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[Archived] New Manager Part 3

Kamy100

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with the names being mentioned, i cant help but feel dissapointed. I hope Berg proves me wrong, but as mentioned and as shebby alluded to, he was pleasently surprised by the names who had applied and then we end up with a unemployed Berg, who has had a rather mediocre managerial carrer, in a somewhat poor league.

I dont get the infatuation with the idea, about hiring a former player as our manager. Being a former player at our club, should be far down the list of reasons for hiring. In the grand scheme of things, it should only matter if 2 candidates were close te even. Imo there were lots of candidates better then berg, but if its going to be him, he´ll get a chance

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yes berg was courted by another club...bury!!! i dont care if people slate me, i never said i wouldnt back him but the fact remains hes a desperate appointment by a desperate lowlife who is looking at every ex-rover with some coaching/managerial experience thinking that will placate the rovers faithful while he pulls the strings in the background, other clubs around us have made solid appointments, we have gone for the last resort, good luck to berg but i cant see him being up to the job, really dont know what qualities he would bring that someone like black doesnt already have and i dont want black either, i say again after this, and it was their last chance saloon in my opinion, venkys out, singh out

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My apologies DMTP. I get a little irritated when someone who stops going because they hate what's happening to our club, is considered not a true fan.

Apology accepted - I suppose my comment was a bit general. As you say there are some fans who have followed for years that feel they can no longer attend because of the Venky's.

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For me there were only 3 options: Alex Ferguson, Mourinho and Guardiola. :rolleyes:

Some people in here wouldn't want Mourinho because there are already too many portuguese people in the team, they wouldn't want Guardiola because he has no experience in England... :rolleyes:

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This appointment will end nasty. He's already slated venkys once and when he doesn't get his own way either with venkys or mr pig crap, then he will be off, Berg won't take any kean.

Also why the heck does it make any difference if he was an ex player or not. Player - Manager, two tottaly different roles. May as well just get Sebastian Perez in for the crack, seen as he is an ex player.

But under the circumstances, having someone who completely understands the club can not be overlooked. We saw with Allardyce that even good results won't make Ewood a happy place if people don't like the manager. I'm pretty sure nobody will have a personal problem with Berg.

A question for the Norwegians that know more about him:

Did he make any really successful signings in the past? Unearthed any gems that went on to bigger and better things?

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Best defender ever to grace Ewood ! Are you for real ? How long have you been going ? Have you never heard of Mike England or Keith Newton to name just two ?

As for Berg taking over as manager it's a joke. If he hadn't played for Rovers he wouldn't have got within a million miles of the job. Totally senseless, illogical , poorly thought out decision. The Club has become a laughing stock

Heard of or seen Tyrone? Am i supposed to apologise for the year i was born? Get over yourself.

Berg was top class as a player. Really top drawer. Ferguson doesn't just take any old mug. Even when he came back home he was still very good value. He looked after himself and was a clean living man. If i had been given the opportunity to pick a list of potential managers, in preferable order, Berg would be some way down my list. But he was an honest pro and he'll be an honest manager. If all i am left with is that, i'll cling to it and hope for the best. Snipe all you like, but the consequences of Berg or anyother coming in and failing is beyond comprehension.

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In hennings bergs first season at lyn they finished 3rd. his team got a wrong penalty against them in their second last game of the season. If that had not happened they would probably have won the league that season. To put that achievement in perspective. Lyn to finish third in tippeligaen is equivalent to finish third with a club like Sunderland budget wise. No one really expected him to top that table position with the economy they had. The gap up to the big spenders was just too big. The following season they finished 7th, 9th and 7th, which were decent, the season after he left lyn got relegated and then they went bankrupt.

He was signed to take over lillestrøm after the 2008 season but due to them being only 3 points over relegation zone he started his jobs two games before the season ended. In his first game in charge they beat Rosenborg (which won the league by clear margin that season) and secured top flight football.

When he took over Lillestrøm they had the oldest squad in the league, and alot of high earners. He had to clean up their entire squad and in his first season everyone expected them to struggle which they did. The other seasons they were predicted to be higher up, and he had lillestrøm around 5th 6th place until the summer window which due to economic recession in the Norwegian league between 2008-2011 he had to sell his most talented youngsters.

So to sum up he has managed a midget budget wise and had decent success with them, then he managed a sleeping giant from the 80s which were and are in complete in turmoil.

In terms of formation he usually sets his teams up either in 4-4-2 or in 4-4-1-1. He likes to have players with a lot of pace, especially on the wings and the wingers he has used tend to be good to challenge 1on1 (so I guess he has some shopping to do in January). His teams have been rather solid and organized defensively. He is a die hard fan of zonal marking. He plays an attractive possession oriented style with a lot of short passes and mostly passes on the ground. He has also liked to play with two holding midfielders. I think he is very inspired by arsenal and arsene wenger when it comes to playing style and transfers.

In my opinion he was very unfairly treated at Lillestrøm. He did all their dirty laundry, brought in young players and got rid of high earners and when they finally got stable economy they sacked him. The sacking was also a farce. Basically he had the boards support, but then an extern investor contacted the board and said “I will invest xx millions but only if you sack Henning”. So they went for the fast option. Lillestrøm is now a Norwegian QPR version. They have signed 18 new players this season (many of them Norwegian internationals who didn’t play for their foreign clubs) but this has not materialized and they are basically at status quo in terms of league position and their attendance are plummeting.

His ex assistant managers will probably not join him. His first assistant manager is assistant manager at Aalesund and the other one just got relegated as manager for Stabæk after failing to get the job at Lillestrøm. I think he would want to bring his own staff in, and then he will bring people who share the same football philosophy as himself and people he can work with. Maybe he can work with black and Hendry, but if not I think he will get other people in.

I’m obviously a big fan of Henning Berg as I suggested him over 5 weeks ago when he wasn’t even remotely linked with us. I don’t agree with someone saying “5 weeks and we end up with henning berg, what a disaster.” The reason for this is if this had been a quick appointment I don’t think he would even be considered by Shebby and Shaw. If he gets the job I think he will have impressed them with what he has presented to them and they think he is the right choice. I hope shabby and shaw have done a thorough job in talking with potential managers but of course I don’t know if this is correct.

I will now list up a couple of points why I think henning Berg would be a good choice. Someone on here has also said "he can't even get a job in norway, why would we want to sign him". im pretty sure he has been offered different jobs in norway during the past year but he has made a choice not to take any job. Instead he has worked as a pundit for tippeligaen and premier league, and he has also made a couple of trips to manchester to talk to fergie and fill up on his knowledge.

1. he plays attractive and entertaining football and his teams seem to be well organized.

2. He is very transparent when it comes to fans. When in charge at lyn (during a period they did very well) he invited the fans to a discussion on playing style and what he was going to do. he also have met angry Lillestrøm fans to hear what they say, what their opinions were and he also answered their questions.

3. He will not let himself be pushed around. He will demand alot from his players, and will not accept that they sign any player without him giving the thumbs up.

4. He has openly said that he thinks venky should try to get John Willams back, which he highly regards. We can only hope.... He also knows this club, its history etc

5. Theoreticly he is very bright. He knows his football.

6. He has showed a keen eye when it comes to signing talents and unshaped diamonds and turning them into great players. Of course this will be harder to do at a higher level but at least he has shown it at a lower level. A small club like Blackburn need to have someone who can spot talents as we cant compete with the bigger clubs on transfers and wages.

7. He knows british football. Won the league with two different clubs, promoted with rovers aswell. Worked under managers like Kenny, sir alex and souness. He surely must have picked up alot.

8. Arte et labore. That is henning berg's career summed up. He was never a child star with immense talent, but due to his hard work he managed to play at the top level with blackburn rovers and manchester united. Also his manager career shows this. He has done immense work with very little resources in both his club.

9. As a pundit he has done very good analyzis, and when analyzing rovers problems in their defense last season he was spot on.

10. I want him to succeed and i think he would succeed.

on the negative side:

1. we dont know if he will succeed here.

2. He has been critized by fans and board in norway for being to negative in the media (blaming referee decisions, weather, performance etc). I think this would actually be a nice change from alwayspositive lying steve kean.

3. he has had some players openly critizing him in the media, complaining about not playing in their favourite position etc. This have mostly been from african players so maybe its a cultural thing.

edit: added some open spaces to make it more easy to read. wrote it in word while offline and copied it over so didnt see it was comprimied

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Another evening, another name apparently given the role. I'll wait until something is announced before I get drawn into more rumours.

One thing is for sure, over the course of the last 5 weeks, twitter, betting odds and Nixon aren't reliable sources of info.

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Not Kevin Moran, bloody hell Dick Mulvany was better!

Moran was immense. Absolutely fantastic for us. Dalgleish tried to persuade him to stay on for yet another season and he was no bad judge was he?

That is absolutely the worst post I have ever read. Congratulations.

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Bolton get Freedman. Burney get Dyche. Ipswich get McCarthy. Rovers get Henning Berg.

The only manager that doesn't have any Championship experience? Ours. Obviously.

Take a bow Venky's, you've done it again.

Most fans would have taken OGS without any championship experience. What has OGS got that Berg hasn't ?(apart from a baby face).

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Heard of or seen Tyrone? Am i supposed to apologise for the year i was born? Get over yourself.

Berg was top class as a player. Really top drawer. Ferguson doesn't just take any old mug. Even when he came back home he was still very good value. He looked after himself and was a clean living man. If i had been given the opportunity to pick a list of potential managers, in preferable order, Berg would be some way down my list. But he was an honest pro and he'll be an honest manager. If all i am left with is that, i'll cling to it and hope for the best. Snipe all you like, but the consequences of Berg or anyother coming in and failing is beyond comprehension.

Mikel?

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