[Archived] Next Manager Part 2

[USABlue]

And it drags on. I really think they are all scared to make a decision for fear of getting it wrong. OGS is for some reason starting to sound more appealing. BEt the Dingles and Bolton have a new boss in before us.

[darrenrover]

And it drags on. I really think they are all scared to make a decision for fear of getting it wrong. OGS is for some reason starting to sound more appealing. BEt the Dingles and Bolton have a new boss in before us.

Bet USA have a new boss in before us

[Paul]

And it drags on. I really think they are all scared to make a decision for fear of getting it wrong. OGS is for some reason starting to sound more appealing. BEt the Dingles and Bolton have a new boss in before us.

It's going to drag on, and on, and on.........three things we need to look at to understand why:

When have the Raos made a decisive move or decision?

They have no one they trust with real knowledge of English football to advise them

There is no one at Ewood with the knowledge and experience to help the process

My feeling is we are still in the dithering phase whereby the family, once again, do not have the ability to make a decision. Note SS has talked of a manager who will play in the Raos style (eh??), the new Mourhino etc. These people are still working in la la land when it's clear to the footballing world we need an experienced man who knows how to bring a touch of steel and determination to the team - oh hang there's a problem in itself?

SS has said, quite rightly, promotion is essential this season. I'm worried experienced managers are looking at the squad and concluding we don't have the players to achieve promotion. The new man is basically looking at having to limp along till January before getting in a decent midfield and creating a storming second half to the season.

History shows the Raos will sanction signings on January 31st when we need a hit list to be signed on day one. The new manager will have the current squad for three months and a chance with new players for three and a half months.

Any employed manager will steer well clear and rightly so. Looked at in cold, hard light this is a poisoned chalice from day one. Ask yourself seriously if it's worth the chance? Bolton and Burnley will probably get new managers ahead of us.

All the bluster from Ewood tells me nothing has changed and is unlikely to. There's a 50/50 chance it will be Eric Black

[chaddyrovers]

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/9983387.Sherwood_still_in_Rovers__thoughts/

[chaddyrovers]

The independent is saying that Sherwood and Robinson are our top 2 names on shortlist

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/sherwood-top-of-blackburns-wanted-list-8209864.html?origin=internalSearch

[Paul]

Reading Chaddy's links and presuming they are true simply underlines the confusion at Ewood and the lack of senior management. It was widely known Kean was on the brink, in the summer SS hinted at knowing who he wanted as a replacement, yet 16 days after Kean leaves the LT is reporting:

"It is understood a shortlist drawn up by Derek Shaw, Paul Agnew and Shebby Singh includes several names, with one believed to be Sherwood."

At least it's not Agnew's Tesco list for the weekend!!

The Independent say: "A decision isn't likely to be taken before their next fixture"

Which means we will be managerless for at least three weeks. The club management lack power, experience, knowledge, decisiveness, contacts, ability, credence and above all motivation.

Prepare to be underwhelmed

[gumboots]

The whole situation is now beyond ridiculous. Not rushing I can understand but surely the wolves fiasco has shown that every day that goes by fan and player confidence slips. If they don't appoint soon we will have no chance of promotion barring a miracle and since almost every name mentioned is better than what we had pull out a couple of names in each group experienced or rookie sound them out on what they'd want interview the most likely 2 and make a choice even if it's by coin toss.I know it's too important to do this way really but it's also too important to leave much longer. If we'd been previously stable as a club it would matter less because off field stuff would be going on properly but since nothing else is going right we need someone in place to sort out what's supposed to be our primary business playing football.

[John]

Club in chaos once again - have to say when pressed I found it difficult to say who my ideal choice would be but as it stands we don't know what to do.

[martonrover]

clueless and rudderless

[dave birch]

Why oh why did they ever get rid of John Williams?

I could run this from my desk in Sydney better than this shower can.

Chicken farmers, Malaysian football pundits, what next?

I am seriously depressed about the state of the Rovers atm, and that's after Kean leaving

[Stuart]

A thought: if we slotted someone straight in, would that add weight to Kean's constructive dismissal claim?

[gumboots]

A thought: if we slotted someone straight in, would that add weight to Kean's constructive dismissal claim?

Not if it's taken us 2 weeks and there was no proof we'd actually approached that person before surely. Since they are probably not going to make the correct decision anyway they might as well make a decision sooner rather than later and give the incomer a chance. I don't know who i want, I don't think it's my job to choose anyway - I'm just a supporter, but if they can't stick a pin in a list of runners and riders (and let's face it that's how haphazard it will be with this lot) and at least pull someone half decent out to approach well I'll volunteer to do it for them.

[chris_h]

Can somebody explain why we have had to have appointed a manager right now if not sooner? If somebody isn't very good at something how does it help if they have folk yelling at them and pressurising them into doing it in a hurry? Especially when there isn't necessarily a need to do so?

If they are taking their time then good. They need to get this decision right. I couldn't care less about who other clubs might or might not appoint.

To be honest it seems as though whinging has become a hobby for some. I know there has been plenty of reason to but some people need to get a grip. Those would be the same people who will be howling from the rooftops if Venkys are rushed into another cock eyed decision.

[Clitherover]

<br />I am seriously depressed about the state of the Rovers atm, and that's after Kean leaving

<br /><br />It didn't take long at all to come crashing back down to earth with a bang after the one decent thing that's happened to out club in the last two years.<br /><br />With all this uncertainty that surrounds our club there's only one thing I can be certain of; BRFC cannot function whilst Venkys are the owners.<br /><br />

[gumboots]

Can somebody explain why we have had to have appointed a manager right now if not sooner? If somebody isn't very good at something how does it help if they have folk yelling at them and pressurising them into doing it in a hurry? Especially when there isn't necessarily a need to do so?

If they are taking their time then good. They need to get this decision right. I couldn't care less about who other clubs might or might not appoint.

To be honest it seems as though whinging has become a hobby for some. I know there has been plenty of reason to but some people need to get a grip. Those would be the same people who will be howling from the rooftops if Venkys are rushed into another cock eyed decision.

Problem is, do you have any confidence that even if they take their time they will make anything approaching a sensible decision? And moaning occasionally on here about the delay is hardly putting pressure on them is it? It's not like we're protesting through the streets that they haven't made a decision yet. Forums like this are for fans to vent their frustration with goings on at the club amongst people who probably share those frustrations. The longer the club drifts rudderless the longer it will take to right matters like player attitude and fitness. We need a manager soon or this season will be a write off if it isn't already. And who other clubs appoint does matter in that it reduces the number of other managers to choose from. Plus if you're a decent manager who has expressed an interest in this job, isn't the messing around more likely to make you think why bother so that even if they finally make up their mind to approach you, you will probably have made up your mind that this club is not one you want to be associated with?

[my_name_is_Earl]

Interesting read RE: David Dunn in the LT today. For me, the squad has been dreadfully unfit since BS was sacked and this has been one of the biggest contributing factors to our huge decline in performances.

For me, it is essential that we get a taskmaster in, somebody intelligent who understands the link between fitness and being able to perform at your best. We have enough natural flair in the squad but they all look absolutely shattered.

[RoverScot]

They are talking with Sherwood's agent about terms in the same way Jordan Rhodes knew what kind of terms he was getting - hence the Sun stories this week. The two situations are very similar as they will probably want Sherwood to be convinced enough to come that he forces the issue with Levy making compensation less messy. The Jordan Rhodes deal took 5 weeks to do using this approach as he didn't force the issue until the end and we paid over the top.

In my opinion, the next week will be trying to convince Sherwood to come and if it fails they will go for Karl Robinson.

[my_name_is_Earl]

The longer the club drifts rudderless the longer it will take to right matters like player attitude and fitness.

This point is spot-on. This season could still bring promotion, however, with Singh running the ship I have no hope from promotion. The guy talks absolute rubbish. 'Be patient....be patient......' How about, Mr Singh, you realise that the club has huge problems all around and appoint somebody pronto to give the fans the opportunity to rally around somebody at the club?

The problem is his ego. Whilst we are rudderless all of the focus is on him and he loves it. Why would he be in a hurry to change that?!

Personally loathe the guy, other people may say that he got Kean out, but did he really? He said he could sack him and then said that he couldn't. Broken promises from the start. Would trust the Fmr. Iraq information minister over this bloke. Feel free to debate if you disagree?

[martonrover]

Can somebody explain why we have had to have appointed a manager right now if not sooner? If somebody isn't very good at something how does it help if they have folk yelling at them and pressurising them into doing it in a hurry? Especially when there isn't necessarily a need to do so?

If they are taking their time then good. They need to get this decision right. I couldn't care less about who other clubs might or might not appoint.

To be honest it seems as though whinging has become a hobby for some. I know there has been plenty of reason to but some people need to get a grip. Those would be the same people who will be howling from the rooftops if Venkys are rushed into another cock eyed decision.

There's a difference between taking your time and indecision.

I think the current situation falls into the latter category.

Andy Cryer did a piece in yesterday's LT saying morale at Rovers is low and people want direction.

It shouldn't be so difficult to draw up a shortlist and go after your first option, working downwards if necessary.

The idea of interviewing everyone on the shortlist is impractical as candidates already in work will only want to talk if they believe they're getting the job.

The further procrastination makes the job less attractive in my opinion.

[JMillZz]

We needed this international break to make a swift appointment, get the new gaffer's staff on board, get the fitness of the players improved asap and get some organisation in the team. In 3 weeks we could begin to see some results. The longer this drags on the more our promotion chances dwindle. Baffles me how they can't see this. With big name supposed applications from the likes of Schuster etc we should have been able to finalise something fairly quickly. I am not saying to have got it sorted by now exactly but considering we are apparently still at the early stages of finding the right man, it is quickly exposing how farcical BRFC is at present (like we didn't already know...).

[my_name_is_Earl]

In my opinion, I think a reasonable time frame to appoint a new man is between 10-16 days at the most. It's been 14 and there are no signs that anything is any closer. From all those who are ITK, we are hearing thoughts that the process is nowhere near completion.

This is a huge concern for me. We've been patient Singh, time to start delivering. The club is suffering with your prancing around. Get it sorted.

[beanie]

it took around 2 weeks to decide on a shortlist how long will it take to appoint someone it's getting to a joke stage now rudderless and happy to drift along at the expense of team morale and direction the jubilation of Kean going has turned into alarm at how the club is still run.

[the original david brent]

Cannot see it mentioned elsewhere but Colin Hendry is a guest on soccer am. I would of thought they will ask him about the manager situation

[the original david brent]

He basically says he thinks they need an experienced manager. When asked about black, he states he has got those credentials.

He states shebby and the owners are talking about the need for an experienced manager. That contradicts the reports we have heard about shebby.

When asked about shearer, sherwood and ogs, he replied a world class player does not mean he will necessarily be a top class manager or coach.

Only speculating, but I wonder if he didn't get on with sherwood or shearer?

Says he is really enjoying his role at rovers.

That's about the top and bottom of it

[promoted2001]

Has he asked to borrow any money yet?