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[pick32]

Don't see why anyone would want shearer the guys analysis is awful on motd would rather flitcroft than him. My choice Would be Gary Neville didn't like him when he was a player but by far the best pundit

[RevidgeBlue]

Glen Roeder, Steve Mcclaren, Gary Megson or Ian Dowie.

You forgot Stan Ternent and Andy Payton.

[Ewoodbhappy]

Glen Roeder, Steve Mcclaren, Gary Megson or Ian Dowie.

Really?

[the original david brent]

http://en.wikipedia....ascist_politics

Think he also once nazi saluted the lazio fans. I guess his extreme views will probably prevent him from ever having a top managerial post on this country.

...in his autobiography, praised Mussolini as "basically a very principled, ethical individual"

[chaddyrovers]

What about them?

for the rovers manager job.

Barnsley came to Ewood, then out played us and we was lucky to win.

Clough has experience in the Championship and working on a tight budget.

[yoda's brother]

Glen Roeder, Steve Mcclaren, Gary Megson or Ian Dowie.

ha ha nice p1ss take

[RevidgeBlue]

http://en.wikipedia....ascist_politics

...in his autobiography, praised Mussolini as "basically a very principled, ethical individual"

So what? Would he be here to win football matches or engage in political debate?

[roverandout]

alan irvine??? the guy that failed miserably at preston? glen roeder? a dinosaur?

[RevidgeBlue]

alan irvine??? the guy that failed miserably at preston? glen roeder? a dinosaur?

Whoooosh!

(I think)

[Doug]

Whoooosh!

(I think)

I hope so!!

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

for the rovers manager job.

Barnsley came to Ewood, then out played us and we was lucky to win.

Clough has experience in the Championship and working on a tight budget.

Hill did a great job at Rochdale, I know because I live there and have followed his progress as an ex-rover. He had nothing at all to work with yet managed to bring together a very good footballing side, gaining them promotion for only the second time in the history of the club ! Whilst he was there several players were bought cheaply and sold for plenty of dosh.

Grant Holt of Norwich Ricky Lambert of Southampton Le Fondre now at Reading and Craig Dawson at WBA and several more whose names escape me came on through his coaching. Rochdale were promptly relegated as soon as he left. He went on to Barnsley and as far as I can see will be equally successful.

Whilst I do think the Rovers job might have arrived a little to soon for him and there might be better candidates out there we could do a hell of a lot worse,

[roverandout]

ooops my bad, i don't get sarcasm

[AJW]

Paulo Di Canio is not the manager you want when what you want is a period of stability , i just wished John Williams was making the appointment

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Paulo Di Canio is not the manager you want when what you want is a period of stability , i just wished John Williams was making the appointment

Let's not get carried away, he appointed Ince.

[aletheia]

Tyrone Shoelaces

I take your point about "frightening" 25 year old millionaires. But I think there are managers around who maintain a slightly scary distance (O'Neill, Fergie) and thus command respect. They will also be afraid of not playing (at least if they have any self-respect), of being frozen out of not having peers respect. Agree that they have to be inspired too. Ideally, of course both a certain amount of fear and inspiration work as well as tactical nous, organisation and team selection.

[Mercer]

Well, he would have had to be quick, its a good four hour trip from Cardiff and they wouldnt have left until around 6pm so my guess its its untrue!

Not if they met-up outside of Blackburn area ! Don't forget, Shaw in South yesterday for match !

[aletheia]

Runners and riders

All below have pluses and minuses; often depends on who the number 2 is; depends greatly on whether they have to go to Pune, have money to spend and have control over team affairs

Some of these would obviously work as pairs (eg Redknapp with Hill or Robinson)

Better options for manager/ interesting possibilities

Hill (step up?)

Curbishley

Mcarthy

Redknapp (won’t be interested but would inspire?)

Sherwood (inexperienced?)

Poyet

Robinson

Holloway (leave Blackpool?)

Benitez (no chance)

Solskjaer (not daft enough to come here?)

Berg

Salgado (in some capacity)

Hoddle (if he has jettisoned his baggage re Eileen and dealing with lesser players –again with a good number2 –Wilkins?)

Bernd Schuster

Gary Neville

Poorer options for manager or definitely not

Black

Hendry

Murphy

Shearer

Flitcroft

Jansen

Klinsman

Bruce

Roy Keane

Short

Newell

Sutton

Mcleish

Dalglish (time has gone?)

Souness (time has gone?)

Di canio (lots of +ves but serious political baggage)

Glen Roeder,

Steve Mcclaren

Gary Megson

Ian Dowie

Stuart Pearce

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Tyrone Shoelaces

I take your point about "frightening" 25 year old millionaires. But I think there are managers around who maintain a slightly scary distance (O'Neill, Fergie) and thus command respect. They will also be afraid of not playing (at least if they have any self-respect), of being frozen out of not having peers respect. Agree that they have to be inspired too. Ideally, of course both a certain amount of fear and inspiration work as well as tactical nous, organisation and team selection.

You're right about the self respect thing, too many of our players don't seem to have any. The Grella situation was a classic example, and there's been plenty of others. I think discipline and self-respect are in short supply at Rovers, the Hoilett-Nzonzi-Samba cases speak volumes. I'd like a new man who can kick some ass because that's what we desperately need but unfortunately it's not as simple as we would like. Fergie can crack the whip because he's at a successful club everybody wants to play for, thing is they're successful because he's cracked the whip in the past.

[RevidgeBlue]

Hill did a great job at Rochdale, I know because I live there and have followed his progress as an ex-rover. He had nothing at all to work with yet managed to bring together a very good footballing side, gaining them promotion for only the second time in the history of the club ! Whilst he was there several players were bought cheaply and sold for plenty of dosh.

Grant Holt of Norwich Ricky Lambert of Southampton Le Fondre now at Reading and Craig Dawson at WBA and several more whose names escape me came on through his coaching. Rochdale were promptly relegated as soon as he left. He went on to Barnsley and as far as I can see will be equally successful.

Whilst I do think the Rovers job might have arrived a little to soon for him and there might be better candidates out there we could do a hell of a lot worse,

Spirited defence of Hill which makes him sound like Jose Mourinho. However according to Wikipedia his record at Barnsley reads:

P58 W17 D11 L30 Points 62 Win %age 29.31

Not at all impressive and hard to see how they haven't been relegated with stats that like although I readily accept you wouldn't necessarily expect a club like Barnsley to be occupying the automatic promotion slots.

[Mercer]

Sherwood may be the favourite and if so, the £3m 'tag' is Levy trying it on ! Levy is a hard nosed business b @ s t @ r d, and I say that in a complimentary way, in that he drives a feckin hard bargain and there aint anything wrong with that.

As for Flitcroft, Jansen & Short, what the hell is going on ? IMO, that notion has no credibility whatsoever and let's face it, again IMO, Flitcroft isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

I think there are some potential issues with supporters groups and individual influences and Blueboy3333 covered it excellently in an earlier post.

Noted the Shaw / Holloway link earlier. Don't know if anything in it at all. A couple of friends of mine support Blackpool and they are of the opinion that there is a release clause of some description in his contract - I empthasise that this is their opinion only and therefore may or may not be correct. Whatever, he'd certainly do for me.

A quick appointment is essential. All the homework should have already been done as it seems the departure of Kean has been on the agenda for quite some time. There should be a 'hit list' by now with targets 1, 2 & 3, however, it would not surprise me if there wasn't !

[T4E]

http://en.wikipedia....ascist_politics

...in his autobiography, praised Mussolini as "basically a very principled, ethical individual"

A mate of mine is quite close to the Chief Exec of Swindon - apparently Paolo is an absolute nightmare. They keep having to pay off players that he falls out with, which isn't something the club budgets for, and whenever he comes asking for funds they have to give him them because if they don't he goes bananas and causes way too many problems.

That + Venkys? You must be joking.

[patrickvalery]

The thing is the club is on its knees. While i agree that there are no doubt some very astute managers at unfashionable clubs, our situation calls for more than this. We need to find somebody who is proven to be capable with a wealth of experience. But just as important is finding a manager the fans can trust and believe in. Because we need to get as many fans back through the turnstile as possible.

OK the football might be attractive under the likes of Di Canio, but his inexperience would be telling over the season.

All i want at Rovers now is not yet more promise. Another someone with potential. I want to know that the side is being trained all week and managed on a Saturday by a reliable figurehead. We shouldn't be beating Bristol City 5-3. The basis of any good side is being sound defensively and learning when to throw numbers into attack. That isn't to say we should sit and soak up pressure all day, but when you defend well it forces the opposition to loose their shape in frustration. A good coach can teach his players to expose those moments and with our strikers we should pick teams off. There are very few sides who can attack a side from the get-go and take them to pieces. Most solid sides get their noses in front and then wait for the moments to kill the game off. An experienced coach should be able to get this side to do that. Most of the ingredients are there. It just needs somebody to teach the basics and instil some discipline into our game.

[USABlue]

Sherwood just saying it is speculation nothing official yet so he is hardly turning it down.....

My sentiments exactly, he can hardly show to be Kean (pun) on something he has not been offered yet, he's playing it diplomatically correct. I wish it was a clear no

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Spirited defence of Hill which makes him sound like Jose Mourinho. However according to Wikipedia his record at Barnsley reads:

P58 W17 D11 L30 Points 62 Win %age 29.31

Not at all impressive and hard to see how they haven't been relegated with stats that like although I readily accept you wouldn't necessarily expect a club like Barnsley to be occupying the automatic promotion slots.

What Hill did with Rochdale is on the record, it's there for all to see, as my mum used to say- " What can't speak can't lie ". Regarding his time at Barnsley, it's early days yet and along with other managers who have had to change the footballing culture he had a tough time in the beginning. Just like whoever comes to Rovers will have. He'd not be my first choice, I want someone more experienced, but I think he's certainly one for the future.

[RevidgeBlue]

A mate of mine is quite close to the Chief Exec of Swindon - apparently Paolo is an absolute nightmare. They keep having to pay off players that he falls out with, which isn't something the club budgets for, and whenever he comes asking for funds they have to give him them because if they don't he goes bananas and causes way too many problems.

That + Venkys? You must be joking.

It seems to be working though?

I don't suppose Uncle Sam Longson at Derby thought that Brian Clough was at all easy to work for either but that seemed to get results as well.

Not that I am suggesting Di Canio is or will be in Clough's class but the principle is similar.