[Archived] Next Manager Part 2

[my_name_is_Earl]

But who would that be though? I can't think of one potential candidate who would please the vast majority.

Curbishley? "Been out the game for too long and might not be able to command enough respect"

Holloway? "Probably back down again as he can't organise a defence"

Shearer? "Basically no experience and seems fairly clueless"

Robinson? "Potential Ince mk 2"

McCarthy? "Probably back down again"

Sherwood? "No experience"

OGS? "No real English experience and always seemed like a guy who wouldn't hurt a fly, let alone shout at somebody"

Schuster? "No English expeience"

etc etc......The closest one would probably be Holloway but the ones who are wary of him have every right to be imo....we had almost 2 years of not being solid at the back, why appoint a manager who won't address this.......there will always be people who will be unhappy with the appointment......obviously I don't know who they expect us to get but it was the same with signings in the summer.....they're the kind of people who continuously mention how much of a joke we are,while simultaneously expecting to attract decent people to the club.

To be perfectly honest, I think Shebby made a rod for his own back here. By suggesting that such big names have applied, appointing a League One manager with no experience in our league looks pretty poor, regardless of how good or bad Robinson is/may be.

My point is Holloway was the people's choice in the LT, 22.5% of people on here would accept him at the club, he's the first choice of the one of the selectors, he's available on the cheap, he wants to come, he has achieved promotion with the most threadbare squad of all time and nearly did it second time around with an even worse squad......what more do you need to suggest that he is the best candidate for the job out of all those applicants, taking everything into account? It's the obvious choice. Why does Shebby not see that?

[patrickvalery]

common sense will prevail eventually

Just read that back to yourself and have a good long think about what you've just said!!!!

[roverandout]

ah kean, you're right

earl shebby is a nonce and should be given the elbow by the owners, its THEIR club, not his, if they want holloway kean him!!!

[roverandout]

just sent a tweet to shebbys twitter, probably doesnt read them, it was along the lines of give holloway the job, hope more do the same, like i said probably wont make a bit of difference

[den]

If I understand you correctly, according to you Singh wants a yes man or puppet. That does not tie up with his preferred choice being Sherwood.

Why doesn't it? Shebby has already said they want someone who they think they could mould into their idea of how the game should be played. It could be argued that Shebby and the owners would see a newcomer to the managerial game as an extension of how they wanted to run the club under Kean - i.e. a young man who they think could coach players provided on the cheap by Singh and "others". Someone who could add value to the playing squad. The selling point to Sherwood would be that they would provide everything he needed including the playing staff. In effect, Rovers would make him as a manager in the game, just as they intended to do with Kean. The chief player in all this [Mrs D] wasn't prepared to sack Kean simply because the alternative model of a manager who wanted full control would quite simply mean them having to find finances that she wasn't prepared to sanction.

I would suggest Simon, that their quest for Sherwood, or someone like him, reinforces the belief that the Raos - or should I say Mrs D - haven't changed their ideas of how they want to run the club in any way whatsoever.

[rog of the rovers]

Got to the stage where I just want a new manager in place! If other options have been exhausted, Go get Ollie!

[roverandout]

i expect all this talk of singh getting rid of kean for the supporters benefit was all a con, singh's main angle in getting rid of kean was to bring his own 'yes man' in, it was never about the fans, some on here called him a hero, im starting to think of him as a villain, his intention all along was to bring his own stooge in, he will probably leave a bigger stink than what kean left

[m1st]

But who would that be though? I can't think of one potential candidate who would please the vast majority.

Curbishley? "Been out the game for too long and might not be able to command enough respect"

Holloway? "Probably back down again as he can't organise a defence"

Shearer? "Basically no experience and seems fairly clueless"

Robinson? "Potential Ince mk 2"

McCarthy? "Probably back down again"

Sherwood? "No experience"

OGS? "No real English experience and always seemed like a guy who wouldn't hurt a fly, let alone shout at somebody"

Schuster? "No English expeience"

I'm not sure about all of that comment about OGS, SIAH.

He was appointed as reserve team manager at Old Trafford and I can't imagine SAF appointing someone "who wouldn't hurt a fly" to a post like that. As a player, he was called "the baby-faced assassin" and I bet he has a fair streak of ruthlessness in him, both on and off the pitch. Just the sort of attitude you need to stand up to our owners and their global adviser.

[Kelbo]

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And lastly, will the fans be happy with such a low-key appointment? The fan base is on it's knees, the club needs an exciting appointment, one which the fans can rally behind and really support. Karl Robinson will be seen as another cheap option, one that will just be grateful he has a job at this level. I believe the idea of 'getting rid of Kean' (or at least pushing him out) was made purely from a financial point of view, this appointment does not address that issue........at all.

For me, generally, it's another poor appointment from the club. I actually like Robinson, he's a decent bloke, always looking to please others. But he is not the right appointment and Venky's, if they go down this route, will wonder why attendances are not rising and they're still losing money hand over foot.

Nail on the head, we do need an appointment which will lift the fans and players alike, the players need a lift too, they need organisation and direction, Kean didnt do organisation, both Holloway and Sherwood I feel will do that.

[my_name_is_Earl]

Why doesn't it? Shebby has already said they want someone who they think they could mould into their idea of how the game should be played. It could be argued that Shebby and the owners would see a newcomer to the managerial game as an extension of how they wanted to run the club under Kean - i.e. a young man who they think could coach players provided on the cheap by Singh and "others". Someone who could add value to the playing squad. The selling point to Sherwood would be that they would provide everything he needed including the playing staff. In effect, Rovers would make him as a manager in the game, just as they intended to do with Kean. The chief player in all this [Mrs D] wasn't prepared to sack Kean simply because the alternative model of a manager who wanted full control would quite simply mean them having to find finances that she wasn't prepared to sanction.

I would suggest Simon, that their quest for Sherwood, or someone like him, reinforces the belief that the Raos - or should I say Mrs D - haven't changed their ideas of how they want to run the club in any way whatsoever.

Great post den. The lack of a Holloway appointment, especially considering Sherwood's reservations, is bemusing. I can understand a financially stable club wanting to make long term changes and have the freedom to take a bit of a gamble on this type of system but Rovers finances are in an absolute state, we HAVE to get promoted. One of the best candidates who got promoted from this league with possibly the worst ever promoted squad is stood on your doorstep waiting for the call. The fans support his appointment the most on two of the most credible polls regarding our new manager....

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth Shebby...

[roverandout]

just shows they dont give a kean about the fans then

[bob fleming]

You make a valid point - it is a pretty average list of candidates, obviously no manager is perfect and is always a risk blah blah but it is a difficult decision IMO.

It's not really. What is difficult is that there's no one making a decision. They're running around like headless chickens (puntastic).

Where is The Chairman ? The Board ? Normally they'd sit round a table (ah yes, the famous old Ewood Boardroom table, with plaques of all 92 clubs round the Boardroom, proper) discuss it to death and then come to a decision. If they couldn't the Chair makes the deciding vote. Something like that anyway. Pretty normal, run of the mill democracy. Done in a day.

Now we are run by absolute keanwits. A TV pundit from Malaysia, Captain Confusion, Akorns best mate, Doris Desai and invisible / Whispering Bob Coar. Oh and the two losers from PNE. I mean what chance do we really have of attracting anyone decent? Were they really expecting "the next Mourinho" to knock on the door after displaying their level of stupidity for the last 22 months?

Not only are these clowns incompetent but we also have to pander to their quite blatant various vested interests for three weeks. A veritable pi$$ing contest. Meanwhile, yet again, no one acts in the best interests of Blackburn Rovers Football Club and its supporters.

Run it properly or get out. If Holloway wants it pay the compo and do it. Same with Sherwood. Spin a coin if that helps. Just make a decision you bumbling incompetent idiots. The list may be "mediocre" but even then they won't hang around forever waiting for us.

[Salgado Is A Hero]

I'm not sure about all of that comment about OGS, SIAH.

He was appointed as reserve team manager at Old Trafford and I can't imagine SAF appointing someone "who wouldn't hurt a fly" to a post like that. As a player, he was called "the baby-faced assassin" and I bet he has a fair streak of ruthlessness in him, both on and off the pitch. Just the sort of attitude you need to stand up to our owners and their global adviser.

That's a fair point.....there is the potential problem with younger managers and commanding respect.....I don't think we have the ego's in our team to rival Chelsea but that seemed to be the biggest issue with AVB.

[ABBEY]

Venkys don't give a kean about rovers

[roverandout]

well said bob

[K-Hod]

It's not really. What is difficult is that there's no one making a decision. They're running around like headless chickens (puntastic).

Where is The Chairman ? The Board ? Normally they'd sit round a table (ah yes, the famous old Ewood Boardroom table, with plaques of all 92 clubs round the Boardroom, proper) discuss it to death and then come to a decision. If they couldn't the Chair makes the deciding vote. Something like that anyway. Pretty normal, run of the mill democracy. Done in a day.

Now we are run by absolute keanwits. A TV pundit from Malaysia, Captain Confusion, Akorns best mate, Doris Desai and invisible / Whispering Bob Coar. Oh and the two losers from PNE. I mean what chance do we really have of attracting anyone decent? Were they really expecting "the next Mourinho" to knock on the door after displaying their level of stupidity for the last 22 months?

Not only are these clowns incompetent but we also have to pander to their quite blatant various vested interests for three weeks. A veritable pi$$ing contest. Meanwhile, yet again, no one acts in the best interests of Blackburn Rovers Football Club and its supporters.

Run it properly or get out. If Holloway wants it pay the compo and do it. Same with Sherwood. Spin a coin if that helps. Just make a decision you bumbling incompetent idiots. The list may be "mediocre" but even then they won't hang around forever waiting for us.

+ Infinity. Cracking post.

[my_name_is_Earl]

Nail on the head, we do need an appointment which will lift the fans and players alike, the players need a lift too, they need organisation and direction, Kean didnt do organisation, both Holloway and Sherwood I feel will do that.

Sounds like a coin toss is needed. Hopefully Shaw has a 'Harvey Dent Original' to flip. lol I'm still not sure what you're referring to with regards as to where the power lies though. I can tell your trying to help me but it's been a long day.... lol I know Shaw does have the ear of Mrs. Desai but will it be enough for him to get his man if ultimately Shebby fails with Sherwood?

[roverandout]

i dont understand though earl, why you are reffering to shebby as though he is the head, SURELY desai has the final say, if she listens to shaw then surely we have a good chance of getting holloway

[Rover_Shaun]

But what coin should they spin Bob? And who supplies the coin?

[my_name_is_Earl]

i dont understand though earl, why you are reffering to shebby as though he is the head, SURELY desai has the final say, if she listens to shaw then surely we have a good chance of getting holloway

Shebby has a huge say. From past experience, we all know for any deal to go through, it requires the collective agreement of the whole pack, hence the lack of decisions being made. Kean was marginalised with the portuguese lads and that's where it started turning sour for him, it wasn't in the agreement. Shaw does have Desai's ear but it won't happen because Shebby is totally anti-Holloway and it needs everyone to agree.

This is also why I suggested Karl Robinson may be the man as both Shaw and Shebby agree on him, not as first choice though it must be said. It's all boardroom politics.

[John]

On Robinson, he was linked in the summer pre Singh and Shaw, so presumably he has other support too.

[OJRovers]

Complete shambles as expected from our 'board' and the owners.

[roverandout]

well more fool them, pass up on a fantastic opportunity to appoint a quality manager to go for some second rate paul ince mk 2 just because speccy doesnt like him, what a prick, i hope when it all turns sour all our anger is turned on him, glen can be his corner man

[Rover_Shaun]

Anyone got any actual news other than fanciful guesswork and opinion?

[roverandout]

yes, we won't appoint anyone until christmas 2013