[Archived] New Manager Part 3

[USABlue]

I'd describe myself as intrigued rather than over the moon at Berg's potential appointment.

I've always considered Berg to be an intelligent and studious sort of guy so I can't see any reason why it shouldn't work if he's allowed to get on with it and he must be allowed to appoint his own backroom staff. No keeping Black on or hangers on from the Kean regime.

Neither does Berg suffer fools gladly as we saw from his famous touchline row with Souness when the latter had got his tactics badly wrong. So it could work.

Could have been better, could have been a lot worse. And has the huge advantage of being neither Kean nor Black. It would do for me.

I am not so intrigued Rev, I feel we can and should do better. I agree with your points about being studious and all but he comes across a bit flat to me, not much of a motivator if you ask me. I remember the row with Souness, if I recall you could read his lips while he was on the pitch something like "it's not working" to which he was rather speedily subbed. If memory serves. Anyway seems like he ticks Shebby's boxes and that in itself is worriesome. Also he is the last, or close to it, to be interviewd. Desperation appointment to me. An ex Rover wow well that will bring them flocking back just where the Kean did this plonker come up with that ex player notion. More so ludicrous is how has he managed not stick with it.

[RevidgeBlue]

I am not so intrigued Rev, I feel we can and should do better. I agree with your points about being studious and all but he comes across a bit flat to me, not much of a motivator if you ask me. I remember the row with Souness, if I recall you could read his lips while he was on the pitch something like "it's not working" to which he was rather speedily subbed. If memory serves. Anyway seems like he ticks Shebby's boxes and that in itself is worriesome. Also he is the last, or close to it, to be interviewd. Desperation appointment to me. An ex Rover wow well that will bring them flocking back just where the Kean did this plonker come up with that ex player notion. More so ludicrous is how has he managed not stick with it.

Well before you reach for the revolver USA, the only "confirmation" so far is an article from Nixon that Berg has been decided upon and will be appointed forthwith. Plus Redknapp's representatives apparently turned the gig down and so a lot of people therefore seem to be assuming HB is a shoe in because Holloway wouldn't work with SS and vice versa.

Cryer and Kamy still seem to think we are down to a shortlist of 2 so someone has it badly wrong.

[RevidgeBlue]

Hoddle would be as bad as Curbishley - both yesterday's men and out of football for years.

I'm amazed you can put Curbishley in that category jim whilst promoting the claims of McCarthy as your number one choice.

They're both extremely similar to me, the proverbial "safe pair of hands." Personally I'd describe both of them as a bit long in the tooth and very much yesteryear's men.

However you see one as the answer and the other as an old dinosaur!

[USABlue]

Thanks for your concern Rev but I don't own a revolver, it's a Ruger 45 Semi Auto. Breathing a bit easier now you said it came form Nicko, I would support Berg just leaves me feeling a bit deflated if it is him. I mean 5 weeks, all the names bandied around and we pick almost the last guy and a rather uninspiring one at that..

[RevidgeBlue]

oops double post whilst trying to edit.

[RevidgeBlue]

Thanks for your concern Rev but I don't own a revolver, it's a Ruger 45 Semi Auto. Breathing a bit easier now you said it came form Nicko, I would support Berg just leaves me feeling a bit deflated if it is him. I mean 5 weeks, all the names bandied around and we pick almost the last guy and a rather uninspiring one at that..

Did I ever tell you I think you're an extremely nice chap and I agree with everything you've ever said on this m/b.!

[Eddie]

Berg is an interesting appointment and it could prove to be a very good one, but it's a complete mess if it took us five weeks to appoint a manager who used to play for the club and who is currently unemployed.

[Glenn]

For those that don't have the time to keep up with big fast moving threads, check out the best of the BRFCS forums blog linked on the front page of the site. It's essentially any important or high quality stand alone posts that I or the othe backroomers/CMs spot.

As for Mercerman not wanting to read Puffsans excellent post, it's a sad indication of how the Internet as a whole and this forums specifically have changed over the years. It seems people now lack the mental strength to read and digest long articles and prefer instead 140 character chunks, much like max head rooms blipverts. Well I for one don't like it, which is why I want to use the blog to promote better posts.

Sorry for the rant, but somebody just out the idea in my head that the other name might be Hoddle, how I despise as a person more than I did Kean as a manager

[Brfcrule1]

MM wrote:Where's Kamy when you need him ?

I think he is probably celebrating his birthday with his family

I do hope Henning Berg does now get the job after reading that critical article on venkys from Berg makes me feel slightly easier he will take no BS from Venkys and judging by Puffsan's report he seems like a good manager managed clubs in difficult circumstances and those clubs have only gone downhill AFTER he has left and he will get my full support.

However there is no way on earth I could support someone like that ginger fool like McCleish and relegated Brum twice? would be expecting a massive budget and from such a massive budget his buys have generally been ordinary I mean N'Zogbia-9.5M, Zigic-sev. million, to name but a few.

I do believe looking at all the bits Redknapp was never intending to come here he was obviously using us to get a prem club to sack their manager for him to take over I also think it shows a total lack of respect for him to send his agent and for him not to be present I also feel even if he had come here he would have been waiting before jan for someone to lose their job in the EPL before wanting to jump ship.

Rev not that I am doubting you in any way afgter the damage caused by JA & SEM it would take one hell person to screw up worse than them I mean surely stretford would not be as daft to promote his son to a pro EPL Club and pronounce him to be the next "Smalling" that really takes some beating! lol!

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[USABlue]

No guesses as to who Nicko is referring to:

Alan Nixon‏@reluctantnicko

@mozrover Mrs D gave approval on the appointment of a manager TWO WEEKS ago. We are still waiting on agreement between Singh and Shaw on him

If that is true it is incompetence of the highest order. Why do Vekys continue to keep useless people in their employ?

[steverovers]

For those that don't have the time to keep up with big fast moving threads, check out the best of the BRFCS forums blog linked on the front page of the site. It's essentially any important or high quality stand alone posts that I or the othe backroomers/CMs spot.

As for Mercerman not wanting to read Puffsans excellent post, it's a sad indication of how the Internet as a whole and this forums specifically have changed over the years. It seems people now lack the mental strength to read and digest long articles and prefer instead 140 character chunks, much like max head rooms blipverts. Well I for one don't like it, which is why I want to use the blog to promote better posts.

Sorry for the rant, but somebody just out the idea in my head that the other name might be Hoddle, how I despise as a person more than I did Kean as a manager

Mercerman proceeded to say he doesn't read posts more than 5 lines long. Puffsans responded with a 6 line post and Mercerman replied to what was said in the last line of it!!

[USABlue]

Idf it counts, Nicko thinks Berg would be a stupid move.

I do. I need someone with passion for this club. Not just a mercenary. Its about time we get something to be proud of again!

Berg it is then.

[USABlue]

Did I ever tell you I think you're an extremely nice chap and I agree with everything you've ever said on this m/b.!

Funny that. Pass it on to Shebby LOL, IT"S A JOKE BEFORE PEOPLE COME UNGLUED

[Mr. E]

On 27 October 2011, after gaining only a single point in 8 matches, Berg was sacked from Lillestrøm.

[RoverScot]

A quick look at the Lillestrom 2011 season:

Before that run of defeats, Lillestrom had won 6 from 8 in the previous 8 matches and were 4th in the league. Around the time their form slumped(in the middle of the transfer window) they sold their striker who had scored 14 in 13 games, an attacking midfielder who had scored 8 in 17 and a Norwegian International midfielder. Don't think they were replaced either.

More tweets regarding mystery candidate number 2(Yes, it is like a very bad version of Blind Date):

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC

Blackburn likely to appoint Henning Berg as manager in next 48 hours but there is 1 other candidate who could yet have a say.

Ben Smith ‏@BenSmithBBC

And no, it's not Diego Maradona.

[Kelbo]

Well, after waking unable to breath due to man flu and a blocked nose, came on here to see if the mad woman in Pune had decided on the new manager, no doubt she will have slept on it and a decision will be made in the next few weeks as they are all confused!

As I have continually said on here, whoever is chosen, there can be no gaurantees, promotion this season will either happen or it wont, some managers will have a much quicker impact than others on the teams performance, there is one thing for certain, Shebbys role model of a long term tenure as manager will not happen.

It is often said, a manager never sees the fruits of his labour for one reason or another, if he is successful at a club like Rovers, he will move on to a bigger club, if he is not, he will be sacked (unless he's called Kean) but if you build through youth, you never see what you have nurtured for the reasons given above.

So it appears as though its betweeen Berg and Holloway, without question, Holloway would be much more of an impact manager than Berg and would more than likely lift the supporters in the short term, whether he can do this continually is open to question, we dont know.

Whichever manager is chosen, I feel sure they wont allow Shebby Singh to overule him on selection or transfer matters, I feel sure both these candidates will be very strong on those points, Holloway for being what he is and Berg for his comments on Rovers recently.

The biggest difference for me would be that Berg will be more likely to nurture youth than Ollie, yet at the end of the day, its a results driven business and whoever it is, will have to deliver!

[clint]

According to this article http://www.tv2.no/sport/fotball/england/championship/henning-berg-tilbudt-blacburnjobben-3913159.html Henning has been offered the job. This is the channel were he is pundit, so I guess they they have talked to him...

[alexanders]

Thats correct clint.

His pundit colleauge just tweeted a goodbye and believes Berg Will be named manager around lunchtime.

[Gav]

Going on 5wks to appoint an out of work Manager?? I'm surprised they didn't just give it to Black, then again maybe Bergs even cheaper than Black!

Pathetic Singh if true, I'll support the appointment because that's what we do as fans, but Singh is a joke, people will now be clear on that point I hope.

[JAL]

After reading Puffsan excellent post Henning it has to be for me.

[Gav]

Whichever manager is chosen, I feel sure they wont allow Shebby Singh to overule him on selection or transfer matters, I feel sure both these candidates will be very strong on those points, Holloway for being what he is and Berg for his comments on Rovers recently.

I'm not sure about that Kelbo, look at that clown Singh, called for Keans head many times whilst on ESPN, get him on the payroll and "we must support and give him time"

Funny how people change when their palms are laced with silver....

[Blue n White Rover]

Singh set himself a stupid deadline last week and gave into pressure. His ignorance towards Holloway is a joke. 5 weeks to appoint a manager and he still manages to eff it up. Idiot.

[Boltinho]

Would welcome Berg. Happy with him getting the job.

[Paul]

Funny how people change when their palms are laced with silver....

Only question in my mind if Henning Berg is appointed would be this:

"Given your remarks in June that Rovers would find it very difficult to win promotion what changes have you seen at the club to suggest these issues have been addressed?"

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/blackburn-rovers-will-struggle-under-venkys-894597

For me nothing has changed but clearly we have undergone a transformation.