[Archived] Kean Yet To Be Sacked

[gazsimm]

"@MirrorAnderson: You'd better move quick with your advert/banner because he's only has one game left at most. Venky's are negotiating his pay-off."

Please be true, i just hope he's gone before the weekend, coz if we win at Charlton on Saturday, what happens then?

[Fife Rover]

I could be wrong but I'd imagine Dunny is doing the right thing for the wrong reasons. Only my opinion but an about turn by Dunny now will be down to him having his nose pushed out by a crap and disinterested OAP replacing him simply cos he'll no doubt be cutting a slice of his massive remuneration to Coco.

What a strange statement...... Shearer is not a manager, never has been and imo never will be. He's simply not got what it takes.

Dammit Theno! When are you going to stop writing things that I cannot disagree with?

[Ferrit]

"@MirrorAnderson: You'd better move quick with your advert/banner because he's only has one game left at most. Venky's are negotiating his pay-off."

Still money well spent.

[den]

Some more twitter stuff for you:

David Anderson ‏@MirrorAnderson

@eirikasse: even Kean himself admits he's facing the end

David Anderson ‏@MirrorAnderson

I think it's now down to agreeing his severance package.

[iBL4cKBuRn]

They are apparently now just working out his pay off.

However, if true than surely it makes Cryer & Kamy sources saying Mrs D changed mind wrong? Because she wouldn't change her mind then agree his pay off.

Time will tell, & of course I appreciate what anyone says who has info, not hating on it just trying to work it all out.

[RevidgeBlue]

If you were buying into a business, not just football, prior to buying that particular business, you would look at the financial side, its success in the market place and then discuss with your board of directors ways which the club could be taken forward, you would also set a timescale to assess the situation, learn about the business, keep it on a steady footing and then plan a strategy to improve the said company, Venkys didnt do that, they came in like a bull in a China shop and made awful decisions, there was no need to sack Allardyce at that juncture and indeed it cost them dearly in place money and the pay offs for Sam and Neil McDonald, then the pay offs for both Tom Finn and JW.

It was foolish, unbusinesslike and predetermined without doing your homework and then last year, the culmination of those bad decisions ended in relegation and a further loss of revenue, we havent even touched Kean at that point and his inability to do the job, Rovers were an established Premier League team and nothing to suggest that would have changed under Allardyce. I will admit, on occassions, the football was a little dire but to coin a phrae from Ternent when he was down the road at Burnley, you cant race a Ferrari with a Mini. We were punching above our weight and the amount of cash given for new players under Sam was quite small in relation to the top 6 teams in the league. Given those facts, a good businessman/woman would have concluded that to take the club forward, a greater investment would be required and that should have been budgeted for and implemented, if, as I suspect, they hadnt the finances to make that kind of investment, they should have left well alone and the poor decisions made, as previously stated, has cost them a packet. It wouldnt have mattered who the new manager was, there would simply have had to be a real investment for the club to move forward, OK, I agree, there may have been a manager around who could have replicated what Sam achieved at Rovers but they are few and far between as Allardyce had a method which gained results, we got Kean and the rest is history.

Can't disagree with any of that, a very good summary. The only rider I will add which you may not agree with is that under the previous owners with zero investment, we were going down sooner or later Sam or no Sam.

It's not unusual for new owners to want to do things their way when they come into a venture and to bring in their own people but it has to be implemented gradually.

We were dying a slow lingering death under the Trustees. The Rao's came in and ripped the life support machine off the wall. Hopefully we can patch it up and get it back up and running again with the appointment of the right manager.

[DavidMailsTightPerm]

if kean gets sacked, which i hope is very soon, which manager do you think will get the fans back in Ewood. I am going for Shearer!!

Shearer would be brilliant to initially put bums on seats - and get the sponsors in.

There has to be doubts as to his managerial ability - based on the limited time he was manager at Newcastle. Having said that - he actually has more first team managerial experience (though limited) than Sherwood - who would appear to be the owners favourite at the moment.

Big question - could Shearer fulfill the Dalglish role - i.e. inspire the team on match days while a decent back room staff cover tactics in the same way Harford did ?

[Colt Seavers]

May I suggest you and your son choose an alternative activity for the day by way of distraction. I'm sure there's lots of other places he enjoys going to and it won't kill either of you to miss the game.

It will also be a talking point for you both in years to come.

My attendance at matches depends on my work roster and I'm free to attend against Wolves.

Much as it will hurt me to miss the match I'm going to for the greater good.

Thanks for the reply; yes you are absolutely entitled to make any suggestion to me as you see fit! You are quite right- there are lots of other things we enjoy doing.

But I will undoubtedly choose the rovers!

[EgyptianPete]

If the owners get rid of Kean and replace him with a decent manager and the fans still continue to knock the owners/manager/players then I fear Venkys will throw the towel in completely. Rather than selling us however i'm certain they'd be content to let us rot for the sake of their pride and to simply sell off what assets we have.

Once Coco has GONE why would we want to knock the new manager he would get 110% or more backing for sure, and yes we are still peed off with Venky's but i am sure we the fans won't chant for them out, i imagine it should be or would be all for the cause to get promotion.

[JMillZz]

N'Zonzi - would have wanted to go regardless of who the manager was.

Nelsen - his gripe was with the owners not paying his contract up.

Kalinic - was already disgruntled by lack of performances under the very man who bought him.

Emerton - clicky and have a quick Google for "brett emerton kean".

Diouf - yep, he did indeed speak out against Kean. But Allardyce aside, who doesn't he speak out against?

You did forget Keith Andrews who spoke out against the club in general after he left. Andrews' gripe was more with the fans - and rightly so. He was treated woefully.

My general point is that no players have really spoken badly of Kean. The ones who did speak out did so against the owners.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.

Is it not highly coincidental that numerous more players desired to leave under the current regime compared to Allardyce?

Diouf came out slating Kean. Diouf is a hot head but he said us fans didn't deserve what was happening to us. I respect him for this.

Emerton went from being happy at a club he loves to wanting out. I doubt he'd have left if Allardyce had remained in charge,

N'zonzi wanted to leave because of Kean. Even if we had stayed up he would have gone and the fact he was so ridiculously dropped by Kean at the end of last season no doubt helped his decision, I still think the dropping of N'zonzi really did leave us with no chance of staying up last year.

Nelsen thought Kean was a clown. He badmouthed him to his knee specialist who happens to be the same specialist as a good friend of mine from Uni. (Same injury). The fact Nelsen left without a comment shows how he was disgruntled, coupled with the lies from Kean about him still being injured and then him playing for Spurs a week later.

Kalinic was also reported to have had a huge fall out with Kean, especially after him scoring and then being dropped. Further emphasis on Kean's tactical retardation.

Goodwillie has said to me and many others on nights out that Kean is a clown. Appears alcohol is a great truth serum.

Why would these players feel the need to come out and say "Kean is an absolute moron and I left because of him" ?? Such things can damage their reputations and negatively affect their careers. The chances are they were paid settlements to keep quiet or maybe just nudged in such a silent direction.

For you to speculate that the players who left were happy with Kean simply because they didn't comment to the media highlights your naivety. The overwhelming evidence for me is the number of players who have left under Kean's tenure. It would be ridiculous to assume they were happy with his management because his record speaks for itself. The players have seemed disillusioned on the field for almost all of Kean's reign.

[eire3382]

They are apparently now just working out his pay off.

However, if true than surely it makes Cryer & Kamy sources saying Mrs D changed mind wrong? Because she wouldn't change her mind then agree his pay off.

Time will tell, & of course I appreciate what anyone says who has info, not hating on it just trying to work it all out.

There is really no point in trying to apply logic to any of this really.

We are in the middle of a horror movie, really all we can hope for is to be still standing when the credits start rolling!

[davulsukur]

Surely if its just compo to be agreed he will be no where near the training ground and most definately not in charge for the next game?

[gazsimm]

does anybody know if Kean took training today?

[Fife Rover]

If you were buying into a business, not just football, prior to buying that particular business, you would look at the financial side, its success in the market place and then discuss with your board of directors ways which the club could be taken forward, you would also set a timescale to assess the situation, learn about the business, keep it on a steady footing and then plan a strategy to improve the said company, Venkys didnt do that, they came in like a bull in a China shop and made awful decisions, there was no need to sack Allardyce at that juncture and indeed it cost them dearly in place money and the pay offs for Sam and Neil McDonald, then the pay offs for both Tom Finn and JW.

It was foolish, unbusinesslike and predetermined without doing your homework and then last year, the culmination of those bad decisions ended in relegation and a further loss of revenue, we havent even touched Kean at that point and his inability to do the job, Rovers were an established Premier League team and nothing to suggest that would have changed under Allardyce. I will admit, on occassions, the football was a little dire but to coin a phrae from Ternent when he was down the road at Burnley, you cant race a Ferrari with a Mini. We were punching above our weight and the amount of cash given for new players under Sam was quite small in relation to the top 6 teams in the league. Given those facts, a good businessman/woman would have concluded that to take the club forward, a greater investment would be required and that should have been budgeted for and implemented, if, as I suspect, they hadnt the finances to make that kind of investment, they should have left well alone and the poor decisions made, as previously stated, has cost them a packet. It wouldnt have mattered who the new manager was, there would simply have had to be a real investment for the club to move forward, OK, I agree, there may have been a manager around who could have replicated what Sam achieved at Rovers but they are few and far between as Allardyce had a method which gained results, we got Kean and the rest is history.

Once again Kelbo a superb summation of the actual situation as it happened. No exageration or B/S just plain facts summarised nicely. What a huge shame that this post cannot be copied and sent in a registered envelope to Pune F.A.O. Mrs A. Desai.

[EgyptianPete]

Ditto Sherwood really.

Whoa there chaps, for two long years we have wanted Coco out, now it my happen we are debating if A,B or C is any good, for Christs sake ANYBODY has to be better than Kean, and if it is an ex Rover, well it may start the long process of re igniting the passion we all feel for our club.

[Earlydoors]

I think, from posts on Monday night, the calculations are not just about paying off #keanout

It's also about finding the money for compensation of any currently employed THFC coach

and demonstrating to same person plus assistant that funds are there for them in the future

[AJW]

They are apparently now just working out his pay off.

However, if true than surely it makes Cryer & Kamy sources saying Mrs D changed mind wrong? Because she wouldn't change her mind then agree his pay off.

Time will tell, & of course I appreciate what anyone says who has info, not hating on it just trying to work it all out.

unless of course Kean has grown a pair and said something like "right ok if Mrs D has turned against me i'll go but i want x"

[Black Burn]

They are apparently now just working out his pay off.

However, if true than surely it makes Cryer & Kamy sources saying Mrs D changed mind wrong? Because she wouldn't change her mind then agree his pay off.

Time will tell, & of course I appreciate what anyone says who has info, not hating on it just trying to work it all out.

On the other hand it would back up what Alan Nixon has been saying all along......

And neither Cryer nor Kamy said that Mrs. Desai changed her mind to sack Kean, they only said she postponed the sack instead of doing it on Monday as was originally planned. In fact, weren't both Cryer and Kamy confident that it was only a matter of time before Kean was sacked eventually? Almost every source here seems confident that Kean will definitely be sacked, the only thing they are disagreeing on is when he will be sacked.

[BigBar]

how much is Kean getting a year does anyone know? surely the max he can get is the remainder of his contract?? not sure if thats how it works....

[gazsimm]

as Kean took training today

[blue_n_white99]

It will be interesting to see once coco finally does one if any of the many managers, pundits and journos who lauded his dignity and abilities will be attempting to harvest his skills, I personally hope he gains employment at the clubs of all those fekkers who called Rovers fans, see how they put up with his BS

[Earlydoors]

how much is Kean getting a year does anyone know? surely the max he can get is the remainder of his contract?? not sure if thats how it works....

I thought that was the case too

I think he may be on £1.3m per year with 8 months remaining so = c£800k MAX

[iBL4cKBuRn]

On the other hand it would back up what Alan Nixon has been saying all along......

And neither Cryer nor Kamy said that Mrs. Desai changed her mind to sack Kean, they only said she postponed the sack instead of doing it on Monday as was originally planned. In fact, weren't both Cryer and Kamy confident that it was only a matter of time before Kean was sacked eventually? Almost every source here seems confident that Kean will definitely be sacked, the only thing they are disagreeing on is when he will be sacked.

Yeah, maybe so.

I just read Kamy mentioned she signed it off then changed her mind.

[martonrover]

Thanks for the reply; yes you are absolutely entitled to make any suggestion to me as you see fit! You are quite right- there are lots of other things we enjoy doing.

But I will undoubtedly choose the rovers!

Fair enough, will be a demoralising experience though. Let's hope he's gone beforehand and there's an air of celebration instead.

[rovers11]

Sherwood is going to be an excellent manager. I have heard a lot about his coaching skills at Spurs and they genuinely see him as their future manager.

He would, however, need an experienced coaching team around him if he were to take over at Rovers. He is a better prospect than Shearer.

Hopefully shouldn't be too much longer before Venky's put us out of our misery and get rid of Kean. Kean knows he's a gonner now - his friends in the press have confirmed that.