[Archived] Next Manager Part 2

[USABlue]

I just don't know anymore. I have a sinking feeling that my love of this great old Football Team is close to coming to an end. For overs forty years I have followed our fortunes, mostly through dark times. I have never felt ashamed of my club, not even when we reached the low ebb of lower reaches of the old third division. Now I do, in fact it makes me nauseous to think what these people have done. I really feel like just packing it in and doing something else on Saturdays and such. I can't imagine what you the paying folks are feeling, it's disgusting it really is. I hate that whole regime with a passion. Billy keaning McKinlay give me a break, Get real and understand Singh and Co, we see right through you. Now Kean OFF

[BigUts]

I take it back. Rationality gone. Push the panic button!

[yoda]

I just don't know anymore. I have a sinking feeling that my love of this great old Football Team is close to coming to an end. For overs forty years I have followed our fortunes, mostly through dark times. I have never felt ashamed of my club, not even when we reached the low ebb of lower reaches of the old third division. Now I do, in fact it makes me nauseous to think what these people have done. I really feel like just packing it in and doing something else on Saturdays and such. I can't imagine what you the paying folks are feeling, it's disgusting it really is. I hate that whole regime with a passion. Billy keaning McKinlay give me a break, Get real and understand Singh and Co, we see right through you. Now Kean OFF

Not like it used to be is it!

They will be gone one day, not sure what they are going to leave behind though, I have always thought the real turning point for the fans will be the dingle derby

pm'd you

[Baz]

Which decent manager on anyone's list would work with Shebby, ( Agnew, Shaw & Venkys)? That's why the list is full of novices.

The statement from Shebby on the BRAG website is pathetic, classless and clueless.

There is no hope for us until Venkys are gone, as they cannot make 1 single good decision between them. God knows what state we will be in by then.

[Stuart]

One of the "football people" Shebby has been talking to...

[CrazyIvan]

This has turned into more of a circus than ever. Shebby Singh releasing a statement through BRFCAG is plainly idiotic. Shebby Singh seeking advice from ANY fan regarding the selection of a manager is also totally stupid. There's a reason why John Williams did all the football business behind closed doors. BRFCAG being involved or having ANY part in the selection of a manager of BRFC is wrong (including advise!). Wrong for them, wrong for Rovers and wrong for the fans.

For god sake Venky's, dump Shebby from selecting a manager and put a decent managerial team back in place. Agnew can go Kean himself. I'm sure he'd like that...

[Paul]

“This is for all fans – I am deeply saddened and shocked by the persecution of former players whose names have been linked as potential managers of this club. It is a culture shock for me as everywhere in the world, former players are lauded for their contributions and achievements. On the choice of a new manager, it is now time for contemplation as due process is carried out”.

Read this, have a look at the Vital interview (there is a link on here), think about JA on Sky, SK and his 1% nonsense, multiple pundits on Sky, certain print journalists etc. etc.

There is a pattern here which Shebby, possibly, unwittingly, has joined with his most recent statements - blame the fans. Ultimately we are seen as responsible for much of what has happened in the last couple of years. Publically Shebby might deny it but his last two interviews reveal his real opinion.

Shebby never was and never will be right for our club. With due respect to BRAG and Vital he should be talking to no one. If a statement is needed we have the club site or the LT.

Does Singh not realise if we appoint the new Mourhino another club will nick him at the first opportunity?

Plenty of ex players I'd love to see leading the club back to the PL but the trouble is none have the necessary experience. If it has to be an inexperienced man I'd take Tugay on the simple basis we love him and he loves us! Good reason to appoint a manager?

[SAS]

Rovers Fans Threaten Boycott Over McKinlay

Pathetic.

No wonder the rest of the country thinks we are idiots.

Whilst Mckinely is far from my first choice I would certainly give him a chance!!!

[Andy]

Rovers Fans Threaten Boycott Over McKinlay

So the fans are 'going into meltdown' at the prospect of Sherwood, are we...?

Bit worried that Singh is being advised of stuff like this on our (the fans as a whole) behalf.

McKinlay yes, terrible choice on the face of it, but I would say that Sherwood would be a pretty popular appointment - maybe now not going to happen because a handful of fans who Singh consults think it's a bad idea.

[Blackpool_Rover]

As far as I'm concerned....we are corrupt. End of story

[Pugg]

I've been trying to think of a word to sum up how I feel about everything that has been going on and I have just come up with 'tired'. I am so flipping tired of everything; Venkys, Shebby and currently most things to do with football.

That statement from Shebby is ridiculous. Every manager you look at Shebby will receive some 'flak' from some supporters, that should not come as a surprise to you. We are all (well most) human and have our own thoughts about who would do a decent job at our club. If you really are shocked that the supporters don't want McKinley then there really is little hope left. I can see the logic in wanting to appoint someone 'up and coming'...we did that with Paul Ince...it didn't work out but then we were a premier league team, we had people who we had confidence in to rectify the situation of it went wrong and that is what happened. We then tried it again...we are now in the championship and have no confidence in the people running the club as it is ultimately their fault.

So we can't afford to take another massive risk. Especially one with links to Kean! We need a fresh start, to start to try and build some sort of confidence in the owners (a massive task I know!), unite the majority of the fans and start to have a well run, well respected club again. My answer would be to get an experienced manager and get new owners but since that isn't going to happen, how about getting someone trusted and respected, like a John Williams in and someone trusted and respected instead of McKinley. Something needs to happen quickly because talk of four lists STILL is bloody ludicrous.

I'm not even gonna say who I think we should choose from because if Shebby really is reading this then my suggestions will probably make their way on a fifth 'message board suggestions' list! My advice though...just take the smallest gamble possible and put the club before your egos and needing your man! Does it matter who picks the next manager if it's a good un?

[yoda's brother]

This has turned into more of a circus than ever. Shebby Singh releasing a statement through BRFCAG is plainly idiotic. Shebby Singh seeking advice from ANY fan regarding the selection of a manager is also totally stupid. There's a reason why John Williams did all the football business behind closed doors. BRFCAG being involved or having ANY part in the selection of a manager of BRFC is wrong (including advise!). Wrong for them, wrong for Rovers and wrong for the fans.

For god sake Venky's, dump Shebby from selecting a manager and put a decent managerial team back in place. Agnew can go Kean himself. I'm sure he'd like that...

the bits in bold.

obviously you havnt been reading previous posts, glen and mark have clarified that brag have NO input on this.

gee some people.

[alexanders]

What a farce and poisonous environment....

[Kamy100]

He did, hence Shebby's words today "I have spoken to football people and Billy Mckinlay comes highly recommended"

My first big mistake was crediting Shebby with having some common sense. I did indeed tell Shebby to consult with football people and details of people such as Sir Alex who would've talked to Shebby. I did not for one minute think that the footballing people that Shebby would talk to is his fellow pundit Gerry Armstrong. It is becoming pretty clear that it is Armstrong who is helping Shebby with this process. As Billy is the Northern Ireland assistant manager, Gerry is pushing his name forward to be Rovers manager.

Like I said yesterday I have no idea about the managerial abilities of McKinley, but what I do know is that his departure from Rovers was not good and the fact that he has a close friendship with Steve Kean will always be a problem for the majority of fans.

Even now all is not lost, all it requires is some joined up thinking and for Shebby to start to listen to people who know what they are talking about.

[trueblueroversiloveu]

Now we know the owneers are looking at this mb I think a new poll is needed. No multiple choice. 3 choices. Who do you want to see as the new boss

1. Experience e.g holloway/mcarthy

2. Former player e.g sherwood or shearer

3. Proven up and coming manager

Then use the results of.that to list whichever managers and go again

[Paul Mellelieu]

The BRAG statement is very unhelpful. I'm not keen on Sherwood, and less so on McKinley, but a boycott before they're appointed makes Rovers fans look worse than stupid. Very unhappy. And I a can't believe that "thousands' of fans have been contacting BRAG. Sounds like Kean's 500 letters a day.

[my_name_is_Earl]

One of the "football people" Shebby has been talking to...

Even Wilson told Shebby to go for experience, I don't know where you got that info from....

[DE.]

Even now all is not lost, all it requires is some joined up thinking and for Shebby to start to listen to people who know what they are talking about.

The problem is Shebby has wasted enough time already.

If Shebby has been taking advice from a pundit, why has it taken over three keaning weeks for him to approach McKinley? Have there been any other interviews? Any approaches to any other managers (bar Sherwood)? What the hell have these clowns been doing since Steve Kean has been sacked?

It seems obvious that they didn't expect Kean to go. If they were planning to give him the boot the Monday before then it beggars belief as to why they hadn't already drawn up a shortlist and prepared themselves for his apparently inevitable departure. The only logical assumption (and I know, Venky's and logic don't go together) is that they had one person in mind to replace Kean - Eric Black. Now Black has shown he's not up to task they're scrambling after weeks of half-hearted 'searching' and posturing to try and find somebody to take on the embarrassing role of being the manager of Blackburn Rovers - and make no mistake, at this point it is an embarrassment to be associated with this club, whether it be as a fan, player or other member of staff.

I dread the announcement of manager, it's going to be a disaster. At the very least this latest farce has shown people the truth about Shebby Singh, not that it should have been required in the first place as his idiocy was obvious from the moment he was appointed.

[Ricky]

Poor poor statement from the action group, shocking quote from GM on the matter in the independent. Tim Sherwood is only just behind OGS and Holloway on the vote on this thread, completely wrong and factually incorrect to say fans would not accept him.

The issue is with McKinley!!! And may I suggest you've used Keans calculator in counting your 1500 members who would boycott if McKinley came in.

The action group should not be getting involved in this. You want the club to be run correctly from top to bottom, I'm sure that's what you've all said in the past!! Well all you're doing this morning is making us look more of a joke. Disgraceful stuff.

[Speedie Dived]

He did, hence Shebby's words today "I have spoken to football people and Billy Mckinlay comes highly recommended"

Clearly Shebby is an idiot, so are you saying he should no longer talk to football people?

[Roost]

Rovers Fans Threaten Boycott Over McKinlay

Who quite the hell do you think you are???

You idiots are embarrassing yourselves - try for once to keep your mouth shut.

Thousands of supporters my arse.

'Gone into meltdown' - are you lot really so stupid? You are playing as big a part in embarrassing our club as SS and the owners are - and for what reason? Your own ego.

A boycott of the game on Saturday? Do you ever stop to think what damage you are doing to the image of our club?

[Wendal]

I've been critical of the BRAG/Shebby love in to date but I have to say they mobilised very quickly yesterday and ensured the right feedback/ pressure was applied.

This was exactly the kind of thing that never happened last time, it allowed Kean to get in the door without murmurs of discontent reaching the owners and resulted in 2 horrible horrible years.

I agree Shebbys statement was ridiculous but BRAG shouldnt censor whatever message he wants to send to fans, at least we know how he thinks.

Hopefully this marks a renewal of BRAG getting onto the front foot and letting the club know that we want a united boardroom and quick, coordinated resolution to this manager situation.

[my_name_is_Earl]

I thought the statement made by BRAG was actually quite refreshing although it could have come much earlier from the start of this process and perhaps been a little less heated (due to it being the start of the process). Once the group left Shebby to get on with things, you always knew it would end in tears. Pressure should have been put on him from the start to bring the right man in with the remit of uniting the fans.

Regardless of what you think of BRAG, they do a good job trying to get such a classless, clueless, unbelievably naive group of owners to understand the role of the supporters at a football club. It is not their fault that our owners continue to make mistakes which beggar belief leaving them to pick up some very fragile pieces. Without BRAG, the club would be in a much worse position, whatever you think of the group.

[Speedie Dived]

Poor poor statement from the action group, shocking quote from GM on the matter in the independent. Tim Sherwood is only just behind OGS and Holloway on the vote on this thread, completely wrong and factually incorrect to say fans would not accept him.

The issue is with McKinley!!! And may I suggest you've used Keans calculator in counting your 1500 members who would boycott if McKinley came in.

The action group should not be getting involved in this. You want the club to be run correctly from top to bottom, I'm sure that's what you've all said in the past!! Well all you're doing this morning is making us look more of a joke. Disgraceful stuff.

Could not agree more.

1500 is still only 20% of their own members and probably around 5% of all fans. Yet this statement basically now comes from every fan claiming we are in 'meltdown' over Sherwood.

Not good at all.

[vwcr]

I thought the statement made by BRAG was actually quite refreshing although it could have come much earlier from the start of this process and perhaps been a little less heated (due to it being the start of the process). Once the group left Shebby to get on with things, you always knew it would end in tears. Pressure should have been put on him from the start to bring the right man in with the remit of uniting the fans.

Regardless of what you think of BRAG, they do a good job trying to get such a classless, clueless, unbelievably naive group of owners to understand the role of the supporters at a football club. It is not their fault that our owners continue to make mistakes which beggar belief leaving them to pick up some very fragile pieces. Without BRAG, the club would be in a much worse position, whatever you think of the group.

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