[Archived] Next Manager Part 2

[Roost]

Why am I holding out for a positive result to this fiasco? There isnt a person involved at the club that I trust. There isnt anyone left with a track record of common sense decisions. There isnt anyone thats been honest with the supporters.

We are left with Shebby Singh, Global Advisor, to find us a Manager. Enough said.

[braddock]

You just can't help yourself can you? Do you see yourself as some sort of super fan? Quick to dish out the "idiot" tag - lest we forget you're the guy who supported Kean and had an avatar of Desai ?!

You're right, we are relatively powerless and always have been. What you struggle to comprehend for some reason is that the club is being run incredibly badly. I don't need Millie Clode to tell me that 24 hours a day (although if she wants to nip round...) it's blindingly obvious.

Previously the club has been skint, not enough money for a brew and all that - I can tell you now though that we'd have had a new manager in 2.5 weeks after the other walked out (or 25 days after a press release was nearly released confirming his sacking), there really are no excuses. Are we going to "break" Danny Levy? Is Sherwood going to quit? Are the owners prepared to fly to London and meet Sherwood on the QT? If the answer is "No" then what are they waiting for? Move on to Option B. We need a new manager to get the club going again, we need promotion.

So what is "unbearable for the idiots" is the thought that they are and will make a complete pigs ear of this appointment. After all the longer this goes on the greater potential to mess it up - and let's be honest, they're Wold Champions at making bad decisions. And you find it humourous?

I supported a former manager, yes. He was not, however, good enough. Something which, at the time was underestimated due to the skewed perception one was able to form on the matter given all the surrounding factors which made it difficult to judge to what extent it was his management alone.

As for the avatar, I've had a few. Does the current one offend you? I was merely contributing to the general ethos of the messageboard though without stealth and subtelty. Everyone on here winds everybody else up, generally speaking (though of course not exclusively) with their inane posts, guesses, pretend 'insider knowledge' and general doom and gloom. Mine was simply something people found less tasteful. I was only trying to fit in though, I do apologise.

At which point do I not understand the club is being run badly?

I thought us northerners were known for their dry humour and dark wit? If you cannot see the irony of the mechanics of this messageboard and raise a wry smile for a second then I have great sympathy for you. Aren't you the man who does the monthly sum ups, though?

[bob fleming]

some people complain when Shebby is talking too much to the media and then moan when he doesnt too much. The guy cant win.

Pleased that Shebby isnt talking as much as before and just getting on with the interviewing process. Keeping things private and not revealing any names Rovers have spoken to.

My personal view the new manager will be in place by Sheff Wed Home game.

On this point I have to say I fully agree with him. We've been in a crap situation but this message board (or more likely it's posters) adds fuel to its own anger.

In the interests of balance, Chaddy makes a great point. They are doing what they should have always done - rather than "let things be known" through fan groups. The point being though that it's taking too long and their track record gives us nothing to base any confidence in them that they are about to do the right thing. It certainly isn't humourous though. Maybe you're right, maybe we should all just be good subservient fans and not post what we actually think. Nothing to see here. Move on. All is well.

[braddock]

Maybe you're right, maybe we should all just be good subservient fans and not post what we actually think. Nothing to see here. Move on. All is well.

Though not ideal, if it's a choice between this and having the blind blind the already blind, I know what I would choose. But then this messageboard would cease to be so popular and people wouldn't get the sadistic fix they so obviously crave on top of the plight of the club that is happening within reality, so it's obviously too luch to hope for. The lesser of two evils but an unattainable one. I just wish people were more self aware.

[trueblueroversiloveu]

RE Holloway - in the times when he and Kean were in the same league at the same time, Kean had a better record.

I've not checked it but sams points kept us up tjat season. Kean didn't aquire them and even of he did the squads can't be compared.

[braddock]

I've not checked it but sams points kept us up tjat season. Kean didn't aquire them and even of he did the squads can't be compared.

I'm talking about games played whilst they were both employed at the same time. Blackpool got less points (or the same, I can't remember) than Rovers after Kean came in the season Blackpool went down, and then this season, before Kean went, we had more points again.

Different circumstances but for me it shows that Holloway is certainly nothing special. I mean, Coyle got a lowly team promoted playing pretty football and has suffered relegation and would you have him?

[47er]

Something which, at the time was underestimated due to the skewed perception one was able to form on the matter given all the surrounding factors which made it difficult to judge to what extent it was his management alone.

You're not Sir Humphrey Appleby are you?

[braddock]

Not at all. But I would argue that misinformation and rumours appearing on here often gets into the fans' heads whereby they think something is going to happen. Then it doesn't happen. Because it never was going to happen and there was no truth in it. I do think that plays a part in some angry posts and arguments on here. That's all I'm getting at.

Yup. Doesn't excuse events at the club but then events at the club don't excuse some of the ignorance on this message board.

You're not Sir Humphrey Appleby are you?

No, minister.

[dubdubdub]

RE Holloway - in the times when he and Kean were in the same league at the same time, Kean had a better record.

Kean also had a Premier League squad.

[bob fleming]

You're not Sir Humphrey Appleby are you?

Clearly. You win Braddock. I can't compete with your dark humour and wit.

[EWOODACE1]

Is anybody else getting to the point where you don't care anymore. Supporting rovers has become such a chore these days. Kean went and finally there was some elation and then venkys manage to screw up again and no one knows what the hell is going on

[braddock]

Kean also had a Premier League squad.

But no help around him, a squad that was disembling and therefore had no consistency, he wasn't a manager and had the fans on his back constantly. No excuses that he wasn't good enough, no excuses that he wasn't a (more than) questionable character, but puts Holloways achievements into greater light.

[Stuart]

Is anybody else getting to the point where you don't care anymore. Supporting rovers has become such a chore these days. Kean went and finally there was some elation and then venkys manage to screw up again and no one knows what the hell is going on

Or...

By taking their time people are trying to avoid screwing things up?

Although unlikely, whilst no-one is appointed there is still some hope.

I'm withholding my moans and groans until there is some formal confirmation that Black has got the gig.

The other problem is the lack of matches due to the international break. We traditionally chew ourselves into frustration - especially when it's preceded by a defeat - but without a manager it's completely polarised.

[chris_h]

Is anybody else getting to the point where you don't care anymore. Supporting rovers has become such a chore these days. Kean went and finally there was some elation and then venkys manage to screw up again and no one knows what the hell is going on

I never thought that I wouldn't care about Rovers. I'm a long way from home and therefore a bit detached but still my passion for the club was strong up until probably just into this year.

Now visits to this site make me angry and depressed so it's better that I don't visit often. Likewise, it's a blessing that I cant watch Rovers much since we were relegated as that had the same effect which isn't fair on my family.

I'm now starting not to care any more.

[G Somerset Rover]

Is anybody else getting to the point where you don't care anymore. Supporting rovers has become such a chore these days. Kean went and finally there was some elation and then venkys manage to screw up again and no one knows what the hell is going on

I keep thinking that I don't care, but then I'm off to Derby tomorrow so I obviously do.

I still maintain that if the managerial appointment is an absolute shocker (Ali, Black, Hendry etc.) then I'm done until Venky's have cleared off. It'll be bloody hard but it's not worth the torment.

[Mercer]

Lose tomorrow and Black still in charge for Sheff. Wed., then gate could be back down to 12/13,000ish, maybe even lower.

Perhaps, undeservedly IMV, supporters have given Rovers benefit of the doubt since Kean left, however, EwoodAce1 is spot on, apathy is rapidly setting in again.

Three weeks (four weeks if you include the weekend when they were supposedly going to sack him) is more than enough, to have had your ducks lined-up in a row.

IMO:

• Shebby, Shaw and Agnew have merely confirmed that none of them are fit for purpose.
  
• If speculation is correct, the internal politicking is imbecilic and a betrayal of our great club.
  
• They are way out of their depth and in it for themselves only.
  

[Craigman]

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/id/1193822?&cc=5739

Neville, OGS, Larsson Sherwood all possibilities along with Keane !

[my_name_is_Earl]

http://soccernet.esp...193822?&cc=5739

Neville, OGS, Larsson Sherwood all possibilities along with Keane !

This would not surprise me at all, ESPN are well connected with Shebby. He may as well pick a name out of a hat, aside from the best man for the job of course in Ian Holloway. Utter incompetence.

You'd also question whether any of these actually want the job?

[Mercer]

http://soccernet.esp...193822?&cc=5739

Neville, OGS, Larsson Sherwood all possibilities along with Keane !

IMO, GN, no chance, guy far too intelligent, OGS, was interested but we blew it, Larsson, what the hell has he done, Sherwood, let's face it, he aint coming.

Roy Keane - the joker in the pack ! Wouldn't be my choice but as flagged on here on Wednesday, IMO, seen as a 'compromise candidate'.

[BigBar]

Actually convinced at this stage that no one outside the 3 stooges know whats going on...all the names been thrown about appear to be just to sell papers/keep people interested...raddy antic is the latest to be linked!

Goes to show that the people in charge of makin the call havent a clue! no real concrete links because there in none!! disgraceful!!

[chaddyrovers]

Would Rovers wait a month for OLS to finish his season with Molde then Appoint him?

Can see Rovers doing this waiting for OLS

[my_name_is_Earl]

Actually convinced at this stage that no one outside the 3 stooges know whats going on...all the names been thrown about appear to be just to sell papers/keep people interested...raddy antic is the latest to be linked!

Goes to show that the people in charge of makin the call havent a clue! no real concrete links because there in none!! disgraceful!!

Shebby was so confident in Sherwood, he didn't have a plan B. Derek Shaw had a great plan B, but Shebby knows better....

Would Rovers wait a month for OLS to finish his season with Molde then Appoint him?

Can see Rovers doing this waiting for OLS

In that case, they may as well just write this season off. There's a lot of work to be down with this squad before promotion is even a realistic target.

[broadsword]

Would Rovers wait a month for OLS to finish his season with Molde then Appoint him?

Can see Rovers doing this waiting for OLS

I can't.

If that's who they wanted and he wanted to come, then they would have an agreement in place for him to take over at a certain date. So, no way.

[Mercer]

Would Rovers wait a month for OLS to finish his season with Molde then Appoint him?

Can see Rovers doing this waiting for OLS

Perhaps if we had a capable 'caretaker', but we don't - Black is as clueless as Kean.

If your right and OGS is the plan, and I don't think you are right, then we could do worse than give Tony Parkes a call who I think would jump at it for a few weeks.

[Stand & Deliver]

Would Rovers wait a month for OLS to finish his season with Molde then Appoint him?

Can see Rovers doing this waiting for OLS

It's OGS not OLS. Derp.