[Archived] Next Manager Part 2

[rovers_rob]

Cryer seems VERY negative about the whole situation right now. Usually he offers the fans some hope, but as per his article earlier, he believes everyone at Ewood is in a state of disarray right now and believes the Sherwood deal to be way off from happening.

At a guess it would seem that they've chucked all of their eggs in the Sherwood basket, but have no idea how to pull it off. If they cannot land him then what will their next option think of being second choice?

This is going to rumble on IMO, it's definitely going to be Black (if he doesn't walk) in charge against Derby, I'm certain of it.

I think Andy's article sums up how we are all feeling but as soon as we get a manager in place I think the mood will change quickly and more importantly the players will re focus.

I don't agree with what he is saying about Sherwood though.

Andy mentioned we haven't even approached Spurs yet which is the starting point so we are a million miles away because first we have to approach Spurs then we have to convince Sherwood.

That's fair enough but I can't believe we would waste time trying to do a deal with Spurs without knowing whether Sherwood would be interested or not.

Surely his agent has indicated whether or not he wants the job and what his demands are ?

[chaddyrovers]

if Sherwood get the job, just hope he bring experience number 2 like Jordan or Wilkins.

[T.J.Newton]

Agreed. A one year rolling contract is what Venky's should be looking to offer any manager plus a bonus if promotion is achieved. This may put off some managers as they want the security, but some managers will likely be open to this sort of deal as it let's them get out if it goes wrong or if they want a new challenge. From the owners perspective it will make it easier for them replace the manager should they wish.

I think you would be surprised how many would be interested in that sort of deal.

Look at it from their perspective, if they do a good job then the manager can either commit to another season if they are happy, or if they are interested in a new challenge go elsewhere without anything to stop them. If it's a disaster then they can walk away with their reputation largely intact, saying that a year wasn't long enough to make their mark on team. With all the bad rep we have gotten over the past two years it would be difficult for a manager to get much blame for any failings.

Only cheap desperate out of work managers would even consider something like that.

[Mike E]

A rolling 1 year contract? Pretty sure most serious candidates would spit in your face if you offered that.

Hughes was on a rolling contract, wasn't he? He hung around for a while. Fairly serious bloke too

[LeChuck]

.........and then sack him when we get promoted because there is only one other with a worse record than him in the Premiership.

"Having romped to the Championship title the season before, few could have seriously predicted the plight Mick McCarthy's men would find themselves in as another campaign degenerated into farce"

NO. THANKS

You know he kept Wolves up for two seasons, right?

There's an incredible bias against British managers, and I can't work out why.

[Blue n White Rover]

I think Andy's article sums up how we are all feeling but as soon as we get a manager in place I think the mood will change quickly and more importantly the players will re focus.

I don't agree with what he is saying about Sherwood though.

Andy mentioned we haven't even approached Spurs yet which is the starting point so we are a million miles away because first we have to approach Spurs then we have to convince Sherwood.

That's fair enough but I can't believe we would waste time trying to do a deal with Spurs without knowing whether Sherwood would be interested or not.

Surely his agent has indicated whether or not he wants the job and what his demands are ?

Clubs talk to the manager/player before they contact the club. Waste of time going through the club first, gaining the permission only to be turned down.

Unfortunately, this is how it now works in football. Illegal, yes. Can you stop it? No.

Take Eddie Howe at Burnley for example. Do you really think they've gone through all that trouble agreeing compensation with Burnley, for Howe to now turn them down. Doubt it.

[dwayne cage]

The reason we haven't approached Spurs yet is probably because there is a debate going on as to whether ut is worth putting cash in one of the biggest tossbuckets pockets for someone who could just as easily be a flop as being a success.

To me getting Sherwood is basically saying "Promotion is the target, but if we don't reach it at least we have a manager the fans like in place for next season."

[tomphil]

This may all come down to finance yet again, maybe we just haven't got any after splashing out on Rhodes. They may be buying time trying to sort out some more loan or other.

[Veevs]

Damn I really thought that by now there would of been a leak.. well if the managers on the shortlist have been approached... or someone would of heard something.

But no the shortlist is drawn up and silence falls.

[booth]

A rolling 1 year contract? Pretty sure most serious candidates would spit in your face if you offered that.

I know! Easy money for a year, who would take that opportunity!

Come on guys, we're talking about huge money that none of us on here could even dream of. If Tim Sherwood wouldn't take that then move along to someone else. The guy has no experience in football management and this is a huge opportunity. Taking him for longer is pure idiocy without knowing what you're getting. And that's without considering the fact that if we don't go up either this season or next, we're screwed financially.

[dwayne cage]

I know! Easy money for a year, who would take that opportunity!

Come on guys, we're talking about huge money that none of us on here could even dream of. If Tim Sherwood wouldn't take that then move along to someone else. The guy has no experience in football management and this is a huge opportunity. Taking him for longer is pure idiocy without knowing what you're getting. And that's without considering the fact that if we don't go up either this season or next, we're screwed financially.

Not really easy money for a year though is it? Worthy candidates can get better offers than that if they hold out. Plus if they flop and get sacked by the club who wouldn't sack the worst manager most people have ever had the misfortune to witness, then chances are they won't get a big job again.

People want job security, a year long rolling contract offers little of that.

[Roost]

You know he kept Wolves up for two seasons, right?

There's an incredible bias against British managers, and I can't work out why.

I do, and every Wolves fan turned against him. The football was chronic.

Good God, there has to be a better option than a journeyman manager of his calibre.

[Ewoodbhappy]

Gary Flitcroft just touted by bookie on sky sports at 28/1.

Hope not!

[LeChuck]

I do, and every Wolves fan turned against him. The football was chronic.

Good God, there has to be a better option than a journeyman manager of his calibre.

If he got us up and could stabilise us for a season, who cares?!

He's not my first choice but he'd be a good appointment.

Edit: Here's why we dodged a bullet with Trapattoni! Shane Long on the bench for someone who is playing right wing for Stoke?

[jim mk2]

I do, and every Wolves fan turned against him. The football was chronic.

Good God, there has to be a better option than a journeyman manager of his calibre.

I like journeymen - they're solid and dependable and they get the job done. McCarthy is just the sort of manager we need at this present time.

[Mercer]

Hughes was on a rolling contract, wasn't he? He hung around for a while. Fairly serious bloke too

When your rolling contract is supposedly in excess of one million pounds, you have no worries !

Kean 12/1 for Burnley.

Have a cheeky tenner on Mickey Mellon @ 16/1 !

[booth]

Not really easy money for a year though is it? Worthy candidates can get better offers than that if they hold out. Plus if they flop and get sacked by the club who wouldn't sack the worst manager most people have ever had the misfortune to witness, then chances are they won't get a big job again.

People want job security, a year long rolling contract offers little of that.

Not really easy money?

Really?

You ever worked in a factory for minimum wage when you've a mortgage to pay?

If the reports are to be believed about Sherwood with a million pound bonus should we get promotion, along with already huge wages, it's not just easy money it's F****** easy money. Do you think he'll be on that at Tottenham?

Have a cheeky tenner on Mickey Mellon @ 16/1 !

I know at least one Burnley fan who reckons that's a possibility and he'd be happy if they appointed him.

[LeChuck]

Not really easy money?

Really?

You ever worked in a factory for minimum wage when you've a mortgage to pay?

That's a different topic entirely though, not relevant whilst we are discussing professional football managers. They live in a different world.

Very few managers will take a one year rolling contract.

[booth]

That's a different topic entirely though, not relevant whilst we are discussing professional football managers. They live in a different world.

Very few managers will take a one year rolling contract.

Yes but we're talking about novice managers. Let's not forget they are trying to discover the new English Mourinho.

[LeChuck]

Yes but we're talking about novice managers. Let's not forget they are trying to discover the new English Mourinho.

Sorry I thought it was still in relation to Mick McCarthy.

I guess the problem is that it only works with managers out of work. You can't really justify paying compensation to take someone from a club and only offer them a one year rolling deal.

[Ewoodbhappy]

Just a little strange.

Blackburn / Bolton / Burnley all looking for new managers.

Spin it around.

If you were a manager mentioned through these posts, which would be the best job to go for?

[booth]

Sorry I thought it was still in relation to Mick McCarthy.

I guess the problem is that it only works with managers out of work. You can't really justify paying compensation to take someone from a club and only offer them a one year rolling deal.

I was referring mainly to the Sherwood interest.

Just a little strange.

Blackburn / Bolton / Burnley all looking for new managers.

Spin it around.

If you were a manager mentioned through these posts, which would be the best job to go for?

I'd go and work at Currys.

[bypass06]

Simon Garner: 'My top five picks for the Rovers job'

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn_rovers/news/9982917.Simon_Garner___My_top_five_picks_for_the_Rovers_job_/

[McClarky]

Coco the Claret has a lovely ring to it doesn't it. Pleeeeeeeeaaaaaaase, if there is a God out there, we deserve this moment of hilarity surely.

[dwayne cage]

Not really easy money?

Really?

You ever worked in a factory for minimum wage when you've a mortgage to pay?

If the reports are to be believed about Sherwood with a million pound bonus should we get promotion, along with already huge wages, it's not just easy money it's F****** easy money. Do you think he'll be on that at Tottenham?

I know at least one Burnley fan who reckons that's a possibility and he'd be happy if they appointed him.

No I work 3 jobs as youth worker, tour guide and drama teacher on minimum wage and struggle to meet my 360 pound a week rent 78 pound a month council tax and 80 pound a month water bill debts plus gas and electric.

Difference is if things go wrong I am confident I won't have thousands of people chanting for me to leave my job, have death threats sent to myself and my family and am pretty sure if I was fired I could find another job.

So no I don't think it is easy money pal.

Oh and 37 pound a month mobile contract