[Archived] New Manager Part 3

[Stuart]

This morning's LT reports that Harry Redknapp is interested in Rovers job, but currently unlikely that he would get the job.

:lol:

That's a joke, right? Like the Flitcroft one but... different.

[RoverScot]

:lol:

That's a joke, right? Like the Flitcroft one but... different.

Doesn't meet the criteria. Young British Mourinho is whats wanted, not one of these 'old heads.' Also, he suffered relegation with Southampton in 2005 so he is damaged goods as far as Shebby is concerned.

Garry Flitcroft has never been relegated and beat Kirkham and Wesham.

[gumboots]

At the moment it feels like camus's version of Pandora's box - just when you think all the horrors have come out there in the bottom lies one beautiful thing that is actually the worst horror of all. I know Redknapp is a good manager and I should be desperate for him to manage us but i don't see how the circus he brings with him is what we need at this moment. He'd want money to spend too and we appear to have none. Not best fit as far as I can see. Not saying I wouldn't get behind the appointment wre it to happen but I could very definitely see it all ending in tears with even worse consequences than we've suffered so far.

[callumrovers]

Why are we doing the interviewing all over again?

What a joke.

If Harry Redknapp wants the job then it should be his, defo best manager to be 'interested'

[Jordan]

I would rather Black than Flitcroft.

That's not saying much though

Just wondering whether this us the response they were hoping for before appointing black as manager!

[Lurid Coat]

If Redknapp wants the job and is not even given an interview, it is quite frankly a major disgrace. So, Shebby, you prefer a young, inexperienced coach, one that you can mould into the next Mourinho? Too bad neither you nor the rest of the effin idiots running our club are capable of moulding sh**! It really should be the no-brainer of a lifetime - get Harry in and promise him a huge promotion bonus. If Harry isn't even approached, it should be obvious that they just want another yes-man, and I'll be fuming.

Edit: The above is based on the presumption that we can actually afford him.

[Cocker]

Its becoming more obvious that they will not appoint a manager like Redknapp or Schuster because that sort of manager wont be given orders or told what to do - and that's not what they want.

The hardest decision shouldn't be who should be on the list but who out of those available (like the above) should they hand it to.

Dont get me wrong I like Flitty but I don't want someone learning with us to be honest. I can't get over to watch the Rovers as often as I would like due to the cost (a long weekend I am looking at nearly a grand for me and the mrs) but when I come I want that feeling of 'We might win today'. All I have felt in a long time is 'We will be lucky to get a draw today'.

You appoint Harry Redknapp and the good feeling before every game comes back - end of story.

[bob fleming]

Harry + Venkys = financial meltdown

There you go.

[trueblueroversiloveu]

People on this messageboard need to get a grip. Harry redkmapp is a class act. We are little blackburn rovers in the championship ffs and yet people would still moan. If he's interested give him the job with a basic salary and a massive bonusfor promotion. The fans would be back in their droves and the players he could attract even on loan would be amazing.

[Paul]

48 hours ago on a Blackpool message board a guy posts his Man Utd ST holder mate has seen Shebby walk in the main entrance at Bloomfield Road. "Hello Mr Oyston I've just popped in to have a word with Ian to see if he's free for Wednesday night. Is that OK with you?" Proof Holloway is coming to Ewood!

Garry Flitcroft drops in to Ewood to watch the match as Chorley don't have a game. The book, courtesy of Iain Dowie, on Flitty is closed, ergo Flitty, Jansen and Short are coming to Ewood.

Redknapp returns from holiday..............................

preston blue spots Ozz, bob fleming, Paul and EwoodDawn in the clubhouse at Chorley - "Have you heard Paul, bob, Dawn and Ozz have packed it in and started going to Victory Park?"

Get a grip people...............................

[gumboots]

Would fans be back in their droves - I don't know? I wouldn't moan if he got the job, but is he really the right appointment for us in terms of finances? Again I don't know. He seems to have left a lot of places worse off than when he arrived and you know we'd be even more of a stepping stone for him than anyone else because he knows and others know that he has what it takes to manage at the top level - he wouldn't be a gamble for the next premier league club that wants him

[Sparky Marky]

Should be biting Harry's hand off, can't believe they would dismiss him

Only if Mullan agrees it....

[Gav]

If people was running around stating that you are trying to stop every appointment so someone else gets the job of your choice then I think you would also blow your top, especially as it has zero truth to it. One guy says something, othesr catch on and before you know it people are believing it.

I'm only human after all and when lies are spread I do have a right to clear them up

I've been a strong backer of you over past 12 months Glen, mainly due to the protests and anti-Kean stance, I think you did a great job and received unfair critisizm for your efforts.

But in hindsight I think you should have taken a backseat once Kean was sacked, people seem to now view you as liking the spotlight more than actually doing any good and that's a pity. The chats with Singh and the name dropping is rubbing many up the wrong way and sadly is turning more and more people off.

If it was me I'd dissapear from the spotlight for a while, but that's your call not mine.

As for Flitcroft becoming next manager, even Singh can't be that stupid can he??

[Paul]

Many, many years ago when sat in the Family Stand Terry Venables wandered in and sat down next to me. I remember being a bit dumbstruck, he never did make it as our manager...............this is actually true, I have a son who can back it up.

[chaddyrovers]

Alan Nixon has linked us with Alex McLeish, Owen Coyle and Ian Holloway today in the Daily Mirror.

McLeish is decent but plays long ball football.

[Emge]

Harry???? Sign him up Shebby, and I will book a flight to Manchester straight away and attend my first game of the season!!

[Ricky]

Glen Said

"If thats the case then why is everybody debating about it? Or indeed saying what they will do if its the wrong appointment?"

Surely you are putting yourself in this category as you have been guilty of doing the same. Not only did you tell Shebby what you would do if the appointment was wrong but you made a statement on behalf of your 8000 members saying they would go into meltdown if it was wrong.

I haven't criticised you on here about the Flitcroft links, look back and you'll see I defended you on this one. You asked on twitter what the feeling would be if Flitty was appointed some time ago as you have asked similar about others. There was nothing in it in my opinion.

Now back to the question in hand. If Redknapp is interested surely he needs to be considered. Shebby is a spurs fan as well. He'll be fully aware of how Harry turned that team around. Just give him the bloody job.

[Roost]

Well I have seen it all now, we get blasted for issueing a press release on behalf of our members regarding Rovers appointing a coach rather than a manager, and I can tell you 100% McKinlay was going to be appointed, then Flitcroft goes to watch the match as he does all the time when Chorley aint playing and then we get blasted as if we had suggested him as manager.

Quite laughable really.

I tweeted out on the day of the Charlton Match regarding Flitcroft as it was in the Chorley Guardian. I asked Gaz if there was any truth in it and he told me he had held informal discussions with people at the club. He has heard nothing since.

So my understanding reading half of these post on here, is we issued a press release which we got slated for and then everyone comes on and complains at any other name linked. Guess what guys , the appointing committee aint reading this board and your words wont be hitting home. This is why we issued a press release to ensure Rovers didnt drop an almighty one..

Seems if we do something ,its wrong, but everyone else can say/do and act how they want??

As we have told you a million times the Action Group have put NO names forward as the new Manager, I'm aware of many who are interested and many who have been spoken to by the club however any appointment I do not want on my conscence hence I have never named one.

This all boils down to Kamy's Podcast were he insinuated we had put Flitcrofts name in the ring, which was proceeded with him telling Shebby to listen to no-one. Well he got his wish because Shebby has spent the last four weeks ignoring the supporters and anyone else.

I suppose if I gave you other names like Shearer too, in which I have personally spoken to his camp, that he also can go on the BLACK LIST?

Or perhaps the Holloway camp? Shall we stick him on the Blacklist too?

I really think some people need to grow up and stop spinning completer and utter rubbish because it is just not helping the situation and is making things a million times worst!!!

Not laughable at all actually.

You now come across as a person becoming obsessed with being involved in the machinations of the club.

The name dropping is embarrassing. The ten hour calls make people cringe.

Gone are the days of yellow and black.

Gone are the days of supporting Chorley with your yellow and black banners.

Gone are the days of wanting Venkys out.

It really is time for you to retrace your steps and remember why you started this whole thing, because aims and actions now differ greatly.

[Gav]

Why are people so much keener on Sherwood than McKinlay though?

Both of them are far too inexperienced to be taking on the role at such a crucial time, surely?

Couldn't agree more, they're no different in my book either from a managerial perspective.

[Speedie Dived]

You informed Shebby that McKinlay would be a disaster, which I believe (and I think a significant majority) agree with.

But you went further a lumped Sherwood in with McKinlay. That was a bridge too far as I (and I think a significant majority) would accept him.

All in all, I believe, based on public comments:

1. BRAG communicates with Shebby about managerial appointments.

2. BRAG claims that it does so only to warn Shebby off.

3. At least in the case of Sherwood, BRAG misstated the bulk of supporter opinion.

4. You previously floated Flitcroft as manager for reasons I'm unsure of.

Like it or not Glen, you've put yourself in the position of being a public figure. The earlier reaction here was not unreasonable, all things considered. You're past the point of being justified in getting bent out of shape for real and imagined slights. You're now the chairman for 8,000 supporters and need to start acting like it, which means that fair and unfair barbs will be hurled your way on issues BRAG interjects itself into, such as the managerial appointment. You need to stay cool, keep it simple and tell the truth. If not, then BRAG and you will have even bigger problems in the future.

Thanks for the work that BRAG and you have done. I suggest you step back and adopt a measure twice and cut once attitude when it comes to further interventions.

A well balanced, calm and measured post highlighting people's concerns.

Why are people so much keener on Sherwood than McKinlay though?

Both of them are far too inexperienced to be taking on the role at such a crucial time, surely?

Maybe Glen did misrepresent some of the views of the fans.

I'm just speaking for myself here, but if that statement moved Shebby away from the inexperienced likes of Sherwood and Shearer and more towards more experienced heads then I will be mighty relieved he did so.

So you don't want an inexperienced manager? I never would have guessed.

[koi]

Not saying I want Garry, I think it's too big a jump but I just don't get the vitriol just because he's chosen to manage in the non-league (and made a dam good job of it).

[Ricky]

Has he made a dam good job if it though??

Based on the players he's had and the budget he's had what sort of job has he done?

I honestly don't know much about Chorley but has he made a huge impression there.

[Parsonblue]

Going back to this - "Yes I know!" I've got the book as well and checked it later.

You know what, I've met Mike Jackman at reserve games in the last couple of years or so and he's an extremely nice and knowledgeable bloke and I've no reason to believe he would be wrong.

BUT .........the more I think about it the less I can remember welcoming Gordon Lee in the January of that season.

I've still got it in my head that Richard Dinnis was our caretaker manager for the best part of a season at some point - certainly not just December 73 to January 1974.

I remember vaguely the odd game from that season. I remember going to Halifax away on a sunny Easter. I also recall attending the final home game against Wrexham which attracted our lowest ever League gate (3520 according to the book) and I could have sworn blind Gordon Lee wasn't in charge at that stage.

Does anyone have a programme from the latter half of that season 73/4? To confirm whether I am right or have lost my marbles completely?

Edit: Just noticed the book says Furphy resigned on 7/12/74 and Lee took over on 16/01/74. So at the very least there's a misprint. Was it meant to read 07/12/73 for Furphy resigning? That sounds about right, but I still think the bit on Lee's wrong.

The Evening Telegraph have Lee joining us on 16 January 1974 and I still have programmes for that season. I remember it well Rev as I was away as a student in those days and travelled back to Blackburn for games at the weekend and it had got to the point were I was so disappointed with Lee's initial results that I had contemplated stopping doing so. It didn't help that some of my fellow students were from the Potteries and thought it highly amusing that we had nicked their manager only to see him fail. Mind you I had the last laugh the following season!!!

[Roberto Policano]

If that story is right you would be insane not to get Harry.

Flitcroft would be just as bad as Kean,Guy has no experience.Surely you will learn from your mistakes.

[bob fleming]

Hmmmm. Harry Redknapp ex manager of Spurs, Portsmouth, Southampton and West Ham, a wealth of experience, would unite the fans and players, a whisker away from being appointed England Manager - or Garry Flitcroft, ex Rovers player, getting a good managerial grounding at Chorley and before that Leigh RMI.

This could go either way. Just be thankful that we have proper people in place to make sensible decisions.

Honestly, I can't keep up with all this, it's gettng harder and harder to know which manager to lay off on Betfair.