[Archived] Next Manager Part 2

[USABlue]

I think you would find Mrs. Shearer has more idea than Black.

Perfect, with our current regime the missus is the most important part of the equation.

[47er]

He is a man supporters would get behind though isn't he? Would give the club a tremendous lift at least initially.

Results would then determine the outcome but he would unite the fans and he would stand up to the owners and Shebby. And he would walk if promises were not kept. Its not like he needs the cash as Kean did.

Prepared to give him a chance and I bet most supporters are, if not all. As others say, his choice of No 2 is vital and will tell us a lot. Hopefully bye-bye Black and Hendry.

Wouldn't have been my choice and he is inexperienced but it could be worse!

[RoverInverness]

I am trying to see the positives in all this.

Shearer - well he doesn't appear to be the sharpest tool in the box - and he's a terrible pundit - but he does have passion, commitment, determination and, I guess, will have some level of immediate respect from most players due to his playing days.

I was trying hard to think of any successful manager who also appeared not to be a big thinker. Anyone who had not managed or coached at any level prior to appointment or had taken a long break from the game but had returned and achieved on spirit alone. All I could come up with was Keegan in his first spell at Newcastle.

I would take that of course - but it remains to be seen if Shearer's force of personality could match Keegan's. He does have a seemingly justified reputation for being - all in all - a little bit dull.

[Wendal]

I believe John Williams offered Shearer the job before Ince, so even the great JW did see something in him...

[RoverInverness]

I believe John Williams offered Shearer the job before Ince, so even the great JW did see something in him...

Well why no then but yes now? That just does not make any sense!

[steverovers]

Well why no then but yes now? That just does not make any sense!

Obviously felt he wasn't ready

[Blackburn Ravers]

,,,

[yoda]

I think you would find Mrs. Shearer has more idea than Black.

do you mean Gabby?

[bluebruce]

Simon Grayson would be my preferred choice. I find it a bit frustrating he hasn't been linked.

[Philly13]

Perfect, with our current regime the missus is the most important part of the equation.

Haha brilliant.

[Black Burn]

Oh god no we are well and truly screwed. I just don't see it being a success, being a big time player does not mean success as a manager. Motivating players is a lot more than just having a glorious past to carry round with you. Maybe just maybe it works with Dowie and Newell at his side but I have reservations. A truly botched up job just as each and everyone of us suspected.

I think you are one of the few who "suspected" a truly botched up job, seeing as the majority here are relatively pleased that Shearer's appointment is imminent. Then again, there will always be dissenters no matter who gets appointed. If Holloway gets the gig, you'll have people whining about defensive problems and his record at Leicester City and other clubs before Blackpool. If Sherwood gets appointed, it'll be his lack of experience. If Schuster is the man, it'll be no English experience. Robinson, Grayson, Hill, Filtcroft or McKinley, again either lack of experience or too low-level. McCarthy may be the ideal choice for some, but for others his 19-point disaster with Sunderland continues to resound soundly in their heads. Judan Ali......needless to say, almost everyone wouldn't accept him. Coyle - his stint at Burnley, plus his association with the Dingles will rule him out for many. Only Ole Gunnar Solskear will be good, but there will be people complaining about his lack of experience in English football, much like Schuster, Rad Antic and Hietrmann. Di Canio, some people will take issue with his supposed insanity and allegiance to fascism.

Personally, I'll be happy with Alan Shearer. I've been keeping tabs on him for as long as I remember - I still remember him playing for Newcastle 10 years ago and scoring them up to third place. Don't know why, but I kind of tracked his progress after I learned how he was a legend for Blackburn Rovers (pity I was a kid without awareness of the Premiership when Rovers won the title). Felt sad for him when he failed to prevent Newcastle's slide down to relegation, but I hope with a strong backroom he'll be able to galvanize our team to promotion. Of course I'm not deluded enough to think he'll succeed at Rovers, but a small part of me hopes he will.

[Paul]

BTW I am not saying this is deffo happening, just something a few people are telling me way. Not able to verify it at present. I would be very surprised if it is him, I just can't Shearer wanting to work with Shebby/Venky's.

Shearer is one of my all time hero's, he would get the fans behind him but not sure if he is the "right" man. As i've said previously for the Championship we need someone experienced and that McCarthy would be the ideal choice.

If this proves to be true it places the club in an even more ridiculous position. We are currently being "managed" by a TV pundit with a playing career of no note at all and without any experience of running a football club. Don't forget this is the man who admitted to not being interested in the finances.

Now it is suggested the team manager should be a TV pundit with no experience of managing / coaching a team. Shearer has a glorious career behind him but being a great striker does not make you a manager.

Add to this Shearer still enjoys a fabulous, golden boy reputation from his career with his Newcastle "management" spell safely tucked away at the back of the cupboard. Why on earth get up from that comfy Saturday night sofa?

If Shearer is appointed it will be for all the wrong reasons and will do nothing to reunite this fan with the club. Ridiculous.

We need a manager, not a media pundit. Who will actually manage the team?

[Speedie Dived]

This club is eternally in debt to Big Al, for what he did on and off the pitch. Booth makes the best point, it's dreamland stuff if Shearer works out.

If you came home and found Shearer giving the mrs one, you would have to apologise for not having fresh bed sheets on.

[Black Burn]

Now it is suggested the team manager should be a TV pundit with no experience of managing / coaching a team. Shearer has a glorious career behind him but being a great striker does not make you a manager.

Add to this Shearer still enjoys a fabulous, golden boy reputation from his career with his Newcastle management spell safely tucked away at the back of the cupboard. Why on earth get up from that comfy Saturday night sofa?

You're contradicting yourself, mate.

[SydneyRover]

This club is eternally in debt to Big Al, for what he did on and off the pitch. Booth makes the best point, it's dreamland stuff if Shearer works out.

If you came home and found Shearer giving the mrs one, you would have to apologise for not having fresh bed sheets on.

The club is in debt to Shearer so we should trust him, a man whose only experience in management is to have got 5 points from 8 games and relegated Newcastle, with the most important job appointment in the clubs history??!!

Jesus wept.

Blackburn Rovers Football Club is f--ed if Shearer gets the gig. This I am sure of.

Assuming it is Shearer, this is why his number 2 will be so important. I think Dowie will excel as Shearer's number 2. You wouldn't mess with either Shearer or Dowie !

Sorry Mercer but the most important thing our club needs is someone who can manage a football team and get the tactics right.

If we wanted someone you wouldn't mess with, we'd get Vinnie Jones out of LA and into Lancashire.

[Speedie Dived]

The club is in debt to Shearer so we should trust him, a man whose only experience in management is to have got 5 points from 8 games and relegated Newcastle, with the most important job appointment in the clubs history??!!

Jesus wept.

Blackburn Rovers Football Club is f--ed if Shearer gets the gig. This I am sure of.

I cannot understand how one fan of this club can have such a low opinion of Shearer.

[SydneyRover]

We took Hughes as a novice and it worked, others haven't but i'd be willing to take the risk.

No. Five years in charge of Wales does not make you a novice. Beating some of the best international teams in the world (eg Italy and Germany) and holding the likes of Argentina and the Czech Republic to draws does not make you a novice.

All this argument that "Hughes was a novice and look what happened" doesn't stand up one bit.

I cannot understand how one fan of this club can have such a low opinion of Shearer.

Christ, I think he was an amazing player.

But he's a terrible pundit and has absolutely no pedigree as a manager.

I cannot understand how someone can not separate someone being an amazing player and someone's management abilities.

[Speedie Dived]

No. Five years in charge of Wales does not make you a novice. Beating some of the best international teams in the world (eg Italy and Germany) and holding the likes of Argentina and the Czech Republic to draws does not make you a novice.

All this argument that "Hughes was a novice and look what happened" doesn't stand up one bit.

Christ, I think he was an amazing player.

But he's a terrible pundit and has absolutely no pedigree as a manager.

I cannot understand how someone can not separate someone being an amazing player and someone's management abilities.

The pundit thing is laughable, It has zero bearing on being a manager. I presume you read the comments about the teams Shearer managed against whilst at Newcastle?

You cant judge anyone on 8 games, it's common sense really.

[chaddyrovers]

Have mager doubts if true. He will get walked over by our squad. Shocking lack of Desire and any spirit. Surely kean 2 we need experience.

If this proves to be true it places the club in an even more ridiculous position. We are currently being "managed" by a TV pundit with a playing career of no note at all and without any experience of running a football club. Don't forget this is the man who admitted to not being interested in the finances.

Now it is suggested the team manager should be a TV pundit with no experience of managing / coaching a team. Shearer has a glorious career behind him but being a great striker does not make you a manager.

Add to this Shearer still enjoys a fabulous, golden boy reputation from his career with his Newcastle "management" spell safely tucked away at the back of the cupboard. Why on earth get up from that comfy Saturday night sofa?

If Shearer is appointed it will be for all the wrong reasons and will do nothing to reunite this fan with the club. Ridiculous.

We need a manager, not a media pundit. Who will actually manage the team?

Shearer wouldnt get walk over. He would install Discipline, professionalism and commitment which our squad lack. He would bring in 2 former managers in Dowie and Newell who are the same way.

[Paul]

You're contradicting yourself, mate.

Eight games, five points is not managerial experience!!

[chaddyrovers]

Eight games, five points is not managerial experience!!

when experience did Roy Keane when he came in to Sunderland after 5 games? NONE

and thats at what Keane did at Sunderland who were bottom of the league and by the end of the season they win the league and went up to the premiership!

[SydneyRover]

The pundit thing is laughable, It has zero bearing on being a manager. I presume you read the comments about the teams Shearer managed against whilst at Newcastle?

You cant judge anyone on 8 games, it's common sense really.

Actually yes, I would say if someone is paid millions of pounds a year to be a football pundit on Match of the Day and they can't even come up with any remotely incisive points on tactics etc, I would say it is a worrying omen to being a manager. Compare him with say Gary Neville who seems to really know his tactics and can give an intelligent analysis of games and the difference is like night and day. As a manager that sort of analysis of the way your team and other teams are playing is one of the most crucial parts of your job.

That's not to say it's the be all and end all and Neville's aptitude at being a pundit means he'll make a great manager, but I think it does reflect how good he is at quite an important part of the job. Unless he's just being lazy and collecting his paycheque of course.

And that comment still doesnt mount all that great a defence of his record, he played some top teams but also quite a few teams in mid table with little to play for - often at the end of the season relegation threatened teams get all sorts of wins against teams above them.

But anyway, all that aside, even if he had never been a pundit and never managed Newcastle, and had just played golf since leaving Rovers...fact of the matter is we are appointing a total novice! How is the fact he was a brilliant striker for us seventeen years ago going to impact on that?

Shearer wouldnt get walk over. He would install Discipline, professionalism and commitment which our squad lack.

Yeah chaddy, that's what people said about Paul Ince.

Fact is he was found tactically and technically inept.

I find it worrying that after repeatedly getting our fingers burnt with inexperienced managers in recent history, some of our fans are still delighted to see us do the same again.

[Paul]

when experience did Roy Keane when he came in to Sunderland after 5 games? NONE

and thats at what Keane did at Sunderland who were bottom of the league and by the end of the season they win the league and went up to the premiership!

Keane signed six players on the final day of the transfer window and five more in Jamuary. He bought a new team. No problem with that. Alex Ferguson remarked on Keane:

"Young managers come along and people say this one will be England manager or boss of this club, but two years later they're not there. It's not an easy environment to come into, I wouldn't forecast anything."

I have no problem with Shearer, he's the best I've seen at Ewood but I don't believe he is the man for us. Football fans judgement is often clouded by money and hero status. There is nothing to suggest Shearer can win us promotion.

[Speedie Dived]

Actually yes, I would say if someone is paid millions of pounds a year to be a football pundit on Match of the Day and they can't even come up with any remotely incisive points on tactics etc, I would say it is a worrying omen to being a manager. Compare him with say Gary Neville who seems to really know his tactics and can give an intelligent analysis of games and the difference is like night and day. As a manager that sort of analysis of the way your team and other teams are playing is one of the most crucial parts of your job.

That's not to say it's the be all and end all and Neville's aptitude at being a pundit means he'll make a great manager, but I think it does reflect how good he is at quite an important part of the job. Unless he's just being lazy and collecting his paycheque of course.

And that comment still doesnt mount all that great a defence of his record, he played some top teams but also quite a few teams in mid table with little to play for - often at the end of the season relegation threatened teams get all sorts of wins against teams above them.

But anyway, all that aside, even if he had never been a pundit and never managed Newcastle, and had just played golf since leaving Rovers...fact of the matter is we are appointing a total novice! How is the fact he was a brilliant striker for us seventeen years ago going to impact on that?

I don't really think pundits do their own research now, and whenever I see him on telly I don't consider him to be worse or better than anyone else.

He is a novice , 100 percent, but I am not saying he is guaranteed to be a success. You are stating that he won't be. All I am questioning is why a fan would not want to support him?

[chaddyrovers]

Mark Hughes was a manager who install those 3 things I said, whlist Mark Bowen and Eddie Niedzwiecki did the training and set the tactics along with Hughes.

so why cant Shearer, Dowie and Newell do the same??????