[Archived] Next Manager Part 2

[philipl]

If Mrs. D is running the ship again, we can't expect a big name manager as she has never been one to splash the cash, particularly now. That rules out all of the foreign so called 'big names'.

I think If not Sherwood or Holloway, it will be Robinson, Grayson, Davies or others of that ilk. Doubt Black will get it, this does not appease the majority of fans.

OK, would/could Venky's/Shebby/Shaw give any of those names the assurances they would ask for in terms of non-interference and lack of skeletons? A transfer budget of any consequence is unlikely to be on the table. A headcount cull almost certainly is on the table, however.

Black has the "advantage" of being the incumbent.

[my_name_is_Earl]

OK, would/could Venky's/Shebby/Shaw give any of those names the assurances they would ask for in terms of non-interference and lack of skeletons? A transfer budget of any consequence is unlikely to be on the table. A headcount cull almost certainly is on the table, however.

Black has the "advantage" of being the incumbent.

Black and Singh don't see eye to eye at all. Shebby would never allow the Big D to appoint Black. All of the others would jump at the situation i'd imagine without needing big reassurances as they aren't great names, with all due respect, and would happily take on the club with the largest playing squad and wage bill in the league. Any manager worth his salt would want a crack at this, reassurances taken out of the equation of course.

[philipl]

Holloway and Sherwood could both have been at Ewood by now.

Not unknown for people to resign from current employers and then take up new employment.

The blockages thus far have been on their sides.

[John]

Black and Singh don't see eye to eye at all.

This is very true - can't see Black being manager.

[broadsword]

How about singh as manager if Black doesn't want it then?

[True Blue & White]

Shebby would never allow the Big D to appoint Black.

I think you need to look again at the Rover's hierarchy chart.

[Clitherover]

How about singh as manager if Black doesn't want it then?

I'm giving up with football if that ever happens...

[True Blue & White]

Radi Antic has apparently put his hat in the ring....

http://www.clicklancashire.com/sport/blackburn-rovers-fc/1213523-ex-real-madrid-and-barcelona-boss-antic-targets-blackburn-rovers-job.html?

They should appoint him, his surname is easy for the papers to make a pun out of pertaining to Venky's ownership

[RevidgeBlue]

Raddy Antic ?? Ruddy Hell, Randy Antics.. Decent coach in his time. Was a long long time ago

That seems to be a common trait with the managers that seem to have actually applied for the job according to the Press.

Antic, Clemente and several others whose name I can't remember.

Probably ok about 1985.

[philipl]

Those two sentences do not make sense to me. Sentence one states Rijkard applied or hinted at Venky's he wanted the job? Sentence two suggests he wasn't considered because he didn't apply.

When you saw "throw his hat into the ring" what exactly do you mean?

Rijkard was asked to apply (not recently). He applied. He was not considered.

Both Holloway and Sherwood could have had the job by now if they had resigned from their current employment and took what was understood to be the deal without additional pre-conditions. The money Rovers would have had to pay Blackpool and Spurs respectively in the event of them resigning is I understand within Rovers current ability to pay.

That is what I believe to be the factual truth.

[RevidgeBlue]

Rijkard did throw his hat into the ring. However, he could not be considered despite being encouraged to apply...

There's a surprise.

[True Blue & White]

From Rad Antic's Wikipedia page.....

He later admitted joining Celta in such circumstances was a mistake and vowed never to accept coaching jobs in mid-season again.

[bypass06]

Blackburn: An Opportunity for the Right Man … If He Exists

http://blog.footballrascal.com/blackburn-an-opportunity-for-the-right-man-if-he-exists/?

[philipl]

Do you know why he was not considered?

I think it's only fair to give a rough idea of who your source is. In the club? Director level? Ticket office cashier?

There are others who have posted similar information on here whom you could ask this question of as well. It would be unfair of me to reveal my sources (more than one) and giving level would make them too traceable.

[philipl]

In the club? Out the club? Can you not even answer that?

I'm serious - I think any other person would at least give a small hint to the nature of their source to give a little bit of credibility to "facts".

Ask the others who posted about Rijkard.

[chaddyrovers]

My interpretation- Mrs D is running the show again.

I thought and understand that Balaji and Venky Rao have been more involved in Rovers this season. Mrs D had allow her brothers more influence and decision making than before.

Holloway and Sherwood could both have been at Ewood by now.

Not unknown for people to resign from current employers and then take up new employment.

The blockages thus far have been on their sides.

How has KO block Holloway? Its Shebby blocking the deal cos he doesnt want him as manager.

Levy is blocking Sherwood from talking to rovers. I still expect Shebby to keep chasing him until we get him like we did with Rhodes.

Also article in the Daily Mirror today in the paper

'Blackburn are spreading the net in their search for a new manager - with Karl Robinson and Simon Grayson the new names on the list.

Rovers failed to land Tim Sherwood and now managing director Derek Shaw and global advisor Shebby Singh are split over an approach for Blackpool's Ian Holloway.

MK Dons chief Robinson fits the bill for Singh, who wants a younger manager, but some senior staff back Huddersfield boss Grayson'

[philipl]

As I understand it, neither Holloway nor Sherwood are comfortable about committing their futures to Rovers as things stand at the club at present.

My point is there is evidence that Mrs D has returned to the fore after previously giving the brothers a freer hand.

El Tombro, I have given you the facts. You can either accept them or not.

[booth]

Holloway and Sherwood could both have been at Ewood by now.

Not unknown for people to resign from current employers and then take up new employment.

The blockages thus far have been on their sides.

As I've said Holloway is liked by Balaji and that's from the man himself to someone I work closely with (before Keans resignation). So why he hasn't been approached doesn't add up.

So when Kean resigned I expected his name to appear in the press, but instead it was Shebbys choice. Now we hear Shaw wants Olly too, you would think we would have our man.

Unless Balaji doesn't have any say in the matter. Again it doesn't add up that Shebby seems to be holding more sway (which is what Nixon is saying along with a few others on here).

I will believe Olly and TS don't want the job when I see their statements in the press. It's especially unlike IH to not talk to the gazette about such matters if he really is disinterested.

[chaddyrovers]

As I understand it, neither Holloway nor Sherwood are comfortable about committing their futures to Rovers as things stand at the club at present.

My point is there is evidence that Mrs D has returned to the fore after previously giving the brothers a freer hand.

El Tombro, I have given you the facts. You can either accept them or not.

what evidence is there that Mrs D is back in charge?

why are Holloway and Sherwood not comfortable?

Sherwood is reserve team coach who Head Coach AVB doesnt like and block him getting the DoF job there. Why stay there????

[G Somerset Rover]

Evertything has just gone so silent...

I see on Twitter that Glen doesn't even want to talk any further about the managerial situation. Tells me that we're absolutely miles off from an appoinment as usually he is forthcoming when there is news.

[Mercer]

It's quite amusing when individual posters get badgered for details of their source as Philipl seems to be getting at the moment.

On the serious side, it could compromise the position of third parties and for no rational reason other than to try and satisfy a 'doubting Thomas' on this MB.

I think it's a simple choice, you either accept in good faith what the likes of Philipl bring to this MB or you choose to disregard it. It's not difficult.

[Andy]

I think the only thing we can be certain on is that nobody outside of the Raos and Singh actually knows what's going on.

Some people may think they have snippets of information, but I honestly believe that they have kept (and are keeping) this process extremely discreet - which is, of course, the right way to do it.

Ultimately, if we get the right man at the end of the process, then I don't care how long it's taken.

[Ste B]

Evertything has just gone so silent...

I see on Twitter that Glen doesn't even want to talk any further about the managerial situation. Tells me that we're absolutely miles off from an appoinment as usually he is forthcoming when there is news.

To be fair he's had some stick for trying to talk about it. I can understand why he's keeping quiet.

[philipl]

In other words, just believe any old sh*t because it shines Venky's in bad light.

If you'd read what philipl has put in his last few posts he doesn't even seem to know whether he's stating fact or rumour himself. The Rijkaard "fact" came from other posters. Honestly, Mercer - do a simple search in this thread and tell me what you get. Nothing is the answer.

All I'm asking for is for him to not state things as fact when they're clearly not. Is that "badgering"?

OK you called me out on use of English in believing something to be the factual truth.

For what it is worth I will call you out in misrepresenting what I have said. I have more than one source on Rijkard and they are not taken from comments on this MB. In addition other posters have written about him.

On another point, yes I can back up the comment that Balaji favours Holloway. Which strengthens my point about who is back calling the big shots and that (possibly as a consequence?) Holloway has been unable to get to a yes on terms he would be comfortable with. I believe negotiations/talks/communications/third party meetings continue so Ollie might yet appear at Ewood but I don't think it is getting any closer at the moment.

[Mercer]

Oh dear, hope that this is sadly wrong:

Simon Fish‏@SimonJohnFish

Hearing rumours that Billy McKinlay has the Rovers job. Anyone else heard this? #brfc

IMO, not the type of person Rovers need - I thought he was a disgrace in his last 12 months with Rovers.