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[alexanders]

chaddy. any of those 3 get the job and im out

Lol @ our fans.

Its like : "If I dont get to pick teams Im going home"

[LeChuck]

To try and calm the hysteria, here is a list of managers that have gained promotion from the Championship over the last three years:

Brian McDermott, Nigel Adkins, Sam Allardyce, Neil Warnock, Paul Lambert, Brendan Rodgers, Chris Hughton, Robert Di Matteo, Ian Holloway

Not a very exciting bunch of names, is it? Only Sam Allardyce and Neil Warnock were proven at the time they were hired by those clubs. The rest had been around lower clubs without showing any proven record of success.

If any of those were appointed for us now (as their reputation/experience was at the time), I think there would be outrage. We really need to give the new guy, whoever it is, a proper chance.

[BigBar]

And he might bring Keith back! Sorry den.

Hahahahahaha.....now thats funny!!! oh and his name is Keef!!

[Ste B]

We really need to give the new guy, whoever it is, a proper chance.

Thats all we can do.

[alexanders]

I am overly optimistic ( even though we have been trough misery for the last 20 months) and I think there are a lot of potential candidates. I would be happy with most of them. OGS, Robinson, Shearer and Sherwood in particular.

[Clitherover]

To think a lot of people on here were moaning about Shearer a couple of days ago, we could end up with a lot, lot worse.

[JAL]

Glen Mullan has announced on Twitter that he is "fuming".

Let's all quickly run over there and ask him why!

It wouldnt surprise me in the least that they will try to discredit him by feeding him one thing, get him to release whatever it is and then do the complete opposite.

[SydneyRover]

To think a lot of people on here were moaning about Shearer a couple of days ago, we could end up with a lot, lot worse.

How?

Apart from Judan Ali I can't think of anyone else mentioned who'd be worse.

[Athlete]

How?

Apart from Judan Ali I can't think of anyone else mentioned who'd be worse.

lol he could be one we end up with...the club is an absolute sham and has been since we were sold down the river 24 months back

[Clitherover]

How?

Apart from Judan Ali I can't think of anyone else mentioned who'd be worse.

Eric Black?

[BigBar]

I just heard there was a lad at ewood with a dodgy wig called Stephen Keane trying to blag his way into a job???

[Stuart]

I just heard there was a lad at ewood with a dodgy wig called Stephen Keane trying to blag his way into a job???

Ken Estave?

[Majiball]

but does it work? there are not many examples of it working in this country. Yes you employ people who are are good at fitness etc but not sure if a performance/Director of football works that well. It may work if he has absolutely NO input into the football side including who is signed but even then its starts to get difficult if the manager wants one specific thing and the performance director doesnt agree.

Sam and Bolton. Moyes and Everton. Chelsea and Forde. Majority of European clubs have this format. It's all about people being placed in positions their expertise merits. Quite simply look at English football the majority are ex-players, whether fitness or otherwise. They have a degree so know what they are doing. And yet there are massive differences between a 1st class degree from a Loughbourgh and say Bolton Uni. It's ability that should matter, nothing else. And that's before you even start looking at PhD's and then what they do in researcg and so on. Just as there are poor players and good players the same occurs in science. Do I consider an ex-player with say a 2-1 degree to know and understand as much about physical development as say a PhD? No chance, not even close. Just look at the Olympics and what happened there, when everyone works together with experts in each field, best total for 104 years.

It does work just go to europe and see and how are English teams doing in europe these last few years since this has all been adopted there???

How's the national team doing? How many forgeiners play here now?

English football culture in the main is like this 'I played the game so only I can teach the game, I know what it takes to get fit and so on and so on. No-one who hasn't played can know this'. So being a player makes you a good teacher? Playing the game makes you a world class scientist? Playing the game means you know how to develop players? Playing the game means you can spot talent? Playing the game makes you a good motivator/psychologist? Playing the game makes you a good nutritionist?

It's little wonder English football is declining as rapidly as it is, as in Europe they employ on ability not pitch time in the main.

PS in every walk of life people will disagree over the best way forward, from those that work in Tesco's to managers and performance directors. When this happens you discuss things, present your arguement and then the decision is made by the one with the power to do so. Performance director and manager may sit side by side in the tree, but the manager makes the call.

[Amo]

I just heard there was a lad at ewood with a dodgy wig called Stephen Keane trying to blag his way into a job???

Steve N. Cognito, actually.

[LeChuck]

Sam and Bolton. Moyes and Everton. Chelsea and Forde. Majority of European clubs have this format. It's all about people being placed in positions their expertise merits. Quite simply look at English football the majority are ex-players, whether fitness or otherwise. They have a degree so know what they are doing. And yet there are massive differences between a 1st class degree from a Loughbourgh and say Bolton Uni. It's ability that should matter, nothing else. And that's before you even start looking at PhD's and then what they do in researcg and so on. Just as there are poor players and good players the same occurs in science. Do I consider an ex-player with say a 2-1 degree to know and understand as much about physical development as say a PhD? No chance, not even close. Just look at the Olympics and what happened there, when everyone works together with experts in each field, best total for 104 years.

It does work just go to europe and see and how are English teams doing in europe these last few years since this has all been adopted there???

How's the national team doing? How many forgeiners play here now?

English football culture in the main is like this 'I played the game so only I can teach the game, I know what it takes to get fit and so on and so on. No-one who hasn't played can know this'. So being a player makes you a good teacher? Playing the game makes you a world class scientist? Playing the game means you know how to develop players? Playing the game means you can spot talent? Playing the game makes you a good motivator/psychologist? Playing the game makes you a good nutritionist?

It's little wonder English football is declining as rapidly as it is, as in Europe they employ on ability not pitch time in the main.

Not sure that's an entirely fair accusation. Our national team manager didn't make a name for himself as a player. We've recently seen Brendan Rodgers take the Liverpool job and English clubs have had no qualms about hiring the likes of Mourinho and AVB.

If you look at other top footballing nations, many of them still appoint managers based on their playing careers; Klinsmann Germany, Bento Portugal, Dunga Brazil, Maradaona Argentina, Van Basten Holland.

I agree that ability as a player has no bearing on ability as a manager, but I don't think we'll ever escape the "heart over head" decision making that hiring a big name ex-player can bring about.

[Ste B]

Glen Mullan has announced on Twitter that he is "fuming".

Let's all quickly run over there and ask him why!

Its Tombo / West Sussex Rover getting all childish because he's jealous that Glen Mullan gets the scoop from Shebby.

[Mercer]

It wouldnt surprise me in the least that they will try to discredit him by feeding him one thing, get him to release whatever it is and then do the complete opposite.

As I have said recently, Glen needs to bare in mind that he is a mere supporter, nothing more, nothing less and he should have no expectation at all to be privy to key or confidential information.

[Andy]

It wouldnt surprise me in the least that they will try to discredit him by feeding him one thing, get him to release whatever it is and then do the complete opposite.

To be honest, and no disrespect at all to Glen, but why in the world would Singh tell fans what was really going on?

It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

If Singh and the owners have a braincell to rub between them (yeah, I know...) then they'll give people like Glen/fans a standard line (like what has been released) and get on with the serious business of appointing the best man for the job.

I live 2 minutes from Ewood, but at work so not able to check what is happening at the stadium - but doubt that Shearer would be turning up there to meet anybody with regards to the job.

I don't think managerial interviews are ever held at football stadiums for a number of obvious reasons.

How?

Apart from Judan Ali I can't think of anyone else mentioned who'd be worse.

You really seem to have a major problem with Shearer.

Did he kean on your kid's Xmas presents or something?

Shearer is a considerably better option that a lot of names being spouted on here.

Not to mention the respect he would command, the experience he's accumulated from his playing career (which is absolutely relevant to management) and his authoritive style, which is certainly needed with the unfit and lazy lot we currently have in the squad.

[G Somerset Rover]

Its Tombo / West Sussex Rover getting all childish because he's jealous that Glen Mullan gets the scoop from Shebby.

Why on earth did Glen et al want that tool working for them anyway?

[yoda]

To be honest, and no disrespect at all to Glen, but why in the world would Singh tell fans what was really going on?

It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

If Singh and the owners have a braincell to rub between them (yeah, I know...) then they'll give people like Glen/fans a standard line (like what has been released) and get on with the serious business of appointing the best man for the job.

I live 2 minutes from Ewood, but at work so not able to check what is happening at the stadium - but doubt that Shearer would be turning up there to meet anybody with regards to the job.

I don't think managerial interviews are ever held at football stadiums for a number of obvious reasons.

You really seem to have a major problem with Shearer.

Did he kean on your kid's Xmas presents or something?

Shearer is a considerably better option that a lot of names being spouted on here.

Not to mention the respect he would command, the experience he's accumulated from his playing career (which is absolutely relevant to management) and his authoritive style, which is certainly needed with the unfit and lazy lot we currently have in the squad.

Didn't work for the barcodes though did it

[roversR4ever]

Sam and Bolton. Moyes and Everton. Chelsea and Forde. Majority of European clubs have this format. It's all about people being placed in positions their expertise merits. Quite simply look at English football the majority are ex-players, whether fitness or otherwise. They have a degree so know what they are doing. And yet there are massive differences between a 1st class degree from a Loughbourgh and say Bolton Uni. It's ability that should matter, nothing else. And that's before you even start looking at PhD's and then what they do in researcg and so on. Just as there are poor players and good players the same occurs in science. Do I consider an ex-player with say a 2-1 degree to know and understand as much about physical development as say a PhD? No chance, not even close. Just look at the Olympics and what happened there, when everyone works together with experts in each field, best total for 104 years.

It does work just go to europe and see and how are English teams doing in europe these last few years since this has all been adopted there???

How's the national team doing? How many forgeiners play here now?

English football culture in the main is like this 'I played the game so only I can teach the game, I know what it takes to get fit and so on and so on. No-one who hasn't played can know this'. So being a player makes you a good teacher? Playing the game makes you a world class scientist? Playing the game means you know how to develop players? Playing the game means you can spot talent? Playing the game makes you a good motivator/psychologist? Playing the game makes you a good nutritionist?

It's little wonder English football is declining as rapidly as it is, as in Europe they employ on ability not pitch time in the main.

PS in every walk of life people will disagree over the best way forward, from those that work in Tesco's to managers and performance directors. When this happens you discuss things, present your arguement and then the decision is made by the one with the power to do so. Performance director and manager may sit side by side in the tree, but the manager makes the call.

Sam normally brings his own backroom staff, im not saying the use of specialists ie physio, sports sience etc is a bad thing - its obviously the way to go. Hughes uses it, most good managers are increasingly. I am saying its the use of Directors of Football/performance directors i worry about. There often seems to be a conflict between them and managers. Look at Moyes he dictates most things at Everton.

[Andy]

Didn't work for the barcodes though did it

No, it didn't - but look at what he was working with.

Taking over a relegation-bound, demoralised squad for the last 8 games of the season - some of them genuinely tricky ties.

He was on a hiding to nothing and Sir Alex probably wouldn't have kept them up either.

[yoda]

No, it didn't - but look at what he was working with.

Taking over a relegation-bound, demoralised squad for the last 8 games of the season - some of them genuinely tricky ties.

He was on a hiding to nothing and Sir Alex probably wouldn't have kept them up either.

A bit like us then, only difference I can see is we have more games to play with

[roversR4ever]

Hopefully as a club you choose a manager who is open to new innovations. Its the one that arent are most likely to fail. Even Fergie tends to use specialists and look how long hes been around

Managers often have an opinion which sports scientist etc they like to use.

[OJRovers]

I like how Shearer said on MOTD that he'd speak to Rovers, but "things would have to change"

Gives me optimism that he would be strong if we did appoint him.

I still think we need a new Board of Directors as well as a new manager if the running of the club is going to improve.