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[Silencio]

A good Manager out of work, who has been a a world class player, played under some of the best managers, natural leader on the pitch. Won trophies as a Manager and has been about a bit, including international management

http://en.wikipedia....othar_Matthäus

He's a terrible manager and was kicked out f his job within weeks in Brazil as he was on the ###### the whole time. He was a great player, mind...

[Salgado Is A Hero]

I don't agree with either tbh.....each person is different and there's no formula for what constitutes a successful manager.....some great players have gone on to become good managers, some haven't.....same can be said for managers with less successful playing careers.

Also people say McCarthy took Wolves back down but the same could be said for Holloway and Blackpool.

Are we really after Matthaus? Never knew he was managing......track record doesn't look too good, regardless of how good I remember him being on the pitch.

[glen9mullan]

I don't agree with either tbh.....each person is different and there's no formula for what constitutes a successful manager.....some great players have gone on to become good managers, some haven't.....same can be said for managers with less successful playing careers.

Also people say McCarthy took Wolves back down but the same could be said for Holloway and Blackpool.

Are we really after Matthaus? Never knew he was managing......track record doesn't look too good, regardless of how good I remember him being on the pitch.

No we are not after Matthaus, just highlighting there is a big world out there, and the net should be cast everywhere for the right man.

[Steve Moss]

After Curbishley, then the unlikely ones of Redknapp, Holloway etc.....I don't think we should go with either.....I'd prefer managers of lesser teams who would probably be willing to come here, like Keith Hill, Derek McInnes, Simon Grayson, Chris Powell, Dougie Freedman or Karl Robinson.....I can't see Poyet leaving Brighton and Di Canio has too much baggage.

Any manager appointment just like any signing is a gamble but with what's at stake, I'm really not up for someone like Shearer taking charge.

As a preliminary matter, no matter whom we appoint I'll support the man. Anyone is better than Kean and we should all give the new manager some support and breathing room.

And I agree with you about Shearer. He's a huge gamble. Though perhaps the risk will be mitigated if Newell and Dowie are brought in with him.

As to the others, in my opinion we need a manager with a track record (100 or more games) at a high level of play (Championship, Premier League or equivalent) who consisently delivers results (40% or more win ratio). We have to get up on the first try which means we need a consistent winner despite a high level of competent competition.

If Venkys are focused on going up the first time, talk of Shearer, Sherwood, Hill, etc. will be shelved. They should either go with a "big" name (such as Benitez, Redknapp) or go with a solid reliable performer (Curbishley or McCarthy). After promotion they can re-evaluate.

[Black Burn]

Harry Rednapp isn't interested, someone mentioned that before.

I'm all for Alan Shearer, though, particularly if he has Newell and Dowie in with him. People often use the Kidd/Ince examples, but Paul Ince did have experience. He was great at MK Dons, but he just didn't make the cut in the Premier League. That doesn't mean he was inexperienced.

Additionally, a former player turned manager who was successful......has everyone forgotten how Mark Hughes used to play for us and became the second best modern manager after Kenny Daglish? Now I'm not suggesting Alan Shearer will be a success, but I would rather have him than Mick McCarthy......who brings us up before going down. Um.......last season, before he was sacked Wolverhampton was last. Appointing Trevor just sealed the nail in their coffin. I don't think they would have stayed up even if McCarthy remained, they were dead last and below even us. And that was right after we spent several weeks at the bottom - so they had to be really bad for us to overtake them (though we did go on a rich vein of form after beating Manchester United).

[patrickvalery]

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_{I dunno if this has already been posted or not. It mentions a couple of names said to have applied for the job. Albert Ferrer (ex Chelsea and Barcelona) and silvio Baldini. Baldini sounds bloody awful. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvio_Baldini}

_{Keith Hill looks like Bill Shankly in comparison.}

[SydneyRover]

Harry Rednapp isn't interested, someone mentioned that before.

I'm all for Alan Shearer, though, particularly if he has Newell and Dowie in with him. People often use the Kidd/Ince examples, but Paul Ince did have experience. He was great at MK Dons, but he just didn't make the cut in the Premier League. That doesn't mean he was inexperienced.

Additionally, a former player turned manager who was successful......has everyone forgotten how Mark Hughes used to play for us and became the second best modern manager after Kenny Daglish? Now I'm not suggesting Alan Shearer will be a success, but I would rather have him than Mick McCarthy......who brings us up before going down. Um.......last season, before he was sacked Wolverhampton was last. Appointing Trevor just sealed the nail in their coffin. I don't think they would have stayed up even if McCarthy remained, they were dead last and below even us. And that was right after we spent several weeks at the bottom - so they had to be really bad for us to overtake them (though we did go on a rich vein of form after beating Manchester United).

So wait, your reasons for appointing Shearer are basically that Mark Hughes was an ex player and became a success, so Shearer might be a success too. Well then, how about Chris Sutton as manager? Simon Garner? David Batty? Lucas Neill? The possibilities are endless!

Alan Shearer's only venture at management ended in abject failure at Newcastle. Five points from eight games. Had he even got one more point they would have stayed up, so it's fair to say he was actually the man that took them down, especially as his points per game was the worst of the lot. Since then he has done very little except be a pundit on Match of the Day, not really showing any great insight into the game.

You are totally wrong about McCarthy. When he was sacked, Wolves were 18th, level on 21 points from 25 games with ourselves and QPR in 17th and 16th respectively and so had a real chance of staying up. After he was sacked, Wolves picked up just 4 points from another 13 games. He managed Ireland and in the 2002 World Cup came within a shoot out of beating Spain and qualifying for the quarter finals. He's won the division we are in TWICE. He also kept Wolves in the PL for two seasons after that before being sacked despite being level on points with 16th place.

McCarthy doesn't exactly have a glittering career but how you can choose Shearer whose only management experience involved relegating Newcastle over a man who has won the league we are in twice and even done well at a World Cup makes no sense.

[SAS]

Would Keith Hill come considering he felt we are almost cheating with parachute payments?

[Black Burn]

So wait, your reasons for appointing Shearer are basically that Mark Hughes was an ex player and became a success, so Shearer might be a success too. Well then, how about Chris Sutton as manager? Simon Garner? David Batty? Lucas Neill? The possibilities are endless!

Alan Shearer's only venture at management ended in abject failure at Newcastle. Five points from eight games. Had he even got one more point they would have stayed up, so it's fair to say he was actually the man that took them down, especially as his points per game was the worst of the lot. Since then he has done very little except be a pundit on Match of the Day, not really showing any great insight into the game.

You are totally wrong about McCarthy. When he was sacked, Wolves were 18th, level on 21 points from 25 games with ourselves and QPR in 17th and 16th respectively and so had a real chance of staying up. After he was sacked, Wolves picked up just 4 points from another 13 games. He managed Ireland and in the 2002 World Cup came within a shoot out of beating Spain and qualifying for the quarter finals. He's won the division we are in TWICE. He also kept Wolves in the PL for two seasons after that before being sacked despite being level on points with 16th place.

McCarthy doesn't exactly have a glittering career but how you can choose Shearer whose only management experience involved relegating Newcastle over a man who has won the league we are in twice and even done well at a World Cup makes no sense.

Um...no, I'm not in for Alan Shearer because of Mark Hughes. I just find it weird that people go around saying stuff like "we can't have Shearer because of Ince/Kidd/etc" but forgot about the flip side of the coin - Mark Hughes. I also agree that after his disatrous reign at Newcastle, Shearer would probably not be a good choice.

The only reason why I would want him is because as a legend he'll probably motivate the fans and players and bring about a sense of unity that was so dreadfully missing ever since Steve Kean took over. That is my only reason. I only mentioned the other factors because I felt that everyone was being unfair and unbalanced. If you're going to slate Shearer because of his 8 games at Newcastle, then do so. Don't bring up the Ince/Kidd/etc examples and use that to justify the "inexperienced managers definitely won't work" because we have cases such as Mark Hughes, etc.

As for McCarthy, I'm scarred by the fact that his Sunderland amassed a total of 18 points in their first season back in the Premiership and got relegated straight away. Plus having him isn't much of an improvement over Kean if we're going to spend our next few seasons fighting against relegation. Sorry for getting the stuff wrong, but I thought Wolves were last. Must have forgotten about Wigan and Bolton who were below them then. In any case, is that what you want? Promotion back to the Premier League only to see us back in the relegation battle (or worse, relegated)? The Wolves fans were absolutely rioting against him before he was finally sacked - I forsee the same thing happening with us, particularly our history with Steve Kean, we're prone to just blow up on any manager who falls flat.

On the other hand, even if Alan Shearer flops, I don't see him receiving as much hate and vitroil as Kean from us or McCarthy from the Wolves fans.

[chaddyrovers]

just seen on twitter that Kevin keegan is taken the managers job??? any truth to this

[patrickvalery]

just seen on twitter that Kevin keegan is taken the managers job??? any truth to this

I hope not. He is about the only manager who could have a more catestrophic effect on our back four than Kean did.

And he might bring Lawro with him!!!!

[chaddyrovers]

just listening to radio lancs atm, and jason lowe wants eric black to take over as manager perm.

[miqaayil]

just seen on twitter that Kevin keegan is taken the managers job??? any truth to this

who twitted ? thats gonna be scarry ...

[adsfortheblues]

just listening to radio lancs atm, and jason lowe wants eric black to take over as manager perm.

He would, cause that's only way he will get in the team, because he's an awful player.

[SydneyRover]

Um...no, I'm not in for Alan Shearer because of Mark Hughes. I just find it weird that people go around saying stuff like "we can't have Shearer because of Ince/Kidd/etc" but forgot about the flip side of the coin - Mark Hughes. I also agree that after his disatrous reign at Newcastle, Shearer would probably not be a good choice.

The only reason why I would want him is because as a legend he'll probably motivate the fans and players and bring about a sense of unity that was so dreadfully missing ever since Steve Kean took over. That is my only reason. I only mentioned the other factors because I felt that everyone was being unfair and unbalanced. If you're going to slate Shearer because of his 8 games at Newcastle, then do so. Don't bring up the Ince/Kidd/etc examples and use that to justify the "inexperienced managers definitely won't work" because we have cases such as Mark Hughes, etc.

As for McCarthy, I'm scarred by the fact that his Sunderland amassed a total of 18 points in their first season back in the Premiership and got relegated straight away. Plus having him isn't much of an improvement over Kean if we're going to spend our next few seasons fighting against relegation. Sorry for getting the stuff wrong, but I thought Wolves were last. Must have forgotten about Wigan and Bolton who were below them then. In any case, is that what you want? Promotion back to the Premier League only to see us back in the relegation battle (or worse, relegated)? The Wolves fans were absolutely rioting against him before he was finally sacked - I forsee the same thing happening with us, particularly our history with Steve Kean, we're prone to just blow up on any manager who falls flat.

On the other hand, even if Alan Shearer flops, I don't see him receiving as much hate and vitroil as Kean from us or McCarthy from the Wolves fans.

Don't compare Hughes' inexperience to Kidd's or Ince's let alone Shearer's. Mark Hughes proved himself by some remarkable results in charge of Wales before coming to us. Mark Hughes cut his teeth managing against some of the top international sides in the world for five years. He beat Italy and Germany, outsmarting two of the best international managers going and also got good results against the likes of the Czechs and Argentina. John Williams would never have appointed him merely on the strength that he'd played for us and shown some real heart and tenacity whilst doing so. Neither Kidd or Ince had proved themselves as managers and developed their skills in this way.

I would argue that Shearer wouldn't even be comparable to Kidd or Ince. He'd be an even worse appointment on paper as at least Kidd and Ince had some form of success in their roles. Shearer has failed in his only stint as a coach so far.

So it's completely fair to see Hughes as a totally different case to Shearer. Hughes might have been inexperienced as a club manager but had five years experience as a national team manager regularly coming up with results against top teams.

Did 'giving the place a lift' work for Shearer at Newcastle? How about when Newcastle brought back Keegan? How about when Liverpool brought back Kenny Dalglish? They didn't work because fundamentally they weren't up to scratch managerially; Dalglish and Keegan had been great managers before but had been out of the game for ten years. Similarly Ewood would get an early lift but Shearer likely wouldn't be up to scratch managerially and things would turn bad.

You have to realise the club is different now and has been shaken to its core. When Sam was sacked we were a stable top ten club. To get back into that position would be very difficult. Right now I'd take promotion to the Premier League from just about anyone. After that, the first aim of the manager has to keep his side in the league. So McCarthy on his last attempt kept Wolves in the league for two seasons and had a real chance of doing so for a third before he was sacked. Shearer relegated Newcastle at his only attempt. It's also fair to say that if we went up this season, the team we'd have would probably be better than any team McCarthy had taken up before.

So in summary, McCarthy: Decent international experience, 2 x Championship titles, has kept teams in the Premier League before...vs Shearer: Only experience was relegating Newcastle.

Still baffles me why people would choose Shearer here.

[DE.]

just listening to radio lancs atm, and jason lowe wants eric black to take over as manager perm.

Aye, I'm sure he does... if a real manager comes in he'll be out on his arse in the reserves pretty sharpish.

[laughatthedingles]

Is there a way of doing a poll in which everyone puts their top 10 in order, with number 1 getting for example 10 points and 10 getting 1. That way we can see everyone people would accept and also their favourites.

[TBTF]

Redknapp, Dalglish and Benitez are all unemployed - so no compensation is needed.

But will hardly come CHEAP!!

[TBTF]

Rovers need to do the right thing here, take their time, explore all avenues and get the best man for the job. This club has been on the road to ruin for the last 2 years and now its a long road back. We need an experienced Manager, no sentimental choices, no one looking for their first big break, no-one who has never managed before, and no-one with less than a few hundred games under their belts. The next appointment will define Blackburns Long term future and after Ince/Kean/Kidd we can ill afford another inexperienced Manager. Scout the globe, find someone who has the appetite, can speak many languages. Who can adapt their style of play around any squad of players. If its a manager who just plays long ball, then thats no good as we dont have the players in our squad to adapt to that style of play anymore. We need someone who has a Plan A Plan B, Plan C and so on. Supporters were liberated this weekend from one bad manager, lets not make the mistake of appointing another. Top Players don't always make good Managers, in fact many of the games top Managers in the past have been average players or bad players but great Managers.

Jesus Christ Glen!! How long is the list that meets those criteria??? We are Blackburn Rovers not AC Milan!!.Recognising and understanding what this Club is all about is what will matter most because the owners bloody well don't.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

If Shearer came with Dowie and Newell then I wouldn't have a problem. I doubt we could attract many respectable managers given how Venky's have been operating over the last 2 years, but at least the likes of Newell and Dowie would know what they're doing. I'd like us to go for Holloway personally but if the guy has any sense he'd stay where he is.

[broadsword]

Please not Shearer. I've never been convinced of his tactical nous, he messed Cardiff around about the manager's job, it would all end in tears. He would be appointed solely to get the fans back, and not because he is the surest bet to get the club promoted again.

I worry that the owners are just thinking of a Hollywood name, I'm far from convinced they will get this crucial decision right.

I think Paolo di Canio would be a better bet than Shearer, if you're going to make a left field gamble.

[philipl]

A clarification- the Rhodes transfer deal is £8m guarranteed spread over 4 years.

[Mercer]

just listening to radio lancs atm, and jason lowe wants eric black to take over as manager perm.

Jason Lowe is struggling , IMO, to move on as a player. He knows that anyone who hasn't been 'brain washed' by Kean will see that !

[alexanders]

Hoping for someone with passion. That is what we need now.

[Mercer]

Hello everyone,

First post under this username, used to be a regular on here under a different one though.

Welcome back Doc !

You've been missed !