[Archived] Jimmy Saville

[thenodrog]

Dave Lee Travis arrested for questioning now! It appears to me that there is a connection forming.......... all of them thought they were funny when actually none of them were at all funny in the slightest.

So hopefully we can expect an early morning knock on Lenny Henry's door soon.

Close.... Stuart Hall! My theory is definitely gaining plausibility.

[Baz]

Is it just me, but it doesnt sit well that people are being branded paedo's / rapists etc without a trial.

Who has publicised that Stuart Hall is being questioned about a 'historical' rape incident, when no charge has been raised let alone a trial or conviction. To me serious things like this that could ruin someones life, with no justification, should not be publicised until after conviction.

[Stuart]

Is it just me, but it doesnt sit well that people are being branded paedo's / rapists etc without a trial.

Who has publicised that Stuart Hall is being questioned about a 'historical' rape incident, when no charge has been raised let alone a trial or conviction. To me serious things like this that could ruin someones life, with no justification, should not be publicised until after conviction.

And yet a 15 year old who is proven to have mugged some poor old lady, cannot be named "for legal reasons"...

[adopted scouser]

Stuart Hall my hero, can't believe this

[thenodrog]

Is it just me, but it doesnt sit well that people are being branded paedo's / rapists etc without a trial.

Who has publicised that Stuart Hall is being questioned about a 'historical' rape incident, when no charge has been raised let alone a trial or conviction. To me serious things like this that could ruin someones life, with no justification, should not be publicised until after conviction.

Indeed. Until allegationsare proven it does open a can of worms.

Off the top of my head tTwo famous names whose reputations have been indellibly tarnished by false allegations are Dave Jones and Craig Charles.

[Nate]

It seems like anybody can make an allegation at the moment. I've never been subject to abuse, but why are they all coming out the woodwork now?

[ABBEY]

Stuart Hall my hero, can't believe this

Will he play his joker?

[bellamy11]

Indeed. Until allegationsare proven it does open a can of worms.

Off the top of my head tTwo famous names whose reputations have been indellibly tarnished by false allegations are Dave Jones and Craig Charles.

Matthew Kelly too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0Vxi1qo9yA

Remember seeing this at the time and thinking it was compulsive viewing. Sound quality is rubbish but you can just about make out the conversation.

[thenodrog]

Max Clifford now.

It's quite amazing how virtually everybody being 'questioned' about sex crimes are individuals who I instinctively could never take to.

[T.J.Newton]

'Max Clifford' he really is a vile piece of younowhat regardless.

[Adam C]

Max Clifford now.

It's quite amazing how virtually everybody being 'questioned' about sex crimes are individuals who I instinctively could never take to.

A lot of these guys are oddballs that nobody could take to. Makes them ideal targets for anyone with an axe to grind or a desire for publicity. Obviously we don't know what exactly went on but have any of them been found guilty?

[Sparky Marky]

There's probably been a few orgies over the years and there's money to be made nowadays. I would be amazed if all these guys are rapists etc...

[Amo]

The video Max Clifford didn't want you to see:

http://vimeo.com/49021336

[thenodrog]

Dave Lee Travis arrested for questioning now! It appears to me that there is a connection forming.......... all of them thought they were funny when actually none of them were at all funny in the slightest.

Common knowledge for years that Fred Talbot is a fag but I should have guessed he might be implicated in under age stuff cos he is another who thinks he is hilarious and patently isn't. Sexuality doesn't seem to matter too much Glitter, Saville, Starr, DLT, Fred Talbot all implicated in dodgy stuff with minors and all as funny as a toothache.

I wonder who pushed all these talentless individuals to the top? And more pertinantly WHY?

[Amo]

Terrible thing to be tarnished with, though, if it turns out you're squeaky clean. Mud like that always sticks.

[thenodrog]

Terrible thing to be tarnished with, though, if it turns out you're squeaky clean. Mud like that always sticks.

Indeed it does. ...... But it also depends what you mean by 'squeaky clean'. Only my opinion but I doubt any of them are truly 'squeaky clean.'

[adopted scouser]

and all as funny as a toothache.

If being unfunny is a factor then Dawn French's Ex must be on the wanted list

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Fred Talbot is now being investigated for similar but unrelated allegations.

I used to do work for a travel agency in Hale who still book his holidays for him. Despite his very "fun" appearance on that silly weather map thing he used to do (or still does), he's a complete arsehole. Apparently.

That doesn't come as a surprise.

[Stuart]

There's something disturbing about all this trial by media stuff.

As Topman says as soon as someone is mentioned in the same breathe as Savile, their character is immediately called in to question.

All it takes in the current climate is for someone who didn't like a particular 'celebrity' (e.g. they thought he was an arsehole) and they can destroy a career.

Anyone found to have made an unsubstantiated claim should have the book thrown at them.

Has there been a single posthumous conviction against Savile yet, btw? Yet he's already 'guilty'.

[thenodrog]

Stuart Hall my hero, can't believe this

Will he play his joker?

Didn't work did it? Now he needs a 'get out of gaol' card.

Rather lenient sentence imo. Don't want to start a witch hunt against an old fella with one foot in the grave but ..... 9 years old ffs! No excuse for that under any circumstances.

If this doesn't kill him .. and it might well ..... I imagine he'll be out by Christmas.

[Paul]

Apparently he had to be sentenced according to the tariff in place at the time of his crimes. Interesting concept that which I had no idea of till yesterday. I can see a certain logic but didn't know it was regularly applied.

[Steve Kean's Hypnotoad]

Seems to me that the only time someone gets a proper sentence in this country is when the crime was against a rich person or the police.

[thenodrog]

Dave Lee Travis arrested for questioning now! It appears to me that there is a connection forming.......... all of them thought they were funny when actually none of them were at all funny in the slightest.

DLT to be charged now under Operation Yew Tree. Anybody else think 9 months seems a long time from arresting to charging?

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/08/15/dave-lee-travis-charged-indecent-assault-sexual-assault_n_3761738.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cuk-ws-bb%7Cdl5%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D201841

btw I wonder how blurred the edges are around the definition of indecent assault in the 70's? I never assaulted anyone for sure but most of my intentions were 'indecent' around those rather liberated times I must say. And frequently one had only to ask nicely.....

Any other baby boomers shifting a little uncomfortably in their seat right now?

[Blue n White Rover]

[jim mk2]

Which is more evil ?