[Archived] Next Manager Part 2

[my_name_is_Earl]

This morning's LT reports that Rovers plan to talk to ALL managers on their shortlist. Discussions with some managers have already taken place, others will take place soon. Rovers expected to formally ask permission to talk to Sherwood very soon. LT reports that Black still remains in the running and new manager unlikely to be in place before Derby game.

Venky's will have burnt all their bridges with me if Eric Black is appointed. Disgrace that he's still getting a look in with all these so called 'big names' wanting the job. Shebby Singh is an absolute joke as a person and an absolute joke in his position.

[Black Burn]

Some are WUM's and some are pedants. In the grand scale of things, who cares?

It's not that we want Judan Ali. I thought the poll was of acceptance, not desire. He wouldn't be my first choice, but in the astronomical event that he gets elected as our new manager, I won't be going "Ali out!" and will give him a chance.

However, I must admit that my vote for Shebby Singh IS a joke. I found it hilarious that his name is on the list, so I thought what the heck, might as well give him a go or he'll hover over the zero mark. Given his character, I highly doubt that he will ever want to become manager - he's happy with his position as it is.

[yoda]

Whos watching Heathrow for Shirley to catch a flight to Zurich,

or more likely Shebby driving up the M55

[dr_awol]

Some of you lot need a bit of perspective, we've just got rid of the worse manager in the clubs history and you're now complaining about who will replace him!!

Lets all agree, as long as its not Singh or the Indian chap anyone's better than that ****

How do you know that the "Indian Chap" is not good enough? why would you take anyone besides Singh or the Indian chap ? Singh has 15 years experience as a player so he know the game !! also has more pundit experience than shearer so is probably more qualified for the job than him.

[G Somerset Rover]

Lets refresh, when we had Kean, the majority said they would take anyone as long as we got our club back, I think, in my opinion thats the important thing, fresh ideas and our club back, a younger manager with links to Rovers plus working with a well organised club for the past few years would help massively, Sherwood would be a reasonable shout but whoever takes over, there can be no gaurantees!!

For me any new manager will have my backing as long as it isn't somebody promoted internally (Black, Hendry etc) or some utterly ridiculous apppointment such as Ali. I 'accepted' the majority on the poll here but if it's any of the aforementioned names then I'm done until Venky's go. As hard as that would be.

[Waggy76]

I am not sure , what to make of the latest news ....Something nagging away inside me is saying Black needs a win !

Sherwood yes ,Holloway yes ...I ahve reservations about the pair of them ...

Blackburn Rovers need a proper manager , relegation is a possibility the squad is poor and needs major surgery ...

Next season is more realistic for a promotion push , Kean signed some shocking players and it will be difficult to move them on i.e Goodwillie .

[den]

Whoever the new manager is he's not going to be everybody's choice. But like him or not get behind him and the team or stay away!

Exactly !

Some incredibly churlish remarks on here about Sherwood already and he hasn't even been appointed yet.

I freely admit he wouldnt be my number one choice but if appointed Ill be 100% behind him.

I hope everyone else would be of the same mind and that the bad feeling that has enveloped the club since Kean was appointed might disappear.

Well you guys can lead the next batch of cheerleaders if you like. I'll just post what I think from day one onwards. - as I always have.

Like I said before, Sherwood is obviously Shebby's answer to the fans division, just as Shearer would have been. He's his Maradonna. Now good luck to Tim if he takes over, hopefully he'll make a big name for himself and the club.

[Black Burn]

Lets all agree, as long as its not Singh or the Indian chap anyone's better than that ****

There you go, I just knew someone will disapprove of Judan Ali because he's Indian.

[Jimmy612]

There you go, I just knew someone will disapprove of Judan Ali because he's Indian.

God I hope thats a joke

Infact I'm convinced it is. I've seen that many racist claims over the past 12months within football I'm sick to death of them.

Last nights events was real racism, not some slanging match between two idiots playing football (Terry & Ferdinand)

[Rover_Shaun]

Here we go. Same old hackneyed race claptrap.

[Howler]

Some of you lot need a bit of perspective, we've just got rid of the worse manager in the clubs history and you're now complaining about who will replace him!!

Lets all agree, as long as its not Singh or the Indian chap anyone's better than that ****

Spot on

[Black Burn]

God I hope thats a joke

Infact I'm convinced it is.

That's what the is for, yeah.

[RevidgeBlue]

Venky's will have burnt all their bridges with me if Eric Black is appointed. Disgrace that he's still getting a look in with all these so called 'big names' wanting the job. Shebby Singh is an absolute joke as a person and an absolute joke in his position.

Your vitriolic and personal attacks on Singh are becoming tiresome to say the least and more than a little odd. Yes we know you can't stand the fellow, you keep reminding us several times a day.

However seeing as Sherwood was always seemingly Singh's number one choice, who exactlyare these top notch appointments he's meant to have single handedly derailed? (according to you)

[yoda]

There you go, I just knew someone will disapprove of Judan Ali because he's Indian.

How on earth can that be described as racist, get over yourself FFS, The post was based on experience and proven ability

[Black Burn]

How on earth can that be described as racist, get over yourself FFS, The post was based on experience and proven ability

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You obviously have not read the last few posts pertaining to that matter and ignored the icon I put specifically at the end of the sentence to show that it was a joke. So....get over youself, you must. Learn to read jokes, you should try. Stop being hostile, can you please?

As for experience and proven ability, I find it funny that people are overlooking Judan Ali's experience in coaching youth teams and Asian teams, but despite Filty, Alan Shearer and Tim Sherwood having the same amount of experience - meaning almost none (in fact, Tim Sherwood probably has the same amount of experience as Judan Ali in terms of coaching youth teams), the two are preferred over Ali. So I doubt it really is a matter of experience that we are forgoing Ali here. It's more of people not wanting a manager they have never heard of as opposed to having ex-players of legendary statuses to come on.

Not accusing anyone of racism, but I honestly think the "lack of experience" is only one part of it. The other part is probably because no one has heard of him before.

[BigBar]

Some of you lot need a bit of perspective, we've just got rid of the worse manager in the clubs history and you're now complaining about who will replace him!!

Lets all agree, as long as its not Singh or the Indian chap anyone's better than that ****

Sorry totally disagree, ridiculous post!

[den]

Gav and Revidge asking for support for the new manager eh?.......................

Hee Hee!

[G Somerset Rover]

Sorry totally disagree, ridiculous post!

Have to agree with you. The whole "i'll take anybody as it's not Kean" stance is quite a ridiculous. It's opinions like that which will encourage Shebby and the Rao's to go for the easy, cheap option that is Black.

[roversR4ever]

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You obviously have not read the last few posts pertaining to that matter and ignored the icon I put specifically at the end of the sentence to show that it was a joke. So....get over youself, you must. Learn to read jokes, you should try. Stop being hostile, can you please?

As for experience and proven ability, I find it funny that people are overlooking Judan Ali's experience in coaching youth teams and Asian teams, but despite Filty, Alan Shearer and Tim Sherwood having the same amount of experience - meaning almost none (in fact, Tim Sherwood probably has the same amount of experience as Judan Ali in terms of coaching youth teams), the two are preferred over Ali. So I doubt it really is a matter of experience that we are forgoing Ali here. It's more of people not wanting a manager they have never heard of as opposed to having ex-players of legendary statuses to come on.

Not accusing anyone of racism, but I honestly think the "lack of experience" is only one part of it. The other part is probably because no one has heard of him before.

I can see what you are saying but Ali has less experience than Sherwood, Sherwood is working at a Prem team and has played at the highest level in this country. Premiership and championship football has different demands than european or Asian football.

To be honest I am somewhat concerned with going down the Sherwood route as well. What ever happened to players going into management at a lower level, gaining experience, proving they are good enough and then moving on to bigger clubs? It seems to me that its the managers rovers have had who havent proved they are good enough as a manager prior to managing Rovers that have failed the most.

[SouthAussieRover]

Here we go. Same old hackneyed race claptrap.

Now now brfcs.co.uk is a soap opera. It can't be helped if a similar storyline crops up occasionally

[Black Burn]

I can see what you are saying but Ali has less experience than Sherwood, Sherwood is working at a Prem team and has played at the highest level in this country. Premiership and championship football has different demands than european or Asian football.

You're right, I do think Sherwood has more experience than Ali in terms of Premiership, but even so Sherwood has no experience managing a club other than coaching Spurs's youth team. Yet he's highly rated and people don't mind accepting him. So is experience really a factor here, or is potential more important? I guess that was my question.

[bob fleming]

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You obviously have not read the last few posts pertaining to that matter and ignored the icon I put specifically at the end of the sentence to show that it was a joke. So....get over youself, you must. Learn to read jokes, you should try. Stop being hostile, can you please?

As for experience and proven ability, I find it funny that people are overlooking Judan Ali's experience in coaching youth teams and Asian teams, but despite Filty, Alan Shearer and Tim Sherwood having the same amount of experience - meaning almost none (in fact, Tim Sherwood probably has the same amount of experience as Judan Ali in terms of coaching youth teams), the two are preferred over Ali. So I doubt it really is a matter of experience that we are forgoing Ali here. It's more of people not wanting a manager they have never heard of as opposed to having ex-players of legendary statuses to come on.

Not accusing anyone of racism, but I honestly think the "lack of experience" is only one part of it. The other part is probably because no one has heard of him before.

I'm not having that. Ali has no meaningful experience whatsoever. Coaching youth teams and Asian teams just won't cut it. We have just spent 18 years our of 20 in the top flight of English football you want to bring someone in that no one has ever heard of?

Sherwood has just spent 4 years coaching at Spurs. He will have learnt from Redknapp. Similarly he will also have learnt from his time as a player under Dalglish and of the great coach Ray Harford (and at Norwich and at Spurs). He captained Blackburn Rovers to the Premier League, now whilst that gives him zero managerial experience it does give him a certain amount of "clout". You don't become Captain of a Premier League winning team without possessing a certain "something" - and as said before there were some big personalities in that team.

"Show us your badges" - whether you like it or not that counts for a hell of a lot when getting highly paid young professionals to listen to you and do as you ask on the pitch. He has gained respect before he has even walked in the door (should he). With all due respect Ali's CV will not.

We've just carried out a two year experiment with a complete unknown - not just a managerial unknown, but a complete unknown (unless you count his only career recorded footage of scoring that goal for Bath City) as a footballer. Let's not go there again.

[Kelbo]

I'm not having that. Ali has no meaningful experience whatsoever. Coaching youth teams and Asian teams just won't cut it. We have just spent 18 years our of 20 in the top flight of English football you want to bring someone in that no one has ever heard of?

Sherwood has just spent 4 years coaching at Spurs. He will have learnt from Redknapp. Similarly he will also have learnt from his time as a player under Dalglish and of the great coach Ray Harford (and at Norwich and at Spurs). He captained Blackburn Rovers to the Premier League, now whilst that gives him zero managerial experience it does give him a certain amount of "clout". You don't become Captain of a Premier League winning team without possessing a certain "something" - and as said before there were some big personalities in that team.

"Show us your badges" - whether you like it or not that counts for a hell of a lot when getting highly paid young professionals to listen to you and do as you ask on the pitch. He has gained respect before he has even walked in the door (should he). With all due respect Ali's CV will not.

We've just carried out a two year experiment with a complete unknown - not just a managerial unknown, but a complete unknown (unless you count his only career recorded footage of scoring that goal for Bath City) as a footballer. Let's not go there again.

Yes Bob, exactly, Ali would be a joke appointment and I dont think he can be taken seriously, nowhere near good enough and would make the club a laughing stock!

[dr_awol]

Now now brfcs.co.uk is a soap opera. It can't be helped if a similar storyline crops up occasionally

Its totally not about race !!

I really haven't heard a valid reason Judan Ali should be dismissed out of hand, compared to some one like Shearer, execpt that the poster has not heard of him, that's nots really a valid reason as its not really Judan fault.

[Black Burn]

I'm not having that. Ali has no meaningful experience whatsoever. Coaching youth teams and Asian teams just won't cut it. We have just spent 18 years our of 20 in the top flight of English football you want to bring someone in that no one has ever heard of?

Sherwood has just spent 4 years coaching at Spurs. He will have learnt from Redknapp. Similarly he will also have learnt from his time as a player under Dalglish (and at Norwich and at Spurs). He captained Blackburn Rovers to the Premier League, now whilst that gives him zero managerial experience it does give him a certain amount of "clout". You don't become Captain of a Premier League winning team without possessing a certain "something" - and as said before there were some big personalities in that team.

"Show us your badges" - whether you like it or not that counts for a hell of a lot when getting highly paid young professionals to listen to you and do as you ask on the pitch. He has gained respect before he has even walked in the door (should he). With all due respect Ali's CV will not.

We've just carried out a two year experiment with a complete unknown - not just a managerial unknown, but a complete unknown (unless you count his only career recorded footage of scoring that goal for Bath City) as a footballer. Let's not go there again.

You misunderstand me. It's not that I want Judan Ali. I'm just comparing his experience with the others on the shortlist and concluding that he is getting a lot of unfair stick not only because he has no experience but various other factors such as having no connection to our club whatsoever. I mean think about it, if Sherwood had never played for Blackburn Rovers and led us to a trophy, would anyone be considering him? Shearer? Filty? Hill? Thought not.

I mean, if Zola suddenly comes in, or Gareth Southgate throws his name in, I bet nobody would want them either. And it's not because of experience - it's because neither of them has a connection to our club at all.