[Archived] Next Manager Part 2

[Batman.]

Where are people getting the Rijkard stuff from? I'm assuming he'll have had better offers!

To be honest the appointment would be an expensive disaster. He wouldn't even be in my 'Top 10.' Promotion please, not a Leicester esque public masturbation.

[philipl]

To be honest the appointment would be an expensive disaster. He wouldn't even be in my 'Top 10.' Promotion please, not a Leicester esque public masturbation.

Leicester came up from the third tier didn't they?

The players they had and our lot are different in that respect. At least we have many senior players who are used to managers of an international calibre.

Not saying Rijkard is coming but equally I'm not having him written off as a non-runner either.

[Brfcrule1]

Philip do you know something you are not letting on with this statement:

"Not saying Rijkard is coming but equally I'm not having him written off as a non-runner either".

with statements like this suggest you know more than you are letting on and can we safely assume Rijkard is on the short list?.

[Sparky Marky]

Philip do you know something you are not letting on with this statement:

with statements like this suggest you know more than you are letting on.

Where the feck have you been? He does this.

[philipl]

I have been putting his name up as a realistic outsider for ages.

[Sparky Marky]

I have been putting his name up as a realistic outsider for ages.

He could bring Gullit and van Basten with him.

[Bundesburn]

Not saying Rijkard is coming but equally I'm not having him written off as a non-runner either.

And who could write the man off as a non-runner? Great stamina, still in good shape today. How else does he keep himself so trim?

[USABlue]

Not saying we will appoint first, but we wont be beaten by a rival club to someone WE WANT.....

New manager link - Holloway ours for £500k

http://www.mirror.co...-a-500k-1380318

Is this true?

[RevidgeBlue]

New manager link - Holloway ours for £500k

http://www.mirror.co...-a-500k-1380318

Still not the slightest indication as far as I can see that Holloway has any interest in joining us.

It still sounds like Nixon spinning a line to me.

Later in the week to justify the yarn he'll probably come up with some plausible sounding reason why the move "fell through" when it was probably never a goer in the first place.

[rovermagic]

Look now at Oddschecker. Sherwood odds lengthening. OGS shortening for us. Looks like Freedman, not McCarthy for Bolton. Not surprising: OGS & Freedman best two young and not boring managers out there.

[rightrover]

They briefly touched on the subject of Rover's manager on 5live earlier tonight. Amidst confessions of ignorance and confusion as to what the hell is going on, someone (McGarry I think) said that Rovers HAVE approached Harry Redknapp, but he turned us down to wait for a Premiership job. Someone else (Clem, I think) stated that Shebby Singh's preference has been for Eric Black, which is why he got the initial three games to prove himself (and now looks like getting more.)

Personally, I'm sceptical of everything again. Having got hopes up when Kean left that we might, just might, become a normal club again (I'm not even asking for "well run" as we used to be - just "normal" will do), my confidence has evaporated. We aren't normal. Above everything, even getting a manager, I just wish "the truth" would come out because I can't see how the Venkys can own the club and run it in this bizarre fashion - why would they? An asset apparently costing them millions, wasting away? It seems unreal - and it probably is.

[RevidgeBlue]

Not saying Rijkard is coming but equally I'm not having him written off as a non-runner either.

Why do you even bother posting such nonsense?

I'm not saying Pep Guardiola is coming either. Nor am I saying he isn't.

There you are, I'm guaranteed not to be wrong as well.

[Paul]

I am afraid that you have completely misunderstood the thrust of my original post. It quite simply never even occured to me that anyone would read it as you have done, and that was most certainly NOT my meaning at all.

Only just caught up with this thread and I interpreted your original post in exactly the same way as RB. I had planned to comment till I read the subsequent posts

[Paul]

Price pre August £399 (average per match of £17.35 over 23) - presumably what you paid.

Price post August £459.

Price now with Wolves refund and five matches gone £430.

Would be surprised if they sold more than a dozen or so at £430.

I would pitch them at £339 which is an average per match of £18.83 over last 18 games.

How anyone could be upset with that is beyond me.

First I wouldn't personally be upset by the orice others paid as renewing is not just about price for me. I understand the arguement re filling the ground etc. However basic rules of selling are never devalue the product and never allow the customer to take control. I'd say it's arguable the price of a ticket at Ewood was devalued years ago. Anyway.

An offer was made which thousands chose to reject. Their choice. Circumstances change and the arguement becomes those customers should pay the same or close to the original offer. Why? No reason at all.

Change the circumstances for another season. A fan finds work and holiday commitments mean he will miss the first five home games so doesn't bother to renew. After the fifth game he goes to Ewood and asks for the discount on the basis you did it last year so why not this. Anytime a selling price is lowered it creates an expectation and perception of the value / price in the customer's mind. Once that basic price is established it will be yardstick by which future offers are judged. Control has been relinquished to the customer.

Recently my wife and I wanted a very expensive piece of furniture from Laura Ashley - somewhere we never shop as it's too expensive. A recent sale combined with an offer on a store card gave a 70% reduction. We bought the item, which had to be made to order, and know two other couples who deliberately waited for the offer. The store card arrived, cut it up immediately but kept the £20 welcome voucher (more discount).

The result is a value has been established. We know if we want to add from the range if we wait a minimum 60% discount will arrive. From store to manufacturer and supplier of raw materials the product range has lost 60% of its value.

Alternatively LA are ripping everyone off with the original price which creates another perception.

In business it's essential to determine the product value and price, make the offer and stick with it.

The suggestion Rovers should mess with prices potentially irritates one section of support, devalues the product further and creates an expectation the fan can just turn up and buy whenever. A nightmare for any company.

Occasionally my wife and I use Premier Inn specials at £19. Charge any more and we go to a proper hotel instead of a prison cell. Market price of room £60-75, the value £19. Bonkers.

[gumboots]

First I wouldn't personally be upset by the orice others paid as renewing is not just about price for me. I understand the arguement re filling the ground etc. However basic rules of selling are never devalue the product and never allow the customer to take control. I'd say it's arguable the price of a ticket at Ewood was devalued years ago. Anyway.

An offer was made which thousands chose to reject. Their choice. Circumstances change and the arguement becomes those customers should pay the same or close to the original offer. Why? No reason at all.

Change the circumstances for another season. A fan finds work and holiday commitments mean he will miss the first five home games so doesn't bother to renew. After the fifth game he goes to Ewood and asks for the discount on the basis you did it last year so why not this. Anytime a selling price is lowered it creates an expectation and perception of the value / price in the customer's mind. Once that basic price is established it will be yardstick by which future offers are judged. Control has been relinquished to the customer.

I always miss the first 2-3 weeks of the season as i'm generally on holiday. I also miss several other games every season for the same reason. I still buy a season ticket most seasons. It's actually still good value and shows my support even though I can't be there. I've never expected a price reduction. I've only missed the Middlesbrough game this season as a protest - the other home games before Wolves I couldn't have gone to anyway.

[Jock]

Venkys logic- Cheaper not having a manager.

[Kelbo]

Why do you even bother posting such nonsense?

I'm not saying Pep Guardiola is coming either. Nor am I saying he isn't.

There you are, I'm guaranteed not to be wrong as well.

The Rijkard link is not as far fetched as you may think, no more on this but I would have a look at his record and where he is now, very low profile and my understanding is he doesnt like it out there! (apart from his £2,500,000 tax free annual salary)

[Majiball]

The Rijkard link is not as far fetched as you may think, no more on this but I would have a look at his record and where he is now, very low profile and my understanding is he doesnt like it out there!

The link is solid, something to ASPIRE too.

[Mercer]

Still not the slightest indication as far as I can see that Holloway has any interest in joining us.

It still sounds like Nixon spinning a line to me.

Later in the week to justify the yarn he'll probably come up with some plausible sounding reason why the move "fell through" when it was probably never a goer in the first place.

I think Nicko is bang on the money with this.

I have been posting for the last few days about the probability of such a clause based upon what a friend who follows Blackpool has been telling me.

A fellow poster contacted me and confirmed the same and yesterday even stated the same figure as Nicko !

I think Holloway is there for the taking. Speculation is that he's a bit unsettled and relationship with Oyston is strained. If Rovers and Holloway want this to happen, can't see how Oyston can stop it !

[broadsword]

Could Hollowhead's (as Leicester fans used to call him) relationship with Oyston be as bad as what he will encounter working with the organisational vacuum known as Venky's?

He's not good enough and in any case he would be mad to come.

[miqaayil]

The Rijkard link is not as far fetched as you may think, no more on this but I would have a look at his record and where he is now, very low profile and my understanding is he doesnt like it out there!

hoping and praying on this

[Majiball]

Could Hollowhead's (as Leicester fans used to call him) relationship with Oyston be as bad as what he will encounter working with the organisational vacuum known as Venky's?

He's not good enough and in any case he would be mad to come.

The trouble is Ollie is mad.

My jobs on the line, my teams down how do I inspire them??? I know I'll run across the pitch and dive in the mud telling them all to do it as well. Bizarre.

But it worked and he won the next game.

[Paul]

I always miss the first 2-3 weeks of the season as i'm generally on holiday. I also miss several other games every season for the same reason. I still buy a season ticket most seasons. It's actually still good value and shows my support even though I can't be there. I've never expected a price reduction. I've only missed the Middlesbrough game this season as a protest - the other home games before Wolves I couldn't have gone to anyway.

I understand that and agree with you but there has never before, as far as I know, been an offer to buy an ST after the fan chose to miss five games. You buy an ST accepting, through your choice, you will miss a number of games.

That is a different position from Mercerman's proposal fans should be able to purchase at a lower price despite them having chosen to stay away.

[McClarky]

The Rijkard link isn't a link at all. It is just wishful thinking and blind speculation. What a load of nonsence. Just because someone mentions ihis name on here doesn't mean he's in contention.

[rovers_rob]

Yesterday I couldn't see Ollie coming here in a million years and I still think its a long shot but I guess it depends on whether he wants a new challenge or if if he is happy in his comfort zone at Blackpool.

Nothing in the LT regarding the manager, Daily Mail are reporting Sherwood in by the weekend and Mirror reporting we are looking at Ollie.

As for Rijkard ? Sorry not having that one.

Sherwood is Shebbys choice so I am guessing he is going for one final push to get him in this week. I'm not betting against Shebby, so far he seems to have got his way with everything.