely he signed a new contract a week or so later...fekk him he's a keanocchio ar$e licker who didn't give a toss about the fans when he got his little bag of silver

[Mercer]

Nothing at all would be a start. Dunny didn't exactly have to rabbit on, did he? To me it highlights a bizarre situation. Somehow the players must really take to Kean. And yet his managerial record is appalling.

Really ?

I think there have been more speculated disputes and, allegedly, physical altercations, between Kean and the players than with any other Rovers manager that I have known.

Try your theory with Phil Jones, Diouf, Kalinic, Emerton, Nelsen, Salagado, Nzonzi to name but a few of those who have gone, also, amongst those who are there now, I would ask Robbo, Givet, Pedersen and Simon, and that's just for starters.

I don't think there is any smoke without fire !

[blue_n_white99]

We also can't be too hard on the players as they are simply trying to protect their jobs. It's not like we have a star-studded side where the players know that they can get a move easily, if you knew that by speaking out you might be stuck in the reserves for months you would probably keep your mouth shut and do the best to avoid any controversy.

That is quite different to openly coming out saying the fans are out of order as Dunn and Orr have both done, they are both rimmers along with Agnew, Hendry, Shaw and Kung fu panda and need to see the exit lights on their way out.

[den]

Fireproof jacket on.

Easy article for Ferguson to write but the owners do seem to have been trying to rectify many of the mistakes they made prior to relegation.

Amazed that you now say the owners have ever made mistakes Simon.

The trustees being replaced by the Raos, Sacking Allardyce, the removal of Williams, Finn and almost everyone else was never going to be a problem you regularly told us.

[thenodrog]

Big deal in Pune but I didnt think the Raos themselves would be shaving heads for Ganpati.

I just hope they are rolling them!

[thenodrog]

Just to add a slightly different spin; I am a season ticket holder with my young son. He lives and breathes rovers and doesn't fully grasp the current situation. We went down to the Bristol game last week so can be considered as keen as most. We both love to watch rovers and wouldn't miss a game under any circumstances. You will never get a total boycott because not everybody feels as desperate as people on this forum, who, let's not forget make up a relatively small percentage of fans in totality.

I would never boycott a game for the reasons I have described.

However, I would never seek to impose my own will on others or belittle anyone for making their own personal choices in life.

I would but then again I'm not the stuff that conscientious objectors are made of either.

ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!!

It is only to be expected that ANY man's wife will fight his corner in a situation like this, and nobody can blame her for that. Also remember we are decent people and we have no quarrel with Mrs Kean. Attacking her verbally or any other way would be quite the wrong thing to do, and I am both surprised and disappointed that ANY Rovers fan could even contemplate such an action.

Oh I don't know Fife.... a chant to Kean of 'pussy whipped, pussy whipped, pussy whipped' to the tune of 'here we go' would be well funny.

Murphys wife has received abuse on twitter from some rovers supporters. Also disgraceful behaviour.

If she's stupid enough to identify herself on some 'rent a friend for numpties' site then more fool her.

Correct, Jimmy Hill was their manager and if my memory serves me correctly, Bobby Gould got their winner.

I can still see a blatant pen for handball not being given in the second half.

[Gav]

David Dunn on the other hand.........fans need to get real

Thats an old article calling for support during the premiership campaign, probably not how he feels now I'd wager.

[thenodrog]

The upshot of having so much quality in the squad is that despite being poorly managed, we are still in a challenging position. Kean (and Black imo) should be put on gardening leave whilst a permanent appointment is found with Brunskill being given caretaker charge.

Unless Shebby is a total plonker he will have one already and waiting...... in fact he virtually said as much in King Georges Hall.

[dubdubdub]

Totally agree - and this has to apply to everything from the owners, players and supporters. We need to get fully behind the team and the club - so we give ourselves the best chance of promotion.

If the owners get rid of Kean and replace him with a decent manager and the fans still continue to knock the owners/manager/players then I fear Venkys will throw the towel in completely. Rather than selling us however i'm certain they'd be content to let us rot for the sake of their pride and to simply sell off what assets we have.

[Kelbo]

Couldn't disagree more on the basis that it didn't take Allardyce long did it? After Ince not being able to buy a win for months once a proper manager was installed we won the very first match 3-0 v Stoke if my memory serves me correctly.

Quite correct, fans singing, 'we got our Rovers back, defended well in two banks of four and hit Stoke on the break with quick counters!

[thenodrog]

Or they are just trying to enjoy the football on the pitch.

God help them if the Boro match is standard fare.

Amazed that you now say the owners have ever made mistakes Simon.

The trustees being replaced by the Raos, Sacking Allardyce, the removal of Williams, Finn and almost everyone else was never going to be a problem you regularly told us.

Ouch!

[gazsimm]

if kean gets sacked, which i hope is very soon, which manager do you think will get the fans back in Ewood. I am going for Shearer!!

[thenodrog]

Thats an old article calling for support during the premiership campaign, probably not how he feels now I'd wager.

I could be wrong but I'd imagine Dunny is doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. Only my opinion but an about turn by Dunny now will be down to him having his nose pushed out by a crap and disinterested OAP replacing him simply cos he'll no doubt be cutting a slice of his massive remuneration to Coco.

if kean gets sacked, which i hope is very soon, which manager do you think will get the fans back in Ewood. I am going for Shearer!!

What a strange statement...... Shearer is not a manager, never has been and imo never will be. He's simply not got what it takes.

[RevidgeBlue]

Amazed that you now say the owners have ever made mistakes Simon.

The trustees being replaced by the Raos, Sacking Allardyce, the removal of Williams, Finn and almost everyone else was never going to be a problem you regularly told us.

Been saying that for a while Den.

The people who replaced the Trustees with the Rao's were ermm............ the Trustees. So that's their responsibility really, not the fans'. Having said that might the Rao's finally come good if they can combine continued investment in the team with getting the one single most important appointment at the Club right? That of the manager? .

The removal of Allardyce et al need not have been such a problem imo had they been replaced in timely fashion by people of similar calibre. They weren't. All that said, had we appointed a top notch manager to replace Allardyce, and results on the pitch had been good, relatively little attention would have been paid imo to the departures of anyone behind the scenes if I can refer to the likes of John Williams and Tom Finn in that manner. If you check my posts at the time Kean was first appointed you would also find that I was originally expecting Sam to be replaced by a manager of similar experience who merely played a more expansive brand of football - he wasn't. That has been the beginning and end of our downfall.

[RevidgeBlue]

Ouch!

Being ribbed by two people who no longer attend matches feels like being savaged by a dead sheep as Denis Healey once famously said of Geoffrey Howe.

Touche!

[John]

"@MirrorAnderson: You'd better move quick with your advert/banner because he's only has one game left at most. Venky's are negotiating his pay-off."

[RibbleValleyRover]

What a strange statement...... Shearer is not a manager, never has been and imo never will be. He's simply not got what it takes.

Agreed. It's a dangerous path appointing a manager just because he was a Rovers great as a player. It shouldn't matter what their history was, it all comes down to their managerial ability and how good a fit they would be if they came in.

[RevidgeBlue]

"@MirrorAnderson: You'd better move quick with your advert/banner because he's only has one game left at most. Venky's are negotiating his pay-off."

Promising.

The rumours would appear to be coming from too many different sources now for them to be all completely untrue.

[Veevs]

Love your sig John..

[den]

Being ribbed by two people who no longer attend matches feels like being savaged by a dead sheep as Denis Healey once famously said of Geoffrey Howe.

Touche!

[RevidgeBlue]

Agreed. It's a dangerous path appointing a manager just because he was a Rovers great as a player. It shouldn't matter what their history was, it all comes down to their managerial ability and how good a fit they would be if they came in.

Ditto Sherwood really.

[Tom]

Promising.

The rumours would appear to be coming from too many different sources now for them to be all completely untrue.

He may have just got this from his colleague Nicko though but we can hope

[Kelbo]

Been saying that for a while Den.

The people who replaced the Trustees with the Rao's were ermm............ the Trustees. So that's their responsibility really, not the fans'. Having said that might the Rao's finally come good if they can combine continued investment in the team with getting the one single most important appointment at the Club right? That of the manager? .

The removal of Allardyce et al need not have been such a problem imo had they been replaced in timely fashion by people of similar calibre. They weren't. All that said, had we appointed a top notch manager to replace Allardyce, and results on the pitch had been good, relatively little attention would have been paid imo to the departures of anyone behind the scenes if I can refer to the likes of John Williams and Tom Finn in that manner. If you check my posts at the time Kean was first appointed you would also find that I was originally expecting Sam to be replaced by a manager of similar experience who merely played a more expansive brand of football - he wasn't. That has been the beginning and end of our downfall.

If you were buying into a business, not just football, prior to buying that particular business, you would look at the financial side, its success in the market place and then discuss with your board of directors ways which the club could be taken forward, you would also set a timescale to assess the situation, learn about the business, keep it on a steady footing and then plan a strategy to improve the said company, Venkys didnt do that, they came in like a bull in a China shop and made awful decisions, there was no need to sack Allardyce at that juncture and indeed it cost them dearly in place money and the pay offs for Sam and Neil McDonald, then the pay offs for both Tom Finn and JW.

It was foolish, unbusinesslike and predetermined without doing your homework and then last year, the culmination of those bad decisions ended in relegation and a further loss of revenue, we havent even touched Kean at that point and his inability to do the job, Rovers were an established Premier League team and nothing to suggest that would have changed under Allardyce. I will admit, on occassions, the football was a little dire but to coin a phrae from Ternent when he was down the road at Burnley, you cant race a Ferrari with a Mini. We were punching above our weight and the amount of cash given for new players under Sam was quite small in relation to the top 6 teams in the league. Given those facts, a good businessman/woman would have concluded that to take the club forward, a greater investment would be required and that should have been budgeted for and implemented, if, as I suspect, they hadnt the finances to make that kind of investment, they should have left well alone and the poor decisions made, as previously stated, has cost them a packet. It wouldnt have mattered who the new manager was, there would simply have had to be a real investment for the club to move forward, OK, I agree, there may have been a manager around who could have replicated what Sam achieved at Rovers but they are few and far between as Allardyce had a method which gained results, we got Kean and the rest is history.

[RevidgeBlue]

Am I the only one who doesn't feel enthused by Tweet "rumours" any more? Not shooting the messenger or the Tweeter but who knows what the owners will decide in the next day or hour or minute?!

I wouldn't pay any attention whatsoever to a rumour on Twitter normally but was assuming (ok hoping as well) that it carried a bit more weight coming from a reporter as opposed to just anyone.

[A cup of beans]

Am I the only one who doesn't feel enthused by Tweet "rumours" any more? Not shooting the messenger or the Tweeter but who knows what the owners will decide in the next day or hour or minute?!

Agreed. Too many hopes have been dashed. Praying though.