[Archived] Next Manager Part 2

[Mike E]

As I was 4 at the time we won the league, the notion of Shearer as manager holds no water with me whatsoever. Club legend? Yes. But I can only remember his playing days at Newcastle and his kean poor managerial spell there. To me, suggesting Shearer be our manager is like suggesting McKinlay. Just not uplifting in any way. Hell, for 'romance' I'd rather have Flitcroft and Jansen (who have actually been manager and coach at clubs for a couple of years, rather than 8 games).

That being said, I don't want them either. We need a sensible pair of hands and the likes of Holloway, McCarthy offer that. OGS would be a fair target imo too. I just hope that the Ollie rumours are true, but I'm used to disappointment since Venkys came here.

Roll on some randomer called McKinlay.

[SydneyRover]

I do understand your points but yours are as flawed as those who want Shearer. Who's to say that McCarthy would get us promoted? I know he has an impressive record in the Championship but nothing is guaranteed. If he loses games, then what? Every single option is a risk. Some risks are more calculated than others (ie the risk is lower) but nothing is certain, most certainly when it comes to football.

If Shearer is appointed everyone should get behind the team and save any grudges for if ACTUALLY goes tits up (and remember that's an IF). People on here are quick to write off anyone without giving them a chance. I am not saying support the likes of Judan Ali or McKinley as these are nonsensical, but appointing someone like Shearer, whilst not everyone's desired option, does have a certain allure to it and due to him having the right qualifications (coaching standards) and having the backing of quality backroom staff and media we should 100% give him a chance.

I know we are all the most cynical fans but we need to be realistic here. It isn't guaranteed that we will get a perfect manager and it isn't guaranteed an experienced manager would do well. If Shearer gets appointed and you boycott due to it not being a manager you'd have wanted then you need to take a long, hard look in the mirror and consider slipping on claret and blue instead.

I just wish everyone would give up bickering, we give the manager a chance and if it goes well then hurray we can all be happy. If it goes wrong then we can start moaning.

Yeah but the every option is a risk option makes no sense, why go for a much bigger risk when you can have someone who will carry a much smaller risk of failure?

Who would be the quality backroom staff?! Newell? A man who has never assistant managed and failed as manager at two of the three clubs he's been at? Dowie?

I never said fans should boycott it, and I fully agree that if he gets in the fans should give their full vocal support at least for a while initially. But all this "get behind the new manager" thing as a means to silence very valid doubts about hiring Shearer as manager is utter nonsense, posting this on a forum would not be incompatible with what I said, even if I was still in a position to attend Ewood.

You say McKinlay would be a ridiculous choice and I would agree, but what exactly lifts Shearer above him?

[BRFC95]

Call me racist but do we want another Scotch man in charge

I see him as more a 'pint of bitter' man

[Lie_still_Rover]

There was a time when Ferguson, Wenger, Benitez, Hodgson, Dalglish, Hughes ... Every single manager infant! Would have been inexperienced. You gain experience by managing. There doesn't seem to be a correlation between playing at the highest level and success. You are either good or you aren't. We can't attract Fergie or Wenger, so why not try and find an emerging talent rather than established average one?

Its evolution.

[Mercer]

As I posted earlier, I have no idea who the new man is, only that he should be here by Wednesday. Shearer is just what some people have been saying but not been able to verify that.

The truth is that outside of a very close group of people (Shebby, the owners and possibily Shaw) nobody knows for sure who the new man is. Hopefully it is true that it will be done by Wednesday so that we can end the "uncertainty" and get on with things.

Presumably, your external sources are therefore direct links to Shearer ?

[Ralfinho]

who ever comes in will want to get rid of Hendry

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/9998633.Blackburn_Rovers_coach_Colin_Hendry_released_without_charge_following_arrest_over__domestic_incident_/

[RevidgeBlue]

And I have to say this image of this uniting the fans I don't think will be accurate if it fails. There will be far more divisions and doubts within the fanbase about whether to fire Shearer than there ever was about whether to fire Kean if things don't go well.

Everything's easy with the benefit of hindsight. Assuming that Ferguson, Mourinho and Guardiola haven't applied for the job, whoever is appointed is bound to have potential pros and cons to their appointment.

The fans won't be happy if the new manager fails whoever he is. Conversely if he succeeds they'll be ecstatic whoever he is.

The point about uniting the fans is surely relevant before the new manager starts.

For example I can see why people are touting McCarthy as a solid safe option. He wouldn't be my preferred choice although I could accept it and I would be fully behind him.

If however we failed I'm sure I'd be among the first to say "Told you we shouldn't have gone for him, too long in the tooth and out of touch with the modern game" etc etc

[Amo]

Call me racist but do we want another Scotch man in charge

Since when were the Scottish a race?

...Since when were the Scottish people?

[SydneyRover]

There was a time when Ferguson, Wenger, Benitez, Hodgson, Dalglish, Hughes ... Every single manager infant! Would have been inexperienced. You gain experience by managing. There doesn't seem to be a correlation between playing at the highest level and success. You are either good or you aren't. We can't attract Fergie or Wenger, so why not try and find an emerging talent rather than established average one?

Its evolution.

This argument could have been used when we hired Kean too. It didn't wash then and it doesn't wash now.

This is a crucial juncture in our clubs' history, I could name dozens of clubs in the Football League who could take risks with inexperienced managers right now and the future of their club wouldn't be too different if the guy was a failure.

With us, we have so much riding on getting promoted soon. We have players on big wages, signed for big money, by owners who don't have that much cash. The parachute payments are what are keeping us going, but they dry up in two years and we will have a massive financial black hole as our matchday revenues are pretty tiny. So not only will we struggle to get promoted but financially it could well ruin us.

That's why a low risk manager with a much higher chance of getting us promoted is so important for our club.

And if we are going to find an emerging talent, how does Shearer qualify when there's absolutely no evidence he's any sort of emerging managerial talent?

[Roost]

who ever comes in will want to get rid of Hendry

http://www.lancashir...stic_incident_/

Oh dear.

[yoda]

Since when were the Scottish a race?

...Since when were the Scottish people?

who mentioned the Scottish?

[JMillZz]

Yeah but the every option is a risk option makes no sense, why go for a much bigger risk when you can have someone who will carry a much smaller risk of failure?

Who would be the quality backroom staff?! Newell? A man who has never assistant managed and failed as manager at two of the three clubs he's been at? Dowie?

I never said fans should boycott it, and I fully agree that if he gets in the fans should give their full vocal support at least for a while initially. But all this "get behind the new manager" thing as a means to silence very valid doubts about hiring Shearer as manager is utter nonsense, posting this on a forum would not be incompatible with what I said, even if I was still in a position to attend Ewood.

You say McKinlay would be a ridiculous choice and I would agree, but what exactly lifts Shearer above him?

Every appointment is a risk to some degree, and believe me, I alike you would much prefer to see OGS or Holloway or the like in charge ahead of Shearer but I don't think we should write off Shearer right away. The fact he is respected by a lot of people in the game and linked to high profile jobs means he must have something about him that the likes of McKinley don't. I assume his coaching badges and tutorage differ to the likes of McKinley due to him only being employed as a coach whilst Shearer being very much keen on management? We obviously won't know what traits he truly possesses until he is at the helm, all we can do for now is look at his abysmal record at Newc and his work on MOTD, which offers little to suggesting he could make it as a good manager but maybe he could! Maybe there is more to him that we don't know about and I believe everyone should just calm down and fully support him before going into meltdown. Also who says that's guaranteed to be his backroom staff? All we can do is wait and see I guess.

[G Somerset Rover]

who ever comes in will want to get rid of Hendry

http://www.lancashir...stic_incident_/

Sounds unlike Hendry.

Slurp.

[SydneyRover]

Everything's easy with the benefit of hindsight. Assuming that Ferguson, Mourinho and Guardiola haven't applied for the job, whoever is appointed is bound to have potential pros and cons to their appointment.

The fans won't be happy if the new manager fails whoever he is. Conversely if he succeeds they'll be ecstatic whoever he is.

The point about uniting the fans is surely relevant before the new manager starts.

For example I can see why people are touting McCarthy as a solid safe option. He wouldn't be my preferred choice although I could accept it and I would be fully behind him.

If however we failed I'm sure I'd be among the first to say "Told you we shouldn't have gone for him, too long in the tooth and out of touch with the modern game" etc etc

If we get a fairly safe pair of hands (eg Holloway, McCarthy), I'm pretty sure the fans would be happy before the new manager starts.

And I differ with you here, if McCarthy failed I would still say it wasn't a bad decision just one that didn't work out, how could it be a bad decision to appoint someone who has won the league we are in twice?

Even if Kean had done well, I still would have said we were extremely lucky that the decision to sack a good experienced manager for a total novice didn't work out as bad as it usually would have done.

[RevidgeBlue]

And I differ with you here, if McCarthy failed I would still say it wasn't a bad decision just one that didn't work out, how could it be a bad decision to appoint someone who has won the league we are in twice?

Because in my view he is a very old school manager who is relatively poor tactically but excels mainly on being a great bloke and getting the best out of his players because they want to play for him.

[True Blue & White]

So the new manager should be in by Wednesday eh?

Like how he was supposed to be in before the weekend last week?

Starting to remind me of the 'Kean is leaving in a few days' lines we got throughout his tenure, I'll believe it when I see it.

[jim mk2]

Because in my view he is a very old school manager who is relatively poor tactically but excels mainly on being a great bloke and getting the best out of his players because they want to play for him.

Just what we need at the present time. He's also won promotion twice. Give him a short-term contract with a bonus when we win promotion. What is Singh waiting for ?

[mark1875]

Billy Mckinlay 8/15

Ian Holloway 7/2

Tim Sherwood 5/1

Alan Shearer 8/1

Next 4 all 20/1

Worrying pattern

[yoda]

Just what we need at the present time. He's also won promotion twice. Give him a short-term contract with a bonus when we win promotion. What is Singh waiting for ?

Mrs D

[callumrovers]

If it is Billy Mckinlay I will be keaned off.

[bradeagle]

surprised Robbie Savage hasnt been linked

[Black Burn]

Just what we need at the present time. He's also won promotion twice. Give him a short-term contract with a bonus when we win promotion. What is Singh waiting for ?

A better manager.

Nothing against McCarthy, but he was also responsible for a couple of disasters, like the 19-point finish in the Premiership. As I said, nothing is ever guaranteed. He could very well lift us out of the Championship, or we could have earned a measly 19 points for the rest of the season after he comes in (and get relegated to League 1). Of course the chances of the former is much higher than the latter, but I think that's why a lot of us don't want him (though more want him).

[OJRovers]

surprised Robbie Savage hasnt been linked

surprised Lily Savage hasn't been linked

[SydneyRover]

A better manager.

Nothing against McCarthy, but he was also responsible for a couple of disasters, like the 19-point finish in the Premiership. As I said, nothing is ever guaranteed. He could very well lift us out of the Championship, or we could have earned a measly 19 points for the rest of the season after he comes in (and get relegated to League 1). Of course the chances of the former is much higher than the latter, but I think that's why a lot of us don't want him (though more want him).

His record in this league is brilliant. And on his most recent outing he kept Wolves in the league for two PL seasons and was harshly sacked in the third when he may well have kept them up again.

[Amo]

A better manager.

Nothing against McCarthy, but he was also responsible for a couple of disasters, like the 19-point finish in the Premiership. As I said, nothing is ever guaranteed. He could very well lift us out of the Championship, or we could have earned a measly 19 points for the rest of the season after he comes in (and get relegated to League 1). Of course the chances of the former is much higher than the latter, but I think that's why a lot of us don't want him (though more want him).

That's all well and good but in the meantime we're dropping vital pts whilst waiting for this 'better manager'.

McCarthy knows this division and what's required to get out of it. That's all that matters this year. Fail to achieve that and we better get used to lower league football.